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Heroin Heroin overdosing question

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Hello bluelight, I started using heroin (insufflated) after my long love of oxycodone. Ever since I began my relationship with H I have been very sketched out about possibly overdosing. So could anyone tell me how easy/hard it is to overdose from snorting heroin. I would also like to know how long after I snort heroin will I overdose (if I do obviously). I would also like to know if there is any possible way to know if I am nearing an overdose, often times the rush from just snorting one bag sketches me out so much that I think I am either overdosing or I am going to have a heart attack. I feel like this is just all in my head because most of the time I think I am overdosing I am not even nodding yet but I just feel like all the heroin I used that day is building up in my system and slowing my heart/breathing down more and more, so basically the more I do over the course of the day the more I feel like I am going to fall out and die.

So please can somebody please answer my above question so I can calm my paranoid brain 8(.
 
Oh and also, how long should I wait before redosing to avoid any possible risk of overdosing, often times I "bump" myself up to my desired high and keep doing bumps to keep my high but I feel like I am wasting and I would like to start dosing in one line then waiting a while to redose
 
Please don't bump your own threads. This isn't an emergency service, threads take time to be answered...

Anyway, the ease of overdosing is largely dependent on tolerance, but any drug overdose can be avoided (or at least the risk factor severely cut down) by simply being very careful and dosing cautiously for whatever their personal tolerance is..

As far as time frame, with snorting heroin, the window is much greater. You can overdose hours after using, especially if you keep re-dosing. The danger of opiate OD's is you very rarely can do anything about them yourself. You simply just loose consciousness. That's why it's very good to always have somebody with you when using.

However, some signs include depressed breathing, blue lips, and extreme uncontrolled nodding.

It's important to remember that the line between taking too much and OD'ing and just being very high is very thin. It is a powerful drug and kills people everyday. Be careful.
 
If you can't urinate that may be a sign that you are close to an overdose. I associate it with my system shutting down, although there are plenty of people that experience this without overdosing. If you are in the bathroom for a while trying to pee then take a look in the mirror to see if your lips are turning blue, which is one of the signs that mr. Scagnattie mentioned.
 
Tommyboy said:
If you can't urinate that may be a sign that you are close to an overdose. I associate it with my system shutting down, although there are plenty of people that experience this without overdosing. If you are in the bathroom for a while trying to pee then take a look in the mirror to see if your lips are turning blue, which is one of the signs that mr. Scagnattie mentioned.
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Oh wow I have never heard of inability to urinate as being a sign of an OD. Thats scary I have this problem on a daily basis while high. My bf says I spend more time in the bathroom than with him haha.
 
opiates cause urinary retention anyway, it's not really a sign of overdose per se. it's pretty easy to be safe with insufflated H (relatively speaking, as safe as you can be doing H, anyway). you've been at it already so you must have some feeling for your average dose and you're building up some tolerance. so just stick to what you know dose-wise. insufflating, you should be able to go four to six hours between redosing and feel good throughout (longer if you're still fairly new to opiates in general). if you aren't dosing much more frequently than that, you don't have to worry about the doses stacking on top of one another very much. if you get a new connect or your current connect tells you he has a "new batch" maybe try a smaller test bump first then wait a bit to feel it out before you do a full sized dose. be careful when mixing with other CNS depressants like benzos but ESPECIALLY alcohol this is where a lot of people get into trouble with H regardless of ROA. just common sense, basic harm reduction practices and you'll be fine.
 
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Well the only times that I've been 'scary high' [nodding really hard and turning pale and a bit blue in the lips] have been when it took me hours to urinate, so although its common to take a while to urinate while high on opiates, I would definitely say its a sign of an overdose since I'm sure most people that have overdosed from sniffing heroin have experienced this and then went to bed never to wake up again. This is why I make sure to never go to bed before being able to urinate.
 
I smoke it and have pretty high tolerance so I think in my case it must just be urinary retention. But good to know that it could potentially be a warning sign, especially if it takes longer than usual or something like that. Nodding hard and nausea are usually signs that I've pushed it too far although these days I'm finding it hard to get high at all but I'm not willing to make the jump to IV at this point. I'm planning on trying to kick soon..a 1-2 gram daily habit is not going to be fun withdrawal wise. Sorry for hijacking!
 
