Heroin for autistic girl and others with similar problems

[limonov]

This is quite possibly the stupidest thread on bluelight at the moment, like jesus christ.Sometimes i have trouble sleeping maybe i should take heroin?

And the posts like your one have only served to make it stupider. High five bro.8)

I like how my post is the only one that has any references/support (the plural of anecdote is not data), yet was completely ignored. I don't think anyone is advocating heroin for paper cuts, however opiates do actually have a long history of being used for various psychological/neurological conditions (the FIRST recognised anti-depressant was OPIUM followed shortly by MORPHINE).

Most of the posts in this thread have been based on ignorance about and predjudice against opiates (particularly heroin). If the OP had been about tramadol for depression/autism/whatever it would have gone very differently as tramadol is popular with the 'oh yeah, I regularly take seizure-doses of tramadol- but heroin is TEH DEVILZ!!11!' crowd and is an SSRI with mu-agonist metabolites. And there have been several thread on that subject which were discussed reasonably.

For fucks sake, do you really think that anyone is advocating just giving some autistic dude a box of insulin syringes and a few bricks of raw every few weeks? No, if opiates were still used as anti-depressants (and they are, it's just a brave doctor who is going to go in for that sort of off-label prescriptions, but there have been studies- some positive, some negative) they would be prescribed, you'd probably want sustained release and you'd want extremely careful monitoring (as should be standard practice when prescribing any addictive/abusable drug). And you'd probably be more likely to get something like tramadol or dihydrocodeine than morphine, let alone heroin.

Heroin, the drug that makes right on fuckwits transform into Nancy Reagan in the flick of an eye. Seriously, this could have been a interesting and worthwhile thread, instead approx 50% of the responses have been one line dismissals.

And for the record- you wanna see a really retarded thread, head over to the big and dandy methoxetamine thread- "So I've been taking like a gram a day for about 6 month now and I'm absolutely certain it has no addictive qualities- it is the SOMA!' For fucks sake...

 

[Seyer]

Lol.

 

[Mr D Matukas]

I think you've had too much, if she had it everyday, her tolerance would go up.. and she would start getting even madder and a million times worse

 

[iliketoast]

I don't necessarily support the idea that heroin could be the saving grace of everyone with a brain that's set up differently...

I do agree that opiates have a lot of positive potential, but it's definitely limited and a little caution is still important.

Back to the OP...

I'm not autistic, but my brain is constantly swirling and I can be hypersensitive to external stimuli - sometimes I feel like I'm going to EXPLODE or can't breathe, or I just shut down because it's the only way to get through. It doesn't even take a "large crowd" situation to bring about these sensations. Sometimes I think it's just my body preemptively freaking out over nothing.

Stimulants have been awesome for me. They help dull things a bit so I can function, instead of having to concentrate on not-having-a-moment. I think any responses that suggest a stimulant for a whirring mind are more on the mark than heroin. But still...

On a related note, I really enjoyed this documentary - Wretches & Jabberers - about two autistic men who travel the world working for advocacy and understanding. They both type, and being able to hear their thoughts is powerful.

 

[Nocturne83]

I don't think so. First of all, like an above poster mentioned, some people are prone to irritability while on opiates. Autistic people already have enough mental and emotional problems as it is. Second, being itchy all the time can't possibly ease an autistic person's problems.
I know an autistic person who had a job at a department store, who had been prescribed oxycodone for an injury. She'd been having a bad day at work, and on top of that, the oxies made her even more irritable that day. She was also constantly itching, so all of that just compounded her mental and sensory overload. She wound up having a meltdown in the middle of the store, right in front of the customers, and was subsequently fired.
Obviously, opiates did NOT help her at all, and wound up making her life worse.
Having said that, autism is a spectrum disorder, and opiates may very well help a different autistic person immensely. Still, the issue of tolerance and physical dependence is always going to present a problem. That kind of treatment plan can't last forever.