Help my friend taper/detox off pills.

[kickme2go]

Hey guys, my best friend and I kind of had heart to heart tonight.

Anyways we have both been dabbling in pain pills of all varieties for the last year or so, and it has started to get more serious since this summer.

I would still consider myself a pretty moderate user, maybe once every 2 weeks, but enough to have more than a beginners tolerance.

I guess my friend has been using more and more, we've had this conversation before, because I noticed him using on a more regular basis than me. But he never really admitted it till tonight. I knew a problem was forming, but he is using more than I thought.

Anyways, we finally talked about what we should do. On my part, the only person I really get pills from is through him. So by him quiting I am too, it's a win win in a way. Plus I know he needs to be around people not doing them, that can support him, and I love the guy and feel I should be there for that.

The thing is, he has told me he is deep enough in that if he doesn't take them he gets withdraw and it interferes with his work. Says his body feels terrible and all that stuff.

I'm trying to get an idea of his habbits and I don't think he is using more than a couple percs or vikes a day, but he's just doin it every day.


So basically, I proposed that he quit using on Friday, so he then has Saturday and Sunday off to go through w/d. We were then thinking that I could hold on to a couple vikes and if he really really needs it before work I could give him one, but only one before work that day. I don't know if this is a good way to go about it.

I also know it's got to do a lot with him and he has to mean it and want it and I really think he does. He has A LOT of reason to quit, and he knows what he is doing to himself. That and I don't think he so far gone he can't get over the major w/d in a few days.

Any one have any input on this? Thanks.

 

[Bojangles69]

That sounds like a good idea and some longer users would love to be in the position he's at because realistically a couple percs a day isn't a lot.

Give him one before work, but I'd definitely keep more in your possession "just encase". If you feel like you can't hold them w/out using them, then maybe just 1 would be smart. But a weekend is really not enough time imo to get over the wd. If he goes back to work monday he still might be withdrawn and you might want to throw him like half a pill by then.

Ideally though, IF YOU CAN control your use and not use like you seem to, just keep like 4-5 on you and anytime he needs some continually cut the pills down and give him less.

Some people like to just stop cold but I'm an advocate of tapering no matter what the dose.
Last, another important thing. He's in a good spot already because a habit of that size he can literally just stop 100% then take like 6-8mg of imodium. The stuff you buy OTC for diarehea. Its an opiate that barely passes the blood brain barrier but it does stop like 90% of wds if you dose it right.
If he wanted to, the night before he goes to work he can swallow like 8mg of imodium then judge how he feels in the morning. If he feels good then don't even give him the perc. If he doesn't then he didn't take enough imodium and due to how long it takes to absorb just give him a perc so hes ready for work.
But imodium is a very useful OTC med for habits that small. I mean honestly if it was me I'd go
8mg imodium friday
6mg sat
5mg sun
4mg mon
3mg tues
2mg wed
1mg thurs
then off.

He might still get weak wds at he gets low on the imodium but it will water them down and draw them out a lot. Be sure to post back and let us know how it goes, theres a lot of other ways we can help you so don't hesitate to ask more questions when he needs help.

G/luck!