Thanks a lot for all the support guys you all taught me a lot and I'm definitely way less sketched out now haha
 
Im guessing your getting the same stamped baggies i get in NY, Id start off with 2/3 of a bag, gauge from there. You can always get more high, you cant get less. Use in the confort of your own home with a buddy. You dont want to fall off and have NANA find your dead body on the floor. Sorry for the grim talk but last time i checked thats reality of the game your entering. Only the careful survive, not even the smartest.
 
Here's a grand old tip: STAY AWAY FROM HEROIN!!! I've done my share, and found it to be so obnoxiously inconsistent I reverted back to morphine, which, while not crossing the blood-brain barrier quite as quickly as heroin (aka diamorphine), crosses it plenty fast if your objective is to get high. Besides, if you want they immediate blood-brain barrier cross-over, use oxycodone. I've never known anyone who has OD'd on morphine or oxycodone, yet I know many ppl who have OD'd and even died using smack. Why risk it?

But if you insist on using it, try have a babysitter with you, and failinf that, only push half the plunger in and wait, or only bump half the line and wait. You get the picture. Good luck.
 
Willy31 said:
Here's a grand old tip: STAY AWAY FROM HEROIN!!! I've done my share, and found it to be so obnoxiously inconsistent I reverted back to morphine, which, while not crossing the blood-brain barrier quite as quickly as heroin (aka diamorphine), crosses it plenty fast if your objective is to get high. Besides, if you want they immediate blood-brain barrier cross-over, use oxycodone. I've never known anyone who has OD'd on morphine or oxycodone, yet I know many ppl who have OD'd and even died using smack. Why risk it?

But if you insist on using it, try have a babysitter with you, and failinf that, only push half the plunger in and wait, or only bump half the line and wait. You get the picture. Good luck.
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You've never heard of somebody OD'ing on oxy? Really..? That shit is killing kids all over the country, especially in suburban towns.

You don't hear about "Morphine OD's", because in comparison to the amount of people using heroin and oxy, there are way way less people doing morphine. It's nowhere near as common. Even if it was, there would be just as many OD's.
 
Word bro, I have never met or heard of anyone ODing on oxy, seriously. and I'm not running in some fringe circle, it's mainstream users. Perhaps it's cause here in my city oxy just isn't prevalent....
 
Nowadays, prescription pain killers cause more deaths than heroin and cocaine combined. I dunno how many of those are from oxy but I am sure its a good percentage...just saying
 
Zerrr said:
Nowadays, prescription pain killers cause more deaths than heroin and cocaine combined. I dunno how many of those are from oxy but I am sure its a good percentage...just saying
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I wonder if this is still true, I know I read about it 2-3. maybe even 4 year ago. But that as right around the time that the OP 80s were coming into effect. I am sure the switch to Opana caused a whole bunch of ODs for people(people switching to Opana from oxycodone that is, and due to it being so strong when snorted/shot), I have a friend with little tolerance be given a 10 mg piece to snort and he was in mild OD, he went home early that night for no reason and puked and felt ill, but interestingly, AFAIK he never used opiates again after that. Even now Opana can't be snorted, so people are stuck with the Roxies and those are becomgin scarcer and less reasonable to buy for obvious reasons. If heroin isn't already back to leading in ER visits for ODs again, I am sure its at least a much closer battle with Rx'd painkillers.

I also wonder if this is somehwat because people are more likely to think it alright to combine Rx painkillers with other meds like benzos and also with alcohol. While with street rugs people assume its a bigger risk, when its not different in terms of risk at all, its all about dose.



Concerning the urinating thing, I think if its taking you 30-60 seconds to start, maybe a little longer and the streams a bit weak, that is normal opiates use side effect. But if you just plain old can't go at all, and there is complete peace to go (no possibility for stage fright), then you probably did too much.
 
If you're talking about heroin+cocaine vs prescription painkillers it might now be close.

just heroin vs ppks is not close though- might be in the northeast. Somehow NH recorded more drug deaths from heroin over the course of a year recently. Usually methadone or oxycodone kill the most people.

Heroin by itself rarely kills anyone.(compared to heroin + other drugs/alcohol)

source: google skills
 
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