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heroin lasts longer than pretty much any abusability-comparable morphine based opiate out there. veery easy to get from natural sources unlike synthetics like oxy. I find IV hydromorphone to be the best opiate.
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Heroin: Is it really that different from all the rest?
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During a period of six months I figured out af way that gave me access to pharmaceutical grade injectable medicine like fentanyl, morphine, oxycodone, ketamine, stesolid emulsion (diazepam for injection, it looks like milk), and different barbiturates. The ampuls and vials were different sizes but mostly either an ampul with 1 or 2 ml where you had to "break" the top of, or a similar but bigger ampul with 10 or 20 ml where you also had to break to top of and in rare cases vials where you had to use a needle and press it through some rubber like substance in the top of a 10 ml vial and then you can draw the liqiud up with a syringe.
I LOVED injecting ampuls with morphine and oxycodone. But there were many more fentanyl ampuls than morphine and oxycodone. I think a weeks supply would look like something like this:
1 box of 10 ampuls with 1 ml/20mg morphine
1 box of 10x10ml ampuls with 20 ml/20 mg morphine
1 box of 4 ampuls with 20 ml/10mg oxycodone
50 boxes of 10 ampuls with 10ml/50mcg fentanyl
50 boxes of 10 ampuls with 2ml/50mcg fentanyl
+ more ketamine, stesolid and barbiturates than I could use
And this came every week for six month until I got arrested by the police due to the illicit method of access to the drugs that were supposed to go to a hospital.
Needless to say I developed a severe addiction plus I could trade these pharmaceutical drugs for other recreational drugs. I thought people would go wild and trade me anything for these things, but the people I knew were not IV drug users, so it was too much for them. They were not interested, However, one cocaine dealer I knew would trade 10x10ml fentanyl ampuls for 10 gram of cocaine regularly. Therefore, I started shooting cocaine IV as well because I was already shooting the medicine.
In a week I would rather quick get through the morphine and oxycodone (injectable oxycodone in DK is called oxynorm which is also the name of an IR pill) as I prefered this over fentanyl. Morphine and oxycodone was much more euphoric and less sadating. But I used all the morphine and oxycodone before I got more, thus fentanyl became the primary opioid I injected everyday in these six months, as I always had this. When I had used all the ampuls of morphine and oxycodone I turned to fentanyl as I had more of this than I could use. I had more fentanyl, ketamine, stesolid and barbiturates than I could use, so I started storing the liqiud medicine in big boxes (actually it should be refrigerated, but my fridge was full of fentanyl). The problem with injecting fentanyl was that though it was very euphoric, it was also very sedating. So even though I took cocaine IV as well I did not have enough cocaine to battle the sedation. So I fell a sleep in something like 24 hours in one go. As such I lost one day in a seven day week because I was so sedated that I slept very deep.
My point is, there is a limit with IV fentanyl where you can only inject it and feel euphoria up to a certain point, after reaching that point you will fall a sleep from the sedation. Whereas with morphine and oxycodone the cocaine was stronger than the sedation. It was extremely intense and euphoric to inject oxycodone and cocaine in one shot. Probably the best feeling I have felt ever. Injecting ketobemidone is more euphoric than injecting oxycodone, but oxy paired with cocaine beats ketobemidone.
My tolerance for opioids and opiats got so big after a while that I started experimenting with injecting ketamine, stesolid and barbiturates together with fentanyl. But the combination was not more euphoric, it was just more sedating. So I ended up sleeping more.
Everytime I got a new delivery of morphine and oxycodone I traded fentanyl for cocaine I stayed awake for days injecting it until I ran out of cocaine. I was so far out that I tried injecting adrenaline (Epinephrine) one time. It was just 0,1 ml but damn I felt bad, I thought I would die. But after a while my heart started acting normal again and I got better. I never touched that again.
It sounds insane to inject Epinephrine, but it was pharmeceutical medicine I received which was meant for a hospital, so I also got a lot of stuff that had no recreational value which is just ignored. Until that point I had just ignored it because I knew you could not use it recreational. But I thought it might act kinda like a stimulant and make me stay away, but damn was I wrong. It only influenced the heart. I think this shows how fucked up I was at this time and it might also be an example of how lucky I was not to kill myself with the stuff I got. To be honest I actually think I would have killed myself if the police had not found out what I was doing and arrested me.
