Help with NBOMe Blotters?

[gwd]

Recently I acquired some NBOMe blotters, and I was wondering if there was a way to convert them into a snortable substance. I've heard various different methods but they all seem to differ. Some people say you can put the blotter in a few drops of alcohol and let it sit for ~5 minutes and then snort the liquid, while others say you can put the liquid on sugar then snort it (not too sure about how credible that sounds...). Reason for this is that I have trouble keeping the blotter in my mouth without swallowing it by accident, it works but to a lesser extent than I would believe it would if I applied it nasally. Anyone have any advice on how to go about doing this?

 

[zn13bt]

You can try sticking the blotter under your upper lip on your gums, that'll be easier to hold in your mouth than keeping it under your tongue. I make my own NBOMe blotters and it's a reliable method in my experience. I usually leave it in there for about a half hour or so.

 

[gwd]

That's is part of the problem I have been having- I tried putting it between my lip and gums, and it keeps sliding out and falling back into my month. Anywhere else in my mouth the large amount of saliva seems to "flood" the blotter and carry it deeper into my mouth, sometimes to the point of accidental swallowing. Is there any way to at least reduce salivation for 30-45 minutes?

 

[bigbadwolf]

interested in this myself. i have only ever took it in the form of snuff caps which is just it mixed in with a powder. I dont know but would it be possible to lick and moisten it and put it on the inside of your nose?

 

[zn13bt]

That's is part of the problem I have been having- I tried putting it between my lip and gums, and it keeps sliding out and falling back into my month. Anywhere else in my mouth the large amount of saliva seems to "flood" the blotter and carry it deeper into my mouth, sometimes to the point of accidental swallowing. Is there any way to at least reduce salivation for 30-45 minutes?

Huh, I've never had a problem with keeping it in place. My homemade blotters are relatively big, they're actually strips of paper towel about an inch and a half long. Don't know if that helps with it sticking to the surface of the gums or something. So maybe you could try to find bigger blotters, or you can go with your original idea of soaking them in some alcohol. That should work pretty well, NBOMes are a lot more soluble in alcohol than in water, though I would probably let it sit for longer than 5 minutes, maybe an hour or so. Then once it's in the alcohol you can snort it directly, or you can drop it onto a carrier substance like sugar and let it evaporate and then snort that. Probably best to use ethanol (vodka, everclear, etc) instead of IPA since you'll be ingesting it, unless you drop it on a carrier and make absolutely sure it's all evaporated.

Also be aware that insufflated doses will kick in a lot faster and harder than buccal/sublingual dosing. Do you know how much is on supposed to be on your blotters? There are a lot of 25I blotters out there being laid with 1mg or more, which is already pretty high for a buccal dose and would be an extremely high nasal dose (depending on your sensitivity and tolerance etc). You can titrate your dose by diluting the alcohol with some water, then snort a couple drops at a time waiting 5-10 minutes in between until you get to the level you want to be at.

 

[Solipsis]

Yes I have applied various NBOMe compounds to snortable powder carriers. I am pretty turned off by snorting these compounds now, but yes you could do the same with blotters if you first extract the blotters by simply soaking them in some pure alcohol (ethanol or isopropanol preferably). I really don't feel like explaining it all over again, read the 25C-NBOMe thread(s) globally and search for my posts in them.

 

[Reverend Random]

Snorting NBOMe's? I would be very cautious if I were you. Is it really that hard to keep it under your tongue as well? Stick it somewhere in the back of your teeth and you should be fine...

 

[TDOOMX]

Snorting NBOMe's? I would be very cautious if I were you. Is it really that hard to keep it under your tongue as well? Stick it somewhere in the back of your teeth and you should be fine...

right on. maybe brushing your teeth before hand...
anything to open up da vessels.

 

[kidklmx]

IME the difference of ROAs in terms of side-effects is hardly notable, there doesn't seem to be more vasoconstricion going on. One time someone threw up on 25C, and another time someone kind off freaked out, but that's it in terms of bad experiences. Those were all nasal, but IMO that could have happened on sublingual/buccal too and wasn't really made worse because of that.

If you're going to have side-effects, then you'll have them either way

 

[bigbadwolf]

so would i be correct in saying that if i soaked a blotter in say a teaspoon of vodka and snorted it that would be effective?

 

[gwd]

Okay, so I searched Solipsis's earlier posts on snorting and from what I understand, yes it is possible to soak a blotter in a bit of vodka, drop it onto a small line of sugar, let it evaporate, and then snort it. Going to try this out next time.

 

[bigbadwolf]

do you mean let the sugar absorb it all up and then sniff it? could you just sniff the vodka?

 

[Solipsis]

Snorting alcohol is definitely not recommended (apparently it is quite unpleasant), but yes there seem to be plenty of people who apply small amounts of liquid solution to their noses. So you can use liquid or solid carriers for insufflation. Again, there should be info in the 25C-NBOMe thread(s). The action of N-benzyl PEA compounds like these seem to be dependent on how quickly the drug it makes to the brain. The more acute the administration, absorption and transportation, the more severe the effects would be but that probably also includes side-effects and the type of danger that could kill a sensitive person.

So yes it would be effective, and you might lose less product than when taken sublingually / bucally, as long as your amount of carrier is not excessive as that would cause dripping out of the nose to either direction. But no, if NBOMe compounds are not particularly safe, this ROA probably is even less so.
I think the same reasoning holds for vaporizing / smoking NBOMe compounds.
Look, we're dealing with ultra potent compounds with short history of use in humans and there are acute and chronic dangers involved that quite frankly I find concerning and have made me decide not to use them. Do you really want to increase the chance that things go wrong by boosting your peak plasma levels?

Also I think a long term side-effect subthread is warranted and I will be moving syle's post + response post(s) there. Whether or not you find the issues people report to be of considerable gravitas, we need to pool that data.