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help? Tramadol question

xtcgrrrl

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I'm not sure how to post this. I got these pills, they say on the back Zendol-SR (Tramadol tablets.) I acquired them for my severe lower back pain. But now that I have them, I have no instructions on how to use them. Do I take one? Two? Would it be a good idea to break them in half before swallowing? Will instructions say NOT to break them in half? It says on the back they are 100 mgs each. I'm really cautious with Tramadol because of the seizure risk. I want to be able to use them, but I don't even want to open them until I know if I can SAFELY use them. I've come close to an OD before out of ignorance and it is scary as fuck. I'm not posting this for the purposes of getting high but for pain relief. (I wouldn't mind a buzz, but pain relief is my primary objective.) So I'm just not sure if I should open the blister packet or leave it alone and pass it along...:?
 
Take 1, the XR mechanism will cause a slow build up which in turn will cause the liver to metabolize tramadol into more O-desmethyltramadol (the good metabolite). The XR version is better than the IR in my opinion.

As said before you can take up to 2 or even 3 of these pills spread throughout one day, (the max recommended daily dose is 400mg, but that's when you have some sort of tolerance) but i'd recommend not going over 200mg either.
 
Because as I explained, it takes a little longer to kick it, but the slow buildup in your system that XR provides causes more tramadol to be converted to O-desmethyltramadol in the liver. Which is the main metabolite of tramadol, alot more potent and a "cleaner" opioid.

In short; having tramadol already in your system causes the metabolization to O-DT to increase. This is why people often stagger their dose. (50mg, 30min, 50mg, 30min, 50mg, ... ) Well XR tabs do this for you without any bullshit of redosing to get the best result. That's why I prefer XR tramadol.
 
Did you have any success with them? I have the same kind and don't want to take them before I know they are real and safe. Any advice would be great.
 
I know this is bit outdated post, but I'm just gonna report my case.
When I first started taking tramadol, as an opioid naive person, I felt nothing from 100mg of zendol-sr tab. So I decided to double the dose. I usually take tramadol on 7:00, before I go to work; before or after the meal. I start to feel something after 8:00, bit energetic, yet euphoria has not reached its peak. In this point, you may feel like you're on stimulants. After 3hrs pass after the dose, you start to feel euphoria and stimulation. you take lunch and it may taste like shit when you're stimulant naive(All sort of amphetamines like; phentermine, phendimetrazine, phenmetrazine, epinephrine, etc.). However, smoking pot on it usually solves the problem. but after the meal, you most likely to feel nauseous on about 13:30 or 14:00(T+6:00~7:00) which means its peak has just reached. Taking a nap(which is hard without other substances like pot, benzos, soma etc. so I usually smoked pot or took one or two soma sometimes w/ xanax )or glass of milk is recommended. About one hour pass since the nausea begin, you feel the perfect part of this drug. Nausea is gone,(but might feel long headache from this point until the drug completely comes down) and euphoria slowly decreases from its peak for about 3 more hours, personally, it has been best moment for me so far. Though itchiness and fever-like symptoms starts to occur too, you'll be fine taking one or two DPH 25mg tabs(sold as sleep-aid OTC) or any other antihistamine of your choice. The drug completely settles down on about T+12:00, and the pleasant point IMO is T+2:00~5:00(more speed-like point) and T+7:00~T+10:00. Also, after building some tolerance to opioids, you'll find yourself going through higher doses without vomiting. First&Second time was worst IME, so don't easily give up on this uncontrolled gold very soon at your first week on Tramadol.

Plus, SR version seems to produce less side-effects than immediate release version. But since the onset is slow and the high is too long, you won't find it very hard to dose at the exact moment when you need it. But when you're OK to be under influence all along during working/at the school, for a recreational purpose, choose SR. Otherwise, when you just want to enjoy the night, take IR.

Tramadol-SR experience in chronological order:

T+0:00 take the pills.(Consider your weigh and tolerance for dosage, check out my example at the bottom)

T+1:00 start to feel bouncy and energetic. no side effects yet. Might feel thirsty at this point.

T+2:00 euphoria comes and feel like on speed. music starts sound better and anxiety goes away.

T+6:00~T+7:00 start to feel nauseous, especially when you took a meal. Headache and jitterish feeling lasts for less than an one hour, depending on individual's tolerance or system.(More tolerace, shorter and milder)

T+7:00 After the worst part of the trip is gone, euphoria is at on its peak and music sounds wonderful. It's like on DXM or MDMA with more hypnotic and numb, noddy feeling than energetic feeling. Enjoy this moment with your favorite activity. You can dance, listen to music, watch TV, or play video games.

T+10:00~T+12:00(depends on individuals and how many activities done) Start to feel like 'when will this high fucking end wtf' and at one point you realize that high was gradually decreasing time by time and that high has just finished. You feel tired and headache, nausea might strike you again. Tremor or cold sweat might accompany.

Also, at the vulnerable moment, nausea and headache seems to be magnified and provoked by smoking a cigarette or two. Which is why you should be careful because while under influence of Tramadol, many people crave smoking cigarette more than usual. It might seem to potentiate your high but it's ridiculous. All it does is increase the side-effects. I'd rather take 50mg or 100mg more for better experience. Tobacco is not recommended on the trip.

<Dosage model of Tramadol-SR>
tolerance naive, around 150lb:
100~150mg
tolerance naive, around 200lb or more:
150~200mg
little tolerance, around 150:
150~200mg
little tolerance, around 200 or more: 150~300mg
high tolerance, around 150:
200~400mg
high tolerance, around 200:
200~400mg

do not exceed 400mg dose daily. And in order to put up seizure threshold, taking benzos together will work nicely. Valium is mostly preferred, as its half time is long enough and slightly more euphoric than Xanax.

One last thing: this is recreational report of Tramadol SR. Medical dosage should be set by your physician, not by your laptop internet pharmacies.

Have a nice trip!
 
I know this is an old thread but it's my thread and I have another question. I took tramadol last night and I had very restless sleep and had some twitches or jerks while sleeping. I would like to take it again today but I'm concerned about the seizure risk. So: 1) if I took the last tramadol pill (IR not ER) at 9 pm last night, and it's now 9 AM, can I take a moderate dose now? 2) will Gabapentin reduce the seizure risk if I take it concurrently? Thank you.
 
What dose of tramadol are you taking? I always had a hard time sleeping with this drug because it makes me wired.
 
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