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Help tapering off of klonopin

tionchr

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I need help getting off klonopin. I get it from someone else without the consent of a doctor because it was helping me with sleep since I kept having panic attacks at night. I take 2mg a night. I want to stop because it’s not really helping with sleep anymore and obviously I don’t want to up my dose because I’ll just keep getting a tolerance to it. I’ve been taking it for about maybe 2 months tops. How should I taper back? Anyone have advice on how to do this right? I am scared of even going down .5 mg a week even. I really don’t want to be dependent on benzos again. Since I’ve only been on it a short while, maybe I could handle a rapid taper? But just to be safe I’d like to try and taper back over to e course of 2-3 weeks

Any advice is greatly appreciated!
 
Hey there

Depending on the time you were on it, you can drop with 0.25-5mg a week. There is gonna be wd's but the lower you get the dose to jump of from the less and quicker it will pass.

I have tapered benzo down a multiple of times ( own fault ) but for me when I do taper, I drop dose and feel when my body has adjusted to that dose and then drop again and the closer you get to the least amount needed the time in-between tapering down also gets shorter. Listen to your body.
 
There is gonna be wd's but the lower you get the dose to jump of from the less and quicker it will r
Do you mean I will experience withdrawal once I finally jump off completely, or each time I taper down like .25 a week?
 
Do you mean I will experience withdrawal once I finally jump off completely, or each time I taper down like .25 a week?
Both basically but the wd's will be less and less as you drop and when you climb of and let's say you get down to using only 0.250mg or even less 0.125mg then wds will be a breeze, just some rebound anxiety at the end maybe paws but think you won't even notice them.

I got myself off using 5mg lorazepam a day dropping 0.5mg every week to 2 weeks till I was at only using 0.5mg a day and jumped off and had very little wds, most rebound anxiety and restlessness but that was it. Actually went smooth.
 
This is a ruff one not knowing the exact cut-off date. A few things to consider :

-- talk with your PCP about Clonidine for increased stress levels, hard time sleeping, and rapid pulse when you get stressed
(you will need to study Clonidine, understand why it is Rx's on-label and off-label)
-- talk with the PCP about GAD. typically they want to avoid benzos first-line choice. they want to try Zoloft and Busbar which help considerably for me
-- if you can either fake or set a dental procedure where having some benzos would help with the procedure buy use them to ween the k-pins quickly with clonidine

A trickier route but worth its weight in gold is studying these disorders and making them sounds very intensive my help with a Rx benzo. Keep in mind asking your doctor for benzos is a bad idea b/c they are not first-line choice but are all resort after other options are exhausted. However, if the Dr will help treat your sleep issue a Z-drug will help with tapering the K-pin but the Z-drug 30 day count is 30qty for whatever Z-drug they choose. This next section can be added to the sleep issues or you can solely run with it after careful thought and studying what to say and what not to say to a doctor (I know this task well and you can hit me up on it) :

-- hypnagogic jerk

-- restless leg syndrome

-- night terrors

-- racing thought pre-sleep and if awaken have trouble going back to sleep

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Benzodiazepines are prescribed cautiously and primarily for short-term use due to the risk of dependence, withdrawal, and other side effects. Best-practice guidelines emphasize exploring non-pharmacological alternatives first, and if used, prescribing the lowest effective dose for the shortest duration, typically no more than 2 to 4 weeks.
Common uses
Doctors may prescribe benzodiazepines for the following conditions, typically when symptoms are severe or other treatments have failed:
  • Severe anxiety or panic disorder: To provide short-term relief during acute crises. Antidepressants are generally considered safer and more effective for long-term anxiety management.
  • Insomnia: Used for short-term treatment when sleep problems are severe or disabling. For chronic insomnia, non-pharmacological interventions like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) are recommended first.
  • Alcohol withdrawal: To manage and prevent severe and potentially life-threatening withdrawal symptoms such as seizures.
  • Seizures and epilepsy: Fast-acting benzodiazepines are used to stop prolonged convulsive seizures, especially in emergency situations.
  • Sedation: Used before surgery or other medical procedures to help with relaxation and anxiety.
  • Muscle spasms: To help with muscle relaxation.
Standard prescribing practices
Because benzodiazepines are controlled substances with a high potential for dependence, prescribers follow strict protocols:
  • Informed consent: Prescribers must inform the patient of the medication's risks, benefits, and potential for dependence and withdrawal symptoms.
  • Short-term and low-dose: The goal is to prescribe the lowest effective dose for the briefest possible time.
  • Monitoring and follow-up: Regular check-ins are crucial for monitoring effectiveness, side effects, and signs of dependence.
  • Consideration of alternatives: Before prescribing benzodiazepines, healthcare providers should consider behavioral therapies like CBT, other medications (such as antidepressants), and lifestyle adjustments.
  • Patient assessment: Prescribers must evaluate the patient's full medical history, including any prior substance misuse, as this can increase the risk of dependence.
 
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