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Lostbeebabe

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About 2-3 months ago (started the beginning of August), I found myself getting a vivazen shot. Did those for a month, not daily but a couple times a week. Then I moved onto Opia Kratom extract tablets. These are not the 7oh tablets, but 150mg Kratom extract tablets. I did those for about a 2 months. I started only taking 1/2 pill at night. Then started taking 1/2 pill during the middle of the day and 1/2 pill at night. Most recently it’s been 1/2 pill three times a day. I need to stop as withdrawal affects have started to set it when I don’t take any. It’s been about 15 hours since my last dose and I’m struggling. I have the hot sweats and chills, stuffy/runny nose, irritable, and my back really hurts! I don’t have any access to comfort drugs like gabapentin or Xanax, etc. I do have my medical marijuana card. Does anybody have advice on how bad this withdrawal will be and how long it will last? Does anybody have advice on things that could help make the withdrawal a little easier? I got another pack of Opia so I can make a plan and prepare the next couple of days! I can’t let anyone around me know this is going on, so I have to try to cover this up! Any and all help is appreciated. The physical part of withdrawal is what scares me the most!
 
Lostbeebabe said:
About 2-3 months ago (started the beginning of August), I found myself getting a vivazen shot. Did those for a month, not daily but a couple times a week. Then I moved onto Opia Kratom extract tablets. These are not the 7oh tablets, but 150mg Kratom extract tablets. I did those for about a 2 months. I started only taking 1/2 pill at night. Then started taking 1/2 pill during the middle of the day and 1/2 pill at night. Most recently it’s been 1/2 pill three times a day. I need to stop as withdrawal affects have started to set it when I don’t take any. It’s been about 15 hours since my last dose and I’m struggling. I have the hot sweats and chills, stuffy/runny nose, irritable, and my back really hurts! I don’t have any access to comfort drugs like gabapentin or Xanax, etc. I do have my medical marijuana card. Does anybody have advice on how bad this withdrawal will be and how long it will last? Does anybody have advice on things that could help make the withdrawal a little easier? I got another pack of Opia so I can make a plan and prepare the next couple of days! I can’t let anyone around me know this is going on, so I have to try to cover this up! Any and all help is appreciated. The physical part of withdrawal is what scares me the most!
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Is Opia Kratom?!, I've only been/am addicted to a different opioid, but more Kratom would work.

Unless you don't want more opioid then maybe something like Benadryl, or Chlorpheniramine, maybe some DXM, but not in high dosages.

Imodium could work, but that's an opioid as well.

Poppy seeds sound like an option, but I've never tried them yet.

Smoking weed would be good for the withdrawals too, but don't go mixing all of those together now...
 
Lostbeebabe said:
About 2-3 months ago (started the beginning of August), I found myself getting a vivazen shot. Did those for a month, not daily but a couple times a week. Then I moved onto Opia Kratom extract tablets. These are not the 7oh tablets, but 150mg Kratom extract tablets. I did those for about a 2 months. I started only taking 1/2 pill at night. Then started taking 1/2 pill during the middle of the day and 1/2 pill at night. Most recently it’s been 1/2 pill three times a day. I need to stop as withdrawal affects have started to set it when I don’t take any. It’s been about 15 hours since my last dose and I’m struggling. I have the hot sweats and chills, stuffy/runny nose, irritable, and my back really hurts! I don’t have any access to comfort drugs like gabapentin or Xanax, etc. I do have my medical marijuana card. Does anybody have advice on how bad this withdrawal will be and how long it will last? Does anybody have advice on things that could help make the withdrawal a little easier? I got another pack of Opia so I can make a plan and prepare the next couple of days! I can’t let anyone around me know this is going on, so I have to try to cover this up! Any and all help is appreciated. The physical part of withdrawal is what scares me the most!
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Taper and switch to regular leaf/ don t expect to much from Cannabis.
Hits different receptor s. Tapering Kratom whole powdered leaf is easy ime.
It s no where as bad as people describe Opiods WD. [no experience]

1 st gen Anti-histamine s, Loperamide, DXM. Its Kratom.
Stopping that is more rewarding, then stopping Coffee.
Though Coffee you can substitute with the more relaxed Matcha.
Which is legal. Loaded with anti-oxidant s and l-Theanine,
way easier on your constitution. Tapering. And stop Coffee.

