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HIV like disease spreading rapidly across China

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In a small hotel across from the Beijing Center for Disease Control and Prevention, a reporter from New Express Daily, dressed in an isolation suit, interviewed a dozen “unusual” patients from different areas of China. Their symptoms are painful and debilitating, and AIDS-like, but repeated tests for HIV have come up negative.
Lin Jun, one of the patients interviewed in the March 24 New Express Daily report, said he used to be chubby, but now he is skin and bones, and his joints have become all deformed.
Lin is referred to in the group as “big brother” for his kindness and giving fellow patients hope when they feel hopeless, with some having considered suicide.
In 2008 Lin’s mother received a blood transfusion at a hospital. Afterwords, she experienced frequent night sweats, numb limbs, aches all over, creaking joints, rashes on her hands, and weight loss.
In May of that year, Lin accidentally became infected through contact with his mother’s blood. Fourteen days later, he fell ill with swollen lymph nodes on his neck, sore knees that made clicking sounds, and pain all over his body. He also started vomiting after every meal, and the left side of his face swelled up. In half a year, his weight dropped from 82 kilograms (181 lbs) to 52 kilograms (115 lbs).
Three months later, his wife and child developed the same symptoms.
Lin said he went to every major hospital in Shanghai, but could not get a definite diagnosis. He has taken the HIV test eight times, and each time the test turned out negative.
Then he found an Internet blog called “The Negative Group,” which he learned stands for “HIV negative.” He realized that writing on this blog were all people like himself, with the same kinds of symptoms, desperate to find a cure.
Several Chinese media have recently reported that the Department of Health of Guangdong Province has confirmed that people in Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangdong have fallen ill after being infected with an unknown virus. The patients think they have AIDS, but they test negative for HIV.
Guangdong has organized clinical experts, epidemiologists and psychologists to work together on these cases. The Health Ministry has also selected six provinces with more patients, including Beijing, Shanghai, Zhejiang, Hunan, Jiangsu and Guangdong, to conduct epidemiological studies, but there are no results yet, the reports said.
In most of the 30 cases investigated by New Express Daily for its March 24 report, people said their relatives and friends are also infected. Most of the 30 patients were infected through sexual contact. Some experts diagnosed them as having AIDS phobia.
However, the disease seems to be highly contagious and can spread by contact via any bodily fluid—through kissing, shared utensils, sweat, and even protected sex. Once infected, the immune system appears to be attacked, which results in a decrease of white blood cells and the body’s ability to defend against infectious disease and foreign materials.
In the past, official health agencies have only conducted HIV tests on these patients and have not checked for other, similarly pathological viruses. With HIV results coming up negative, many patients then stopped taking protective measures with their relatives. Subsequently, all their relatives and friends were infected, many have said.
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mutating HIV virus? something new entirely? terrifying, whatever it is.
 
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Man your link has disgusting information in it:

A person who wishes to remain anonymous revealed that between 2008 to 2009, an Internet group called “Harbor,” consisting of more than 240 AIDS-phobia patients, formed a tourist group to donate blood in big cities between Shenzhen and Shanghai. They attempted to spread the virus and increase the number of infected people so that the state would start to pay attention to the disease.
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^ Seriously?! They increased the number of infected people just to get the state to pay attention to them? That's horrible. I know it's China and things are a lot different there, but that's just vile.
 
Google [aids-like disease in china] and you just get endless regurgitations of the same 1 or 2 articles from the same original chinese language paper. Same text, same report just reprinted in hundreds of other pubs with of course scary and alarmist headlines and comments.

It all sounds alot like some attempt at scare-mongering to me. No actual confirmation or notice by any western agencies which is highly suspicious... CDC and others really do try to stay informed about emerging new diseases in order to protect and warn their own publics.

So 11 years of this going on with zero mention by anyone other than these continuously repeated stories really just sounds like BS to me.
 
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lol sorry I had to post this
 
I wouldnt be so quick to dismiss with what we know about how fast hiv mutates its at least possible it could turn into something more infectous
 
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ditto... people around you also fall ill, you waste away, and your joints become stiff?? Sounds like somebody dumped something awful in your aquifer, of you drank tainted milk.
 
Could well be a dietary toxin also.

Until fairly recently (year or two) quite a few people were dying in some remote villages in yunnan province, china, the cause of death was sudden cardiac arrest.

Nobody had a clue what the cause was, until recently when the CDC investigated, and found out that it was a small mushroom, that was eaten locally by the villagers, as it was thought to be too insignificant, and worthless to sell, so they kept that species for themselves.

It turned out to contain toxins that acted synergistically with high quantities of the element barium in the local water supply, damn fast and insidious killer for a mushroom, the victims felt a little ill for a few hours sometimes, then suddenly dropped dead of a massive heart attack.


I wonder if this is being caused not by a pathogen, but heavy metal ingestion, cadmium poisoning causes arthralgia and stiff joints, along with wasting, aside from the reports of contagion.

Not sure if the bodily presence of low levels of a volatile organometallic heavy metal toxin could be passed on like that, I have doubts, but I am not confident.

Aside from the transmissibility though, those reported symptoms sound remarkably like cadmium poisoning.

Spreading through protected sex....that sounds plain iffy to be quite honest, makes me think that whatever is causing this, is not, in fact, vectored through interpersonal contact at all, at least, not in any living, pathogenic manner.
 
Wouldn't put it past the chinese govt. they give me the creeps, reputed organ harvesting and the like...not a bunch I would trust any further than I could piss.

Bioweapons are not something I approve of, perhaps distributing already existing diseases that stay strictly localised, and burn themselves out in battlefield situations or third-world countries isn't too bad, but genetically engineered pathogens have too much risk of getting out of control, and coming to bite people on the bollocks. The spanish flu was a good example of what happens when some highly contagious, lethal pathogen with a decent incubation period goes on the rampage, or the sweating sickness of the 1400s-early to mid 1500s, that swept across britain, and parts of europe, extremely contagious, and usually killed within hours, and then for some reason, dissappeared off the face of the earth.

That has had several causes suspected, the vector is unknown, although possibly through skin contact with sweat, typhus is one suspect, but it didn't behave like any arbovirus I know of, my guess is the hantavirus theory, reminds me of the cardiopulmonary syndrome type hantaviruses, sin nombre virus, and andes virus, which unusually for hantaviruses is contagious, which gives some weight to the theory, allowing for the contagious aspect.

Hantaviruses have been weaponised, and the russkis fucked about with anthrax, an ebolavirus/smallpox chimaera, and a similar nasty 'lil bugger based on venezuelan equine encephalitis/smallpox.

If its the case the chinese govt really did pull something like that, it could really turn around and bite them in the arse, I do hope so IF they did.
 
Why are people so quick to assume it's a mutation of HIV? There are countless deseases that affect immune response and cause weird symptoms that are not HIV or anything like HIV biologically speaking.

The only similarity between this and HIV seems to be both make you very sick and are scary and maybe affect immune response. Those symptoms really don't narrow things down very much at all. The only actual fact we have is that these people don't test positive for HIV which to me makes it seem more than likely it isn't HIV related.
 
Has anyone read, "World War Z"?


MrM said:
Why are people so quick to assume it's a mutation of HIV? There are countless deseases that affect immune response and cause weird symptoms that are not HIV or anything like HIV biologically speaking.

The only similarity between this and HIV seems to be both make you very sick and are scary and maybe affect immune response. Those symptoms really don't narrow things down very much at all. The only actual fact we have is that these people don't test positive for HIV which to me makes it seem more than likely it isn't HIV related.
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The people in China are calling it Anti-AIDS, that's why.
 
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