It sounds crazy that it was possible for me to get that amount of pharmaceutical medicine for so long, but think about how big the hospital sector is and how complex the system behind the hospitals is. It is so complex that no one person can have an overview of it in its entirety and that was how I managed to get access to the medicine and get it delivered at a place where only I knew that a truck would come and deliever it. Then I simply picked the boxes up (there was a lot) in my car and took it home. The package was a delievery meant for a trauma center at a big hospital where patients come in from ambulances.
I think that is the extend of details I will tell. I don't know if they have made the system more secure after my stunt. At my trial, they had no idea how much medicine that actually had been delivered to me, I only got convicted for the amount of drugs that was present at my house when the police came (and believe me, that was plenty
). But the fact that they did not have knowledge about the extend of my stunt is a sign that they have very little control with the deliveries.
Even though I am tempted to get access to free injectable morphine and oxycodone etc. again I am NOT going to attempt it again as I think it would be noticed immediately.
But that is the story behind the worst and deepest level of my addiction. Before this stunt I had never taken anything but steroids with needles and as you know that is IM. But I think the experience with that was why I did not see a big boarder between me taking opiats oral and then going to IV. Afterall it was medicine meant for IV.
After I got arrested I was placed in rehab and I have been there ever since. Today methadone is saving my life every day. Without that I think I would have turned to heroin as that is the only thing I can get access to easy and affordable. But if I start injecting heroin I think I will loose everything I have today very fast. And I have come a long way from the day the police kicked in my door while I was sitting with a needle in my arm. They searched my entire home and found all the things I had stashed. I hate the police, but I think they saved my life that day so many years ago.
I am tempted to try heroin and see if it is better than IV ketobemidone or IV oxycodone, but if I do, I think I will loose everything. After all, there is no doubt that I am highly addicted to opiats in particular but also other drugs. I fear heroin will be so euphoric that I just drop everything and start taking that eeeeeveryday. This is where methadone come in and save my life everyday
I LOVED injecting ampuls with morphine and oxycodone. But there were many more fentanyl ampuls than morphine and oxycodone. I think a weeks supply would look like something like this:
1 box of 10 ampuls with 1 ml/20mg morphine
1 box of 10x10ml ampuls with 20 ml/20 mg morphine
1 box of 4 ampuls with 20 ml/10mg oxycodone
50 boxes of 10 ampuls with 10ml/50mcg fentanyl
50 boxes of 10 ampuls with 2ml/50mcg fentanyl
+ more ketamine, stesolid and barbiturates than I could use
And this came every week for six month until I got arrested by the police due to the illicit method of access to the drugs that were supposed to go to a hospital.
Needless to say I developed a severe addiction plus I could trade these pharmaceutical drugs for other recreational drugs. I thought people would go wild and trade me anything for these things, but the people I knew were not IV drug users, so it was too much for them. They were not interested, However, one cocaine dealer I knew would trade 10x10ml fentanyl ampuls for 10 gram of cocaine regularly. Therefore, I started shooting cocaine IV as well because I was already shooting the medicine.
In a week I would rather quick get through the morphine and oxycodone (injectable oxycodone in DK is called oxynorm which is also the name of an IR pill) as I prefered this over fentanyl. Morphine and oxycodone was much more euphoric and less sadating. But I used all the morphine and oxycodone before I got more, thus fentanyl became the primary opioid I injected everyday in these six months, as I always had this. When I had used all the ampuls of morphine and oxycodone I turned to fentanyl as I had more of this than I could use. I had more fentanyl, ketamine, stesolid and barbiturates than I could use, so I started storing the liqiud medicine in big boxes (actually it should be refrigerated, but my fridge was full of fentanyl). The problem with injecting fentanyl was that though it was very euphoric, it was also very sedating. So even though I took cocaine IV as well I did not have enough cocaine to battle the sedation. So I fell a sleep in something like 24 hours in one go. As such I lost one day in a seven day week because I was so sedated that I slept very deep.
My point is, there is a limit with IV fentanyl where you can only inject it and feel euphoria up to a certain point, after reaching that point you will fall a sleep from the sedation. Whereas with morphine and oxycodone the cocaine was stronger than the sedation. It was extremely intense and euphoric to inject oxycodone and cocaine in one shot. Probably the best feeling I have felt ever. Injecting ketobemidone is more euphoric than injecting oxycodone, but oxy paired with cocaine beats ketobemidone.
My tolerance for opioids and opiats got so big after a while that I started experimenting with injecting ketamine, stesolid and barbiturates together with fentanyl. But the combination was not more euphoric, it was just more sedating. So I ended up sleeping more.
