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Heroin Social: Version 6 (aka. Toot it up while you can)

I am lucky enough to know GLITCHED in real life and I usually eat pretty well,but the slow metabolism means I gain weight very easily too.
I know that I really need to just quit using and then I will give the clean samples I need,but if I am completely honest with myself,I don't really want to and would be quite happy to just use once a fortnight forever.So,I guess that's why I am still just trying to beat the test.
I said to them today 'why do I have to be so special?'
I try to drink as much as I can and I often crave water (picturing fountains and water coolers in my head),but I can only drink just so much before I feel nauseous from the liquid sloshing about in my stomach.
It's super frustrating but it makes sense of any other odd things that my body does (nearly all negative effects).I've had my liver tested and it isn't that so maybe thyroid.I don't think I will go back to using daily.
My keyworker asked today what I plan to do if I don't go to jail.I hadn't really thought of it as I just assume that's what will happen,with my luck,,or lack of it.But I decided that if I am lucky enough to beat that outcome,I wanna embrace my freedom and really try to get my life back on track.
 
^^ is glitched ok? haven't seen him for a while! We exchanged a few pm's, lovely person, hope he's ok! :)
 
Saw him last week and he was fine
he has decided to knock the gear on the head for now-since he doesn't want to jeapordise his job and his relationship with his girlfriend-which would hit the wall if she found out about him using.As he doesn't have a habit,I think it's very wise-so many of us have seen it coming but still allowed it to happen and then,of course,it's too late.Also with gear being so expensive atm,it's a lotta money to be wasting.
 
^^ too fucking true mate! I've done that exact thing, I saw the habit coming miles away, but I just buried my head in the sand as it were!

I'm glad he's ok, thanks for letting me know :)
 
Now I'm dealing with the aftermath, doing a cluck at the moment! Pregabalin is helping a lot though!
 
I'm so sorry your having all this hassle Katt, everyone on here knows how hard you are working to cut back on your heroin use, 9 days is a long time to crave something! & you've done so well to keep at it!

I really do know how you feel, i have walked out of the clinic in tears many a time after my test has been positive for opiates when i was sure it would be clean, my boyfriends test is always clean, he has a super fast metabolism, its so bloody unfair!!! :(

Whats done is done, try forget about it & enjoy your few days of freedom before you have to stop using again. I hope your ok?! Everyone on here knows how well your doing at cutting back! <3
 
Well done @Kkat on going 9 days without using, the most I can ever manage is only about 4 days so I know how hard it is.
@Acidtek good luck with your cluck mate and I hope it goes as smoothly as possible for you. All the best mate.
 
blondin said:
@Ructions - you said it your self about getting a habit with valium and your right to be concerned, its very easy to get addicted to them, even 3-4 weeks on them can be enough to get a habit and if you do the only way to come off them is a very slow taper. Try and have at least 2-3 non V days a week and remembetr they have an incredibly long 1/2 life 4.5.6 and more days for some people - also it will show on a pee test and if you dont have a script that might be awkward.

So go easy darlin' the last thing you need is another habit. And they just send you to sleep your taking too much, they are fairly fast to come on 30-40m so try taking 5mg and then take another 1-2 hours later if needed.

Take care
B
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Hi Blondin, thank-you for the thoughtful & caring post! :) Yes i'll have to be careful not to get a habit! I couldn't handle anymore hassle like that! I'm not all that good with drug terminology, so what does half life of 4, 5, 6 days mean? Does it mean the way methadone can hold you for up to 36 hours? Or is it the amount of time it takes to leave you system to pass a drugs test?

I'd taken 4 the other night & they just put me asleep, i think your right in saying i took to many, i've no tolerance what so ever to valium! & still the next day i was like a total zombie in work all day long! I drank 6 extra large black coffees & i still couldn't keep my eyes open, they were rolling around in my head! On my morning 15 minute break at 12pm i fell asleep in a cafe, i only woke when the girl cleared the table, i would never ever normally fall asleep in public!!! :o Never!!! I was amazed that the valium kept working for that long! I got home from work at around 7pm & fell asleep straight away, i kept waking & falling back asleep, i was too tired to get up & go to bed! I fell asleep 3 times while writing that post on this thread last night! ZZZzzz.....

I ended up scoring gear again to-night, so much for giving up, hey?! But i didn't go to the local guy who gave me that poxey tiny deal the other night, i went else were, it was still a small deal but at least i'll get six ok trays out of it instead of 4 tiny trays for the same price, its the very same gear, all the gear is the very same no matter where you score in Dublin, its all good looking weak crap! Why do i even bother??? 8( I've taken one valium to-night, i took a half & an hour later i took the another half. I'm such a light weight with the valium, they are only the yellow ones, you'd think i'd be ok with taking a few, but i don't want to go through another day like that in work tomorrow!!!

Its such a pity that my local guy sold me such a bad deal, up to now his deals were a great size! I even texed him afterwards & gave him a chance to explain, i asked him if maybe he mixed up my bag with someone else's? Maybe someone else ended up with my deal, i know this is not likely, but i was trying to make it easy for him, or if he had just said that he had to pay more for the gear himself then i would have paid him an extra €20 like i did in the past, but he said nothing, he took the cash & gave me half of what i was supposed to get! He never replied to my text, he just ignored me, so he has lost himself a customer!

Anyway thanx for the info & advise Blondin, i really do appreciate it! Can you explain what half life is if you get a chance? Thanx! :)
 
maxalfie said:
Well done @Kkat on going 9 days without using, the most I can ever manage is only about 4 days so I know how hard it is.
@Acidtek good luck with your cluck mate and I hope it goes as smoothly as possible for you. All the best mate.
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Thanks maxalfie, means a lot mate to have a bit of support, I'm over 48 hours in now, and I'm not feeling too bad, little rough, restless legs, aching, not too much throwing up! Pretty good all and all!
 