Ime use Cannabis [not extract s/ resin whatever]
For time sake. To maybe negotiate, the lack Kratom gives.
The restlessness/ insomnia. Lack of appetite.

The lack of motivation/ energy, it won t curb you 'bite the bullet'
 
emkee_reinvented said:
Taper and switch to regular leaf/ don t expect to much from Cannabis.
Hits different receptor s. Tapering Kratom whole powdered leaf is easy ime.
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This. If a person tapers plain leaf slowly it can be painless. Cannabis however does help me sleep in kratom withdrawal. It never could help much with the stronger and true opioids.

Lately I come to the board and read Kratom in the title. Yet these days it is talking about some new fangled concoction and here in 2025 I trust no one. Plain leaf, taper. I did that about 5 times. The body bounces back quick.
 
Lostbeebabe said:
About 2-3 months ago (started the beginning of August), I found myself getting a vivazen shot. Did those for a month, not daily but a couple times a week. Then I moved onto Opia Kratom extract tablets. These are not the 7oh tablets, but 150mg Kratom extract tablets. I did those for about a 2 months. I started only taking 1/2 pill at night. Then started taking 1/2 pill during the middle of the day and 1/2 pill at night. Most recently it’s been 1/2 pill three times a day. I need to stop as withdrawal affects have started to set it when I don’t take any. It’s been about 15 hours since my last dose and I’m struggling. I have the hot sweats and chills, stuffy/runny nose, irritable, and my back really hurts! I don’t have any access to comfort drugs like gabapentin or Xanax, etc. I do have my medical marijuana card. Does anybody have advice on how bad this withdrawal will be and how long it will last? Does anybody have advice on things that could help make the withdrawal a little easier? I got another pack of Opia so I can make a plan and prepare the next couple of days! I can’t let anyone around me know this is going on, so I have to try to cover this up! Any and all help is appreciated. The physical part of withdrawal is what scares me the most!
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im not sure if you have a local pcp that you can be cool with about the whole thing. I happen to get leftover scripts from my job some are helpful for W/Ds. Ropinirole (horrible for long term use) good for short term Restless leg pain and clonidine is a fan favorite for opiate withdrawal. First just know the longer it goes on the worse it will be. i was taking 30 capsules of white borneo in the AM and 30 Capsules in the PM. for severe pain for 6 years .just had an l4/l5 360 fusion so it was initially for the pain that required surgery. 31 days out today and its been the hardest bc not only do i not have my percoets that i should of gotten a few days ago said i had to wait until the 30th.(doctor actually called the CVS twice and got it bumped down to the 15th or 16. Yeah i admit my wife and I didnt read the paper bag it was in and on the bottle it says nothing for scripts bc we had gotten 3-4 scripts every 7-9 days from 40-60 perc 10s my wife was militant and off of work for 30 days and waking me up like she saw in the hospital them doing. every 4-5 hours . The doctor actually called me today and said it was a mistake on their part. They are giving me my final script on the 16th suppodly to ween off entirely. Back to the kratom , i made a bold move and snuck them in with me to the hospital, but also told them the morning of. Was deathly afraid of the pain meds not working after my surgery anethesia not working correctly for a fully under 5 hr surgery. Evetything i read and for 6 years of taking that much kratom i had to devise most genius plan to get them in their with me (Veggie and Fruit Caps together in seperate bottles was my trick. i had to have a 2nd veggie bottle to make the numbers work. MUST HAVE HUGE COMPUTER BAG. all that to say after 6 years of kratom taking 60-90 caps a day im down to 8am /8 pm a day. and no percs becuase of their mess up. that were definitely helping me. next week is 4 capsules AM / 4 Capsules PM. ive been out of percs since Monday and it has been hard with the less ammount BUT ITS ALL ABOUT THE PLAN, GIVING YOURSELF TIME, AND ALMOST LOCKING IT IN MENTALLLY. SO AFTER THIS final script im getting next Tuesday. that will be my last capsules and percocets. if you have someone like i did thtat you can trust with this info that would help. didnt tell my wife only told the anethesiologist the night befure and then the doctor came in mentioning it in front of my wife. SO it sucks. bit plan some things to do during the time. look at it as yyour plan to freedoom not sickness. sorry for the ramble, but just fired up that on monday i was so clsose to saying well you dont have your meds you need. gotta get back up to 30 caps two times a day. then ruin a 31 day plan in the works. hope this helps some and atleast i had a 6 year kratom addicition so it was old school capsules only alll i ever looked into. i dont know the kind you talk about but i do know the sickness fear. we either are the judge of when it happens or we are stopped bc we have lost control and need a 30 day seperation like jail or treatment. this can be entirely on your terms. hope this helps inspire you some. im up way past my bed time writing this bc sleep is hard to come by right now but its all good.
 