Everytime I got a new delivery of morphine and oxycodone I traded fentanyl for cocaine I stayed awake for days injecting it until I ran out of cocaine. I was so far out that I tried injecting adrenaline (Epinephrine) one time. It was just 0,1 ml but damn I felt bad, I thought I would die. But after a while my heart started acting normal again and I got better. I never touched that again.
It sounds insane to inject Epinephrine, but it was pharmeceutical medicine I received which was meant for a hospital, so I also got a lot of stuff that had no recreational value which is just ignored. Until that point I had just ignored it because I knew you could not use it recreational. But I thought it might act kinda like a stimulant and make me stay away, but damn was I wrong. It only influenced the heart. I think this shows how fucked up I was at this time and it might also be an example of how lucky I was not to kill myself with the stuff I got. To be honest I actually think I would have killed myself if the police had not found out what I was doing and arrested me.
It sounds crazy that it was possible for me to get that amount of pharmaceutical medicine for so long, but think about how big the hospital sector is and how complex the system behind the hospitals is. It is so complex that no one person can have an overview of it in its entirety and that was how I managed to get access to the medicine and get it delivered at a place where only I knew that a truck would come and deliever it. Then I simply picked the boxes up (there was a lot) in my car and took it home. The package was a delievery meant for a trauma center at a big hospital where patients come in from ambulances.
I think that is the extend of details I will tell. I don't know if they have made the system more secure after my stunt. At my trial, they had no idea how much medicine that actually had been delivered to me, I only got convicted for the amount of drugs that was present at my house when the police came (and believe me, that was plenty
). But the fact that they did not have knowledge about the extend of my stunt is a sign that they have very little control with the deliveries.Even though I am tempted to get access to free injectable morphine and oxycodone etc. again I am NOT going to attempt it again as I think it would be noticed immediately.
But that is the story behind the worst and deepest level of my addiction. Before this stunt I had never taken anything but steroids with needles and as you know that is IM. But I think the experience with that was why I did not see a big boarder between me taking opiats oral and then going to IV. Afterall it was medicine meant for IV.
After I got arrested I was placed in rehab and I have been there ever since. Today methadone is saving my life every day. Without that I think I would have turned to heroin as that is the only thing I can get access to easy and affordable. But if I start injecting heroin I think I will loose everything I have today very fast. And I have come a long way from the day the police kicked in my door while I was sitting with a needle in my arm. They searched my entire home and found all the things I had stashed. I hate the police, but I think they saved my life that day so many years ago.
I am tempted to try heroin and see if it is better than IV ketobemidone or IV oxycodone, but if I do, I think I will loose everything. After all, there is no doubt that I am highly addicted to opiats in particular but also other drugs. I fear heroin will be so euphoric that I just drop everything and start taking that eeeeeveryday. This is where methadone come in and save my life everyday
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SirTophamHat
Bluelighter
Heroin is cheap and available. Its relative strength in addition to these traits means it gets a lot of press from users of opiates. It also tends to be baby's first IV, which again puts a unqiue spin on the experience compared to other recreational analgesics.
As far as which is best, i like oxymorphone, opium, and hydromorphone more than heroin. Effects-wise, it's subjective...
As far as which is best, i like oxymorphone, opium, and hydromorphone more than heroin. Effects-wise, it's subjective...
CfZrx
Bluelighter
really? i thought oxy was meh.
Pill2Chill
Bluelight Crew
Oxycodone is great. It's my favorite opiate. (Haven't tried hydro&oxymorphone though).
But they pay crazy prices for oxycodone in the US, so I'm sure a lot of people agree that it's really good, and definitely one of the best pharmaceutical opioids out there.
It's very functional as it's a little stimulating, while still providing euphoria that's (IMhO) on par with that of heroin.
It's, in one word, great.
But they pay crazy prices for oxycodone in the US, so I'm sure a lot of people agree that it's really good, and definitely one of the best pharmaceutical opioids out there.
It's very functional as it's a little stimulating, while still providing euphoria that's (IMhO) on par with that of heroin.
It's, in one word, great.
kush
Bluelighter
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Oxy is way less noddy compared to heroin. You have to take A lot of oxy to get to that euphoric nod. Only talking about tar because that's all I've tried but tar has a better body high, and a more relaxing and chilled out effect. Oxy is more rushy and slightly pushy. But Oxy plus benzos is on par if not better than H.