Thanks mate, I'm feeling surprisingly positive, but I have necked a load of pregabalin, so that's really helping! Can't get hold of any subutex at the moment, otherwise I would have used that for the first 3days and then done a rapid detox off that, which I find pretty painless if you taper low enough. Don't want to go on a script, the waitin list is normally about two weeks, I know thats pretty good, but I can't afford to buy gear between now and then! I probably need a script, because opiates really help me to feel well and confident every day!

Thanks for your support mate, it does mean a lot!
 
@Ructions - 1/2 life means that if you take 10mgs of valium on monday you will still have 5mgs in you blood come thursday - thats why your groggy in th emorning. Valium is a strong drug thas why it comes in 2,5,10mgs and if you have notollerance 5mg would get you off.. Methadone has a 1/2 life anywhere between 24-28 hours depending on the person. I jumped off 30mgs once and it took 3 days for any cluck to appear - that was a bad day just had enough strengh to score - in my slippers, shuffling along like an old man.
 
Acidtek said:
Thanks mate, I'm feeling surprisingly positive, but I have necked a load of pregabalin, so that's really helping! Can't get hold of any subutex at the moment, otherwise I would have used that for the first 3days and then done a rapid detox off that, which I find pretty painless if you taper low enough. Don't want to go on a script, the waitin list is normally about two weeks, I know thats pretty good, but I can't afford to buy gear between now and then! I probably need a script, because opiates really help me to feel well and confident every day!

Thanks for your support mate, it does mean a lot!
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Obviously if your thinking about a script you want to weigh it up very carefully as it is a big commitment .
But after hearing you say
opiates really help me to feel well and confident every day!
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thats making me think that you may be a good candidate for one ,

It will give you a lot more stabillity something that you will never get if your constantly pickin up n then de toxing .
2 weeks is amazingly short back in the days it was around 6 months at the least i'm talkin the mid 90s .

Only you know whats best for you but from what you have posted recently it sounds like a period of stability with yer opiate use would really be good for you & enable you to deal with other stuff you have going on in your lfe.

Whatever choose give it a good bit of thought , i'm sure you will nothing worse than making a rash decision about something as serious as this .
All the best mate.
 
Thank you very much brimz, your post is excellent and speaks the truth!

I think I would be a good candidate for a script, been there before and I felt on top of the world! The problem is that I like being under the influence of a substance, it allows me to function like a 'normal' person! Sad but true! I need to try and stabalise my other prescription meds as well!
 
Here is a link with more speculations as to whats causing the drought! Its most likely a mixture of things, i don't think we'll ever know for sure!

It does say in the link that it takes 18months from the time the opium is harvested to when it hits our streets. That doesn't really make sense coz the drought hit soon after last years bad harvest, it didn't take 18months for the poppy blight to effect us, but the quality of heroin had been getting worse & worse for the 2 years coming up to the drought!

Also why do some countries seem barely effected? Its a real head scratcher! Guess we'll never really know! If customs were managing to totally crack down on routes use for trafficking & if they were been extra vigilant at stopping heroin getting into UK & Ireland then how come cocaine, hash ect is still getting in no problem? You'd think if they could stop one drug that they'd be able to stop them all!!!

Sometimes me head hurts trying to figure this drought out! Guess i'll never really sus it out......

http://euobserver.com/851/114288
 
At this moment I have done my longest stint clean in 4 years, 3 weeks now but the wd's weren't so bad as I had only been using on and off for a couple of weeks beforehand. Having a long distance relationship has made me seriously cut down and I'm now only using 2 or 3 times a week compared to every day last year. In december I flew out to Germany for 2 and a half weeks and I have noticed that my wd's are very mild now, compared to the violent ones I have suffered before. I have also ran out of subutex which I had stockpiled from my take home script last year....I think this is a good thing, I experienced much worse wd's when i stopped taking the subs, it came and bit me on the arse after a week of feeling normal. So no meds, and right now I'm sleeping and feeling ok which is a new thing buttt I know I'm going to relapse, I have already planned it in my head for when i get paid and can get to town. For some reason I have this irrational fear that if I don't pick up off dealers they will forget me and I won't be able to score again, or maybe that's just my excuse, I've never liked searching around and only ever had a couple of dealers at a time. Just really looking forward to that first snowball, especially being clean for a couple of weeks....almost feels like the first time, but not quite. Good thing is I know that I'm getting decent (if small) deals, but I'd rather have small bags and proper gear. Have to wait till sunday and it's killing me now...when I know I will score soon the anticipation makes me fucking anxious. Anyway hope everyones good this evening
 
I did a meth stocktake yesterday cos a load that I had stashed turned up. Jesus, there's about 6 frigging litres of the shit in total! Does anyone know if it goes off or not? I'd fucking hate to have so much stored up and then have to throw a load away cos it'd gone off. I mean, I don't think it goes bad but I'm not sure.
 
@ hooks , I'm the same as you mate , iv got litres tucked away in my loft , i don't think it goes off ,some of it is about 5-6 years old. the only trouble I find is some of the sugar lids stick but that's about all.
When the drought started I sorted a few people out with the older jollop and knowone said any thing.
But I have often wonderd about it shelflife myself.
 
Meth lasts for long time .

If you have any of the 500ml bottles y'no the trade size ones it will have a date on their somewhere , still i would say that is just a guide n it would keep longer.

You boys sure are naughty saving all that jollop part of me wants to have a go at you but i can't cos i like you both n think yer sound;)
 
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