Of course he did; if she is on your contact and if she is allowed your medical info. If not lawsuit. If you are in America. Does she have permission?

The one problem is you volunteered info to the anesthesiologist. Check with a local ambulance chaser if you have a case.

Ironic, they are the doctors most likely to abuse drugs. Never trust any medical professional like that. Or worse the police.
 
She did say “health supplements” so it wasn’t crazy, but now they’re trying to make me look like I am a drug addict. The doctor finally admitted her mistake last night on the phone, but then blamed it on the pharmacy making the prescription for 30 days instead of all the other ones that were like 7 to 9 or 10 days. She did send me in a steroid pack and Journavx, but now I’m getting the “we are worried about you I think to cover their mistake. I only took it as prescribed same as the first three or four prescriptions but this one was for 30 days. I didn’t think that meant I had to change anything on. No one told me anything so then when she called me in a new one nine days later. It raised all sorts of flags and I started getting the drug addict speech and everyone’s worried about you. I switched pharmacies. I know that was probably stupid because they can’t transfer any narcotics, but this is top five one of the worst CVS’s in America. That doctor was on the phone with me for an hour last night while I was in CVS so she finally got to taste what I’ve been dealing with since day one. I commemd her for being on the phone with me after hours to try to help me, but still had to send the Journavx to Walmart, even though apparently earlier that day she had it set up and everything was good to go with the earlier pharmacist. I said that’s not gonna happen. I promise you we’ll go in there. I’ll stay on the phone with you. That turned into an hour and 15 minute phone call going back-and-forth with the nighttime pharmacist. I finally got my meds today, but I really think I’m getting the everyone’s worried about you. Red flags about trying to fill scripts early all to cover their own asses. I literally took it as I took the first four.. supposedly the script changed, but I didn’t know that because it’s not on the bottle it was only on the bag and I fucking ripped it off and threw it away. So I can see their concerns but at least glad that she took some ownership but then tried to blame the Pharmacy. No pharmacy is gonna change a doctors fucking prescription so here we are. I have not been sleeping the last three or four nights because of the pain. I emailed the office at 1:45 AM because I felt like I had no one else to talk to. That turned into erratic behavior and worried about you and how much valium do you have left more than i should bc I don’t even like this shit. Just trying to get this pain under control.

New update I switched everything to Kroger Pharmacy. I had enough with that CVS. I knew it was gonna be a problem with the narcotics, but who knows man that’ll show the doctor‘s office. I don’t care about that shit and I’m just trying to work on this pain.
 
By the way, I sent them an email before i got that 30’day script bc I wanted to do it for 30 days to try to save some money through insurance. Isurprise surprise CVS only does 90 days.

My theory is the office assistant is in charge of that did what I asked her for the time before that script. The doc knows it wasn’t the pharmacy which means it can only be the office assistant who did it.

So of course, I’ve been out of pain meds early. My wife went back to work on Monday who had been caring for me for the first 30 days. So yeah, they freaked out when I sent an email at 1:45 cause I felt like I didn’t wanna stress my wife out more bc was I was truly in pain and not sleeping. That all the sudden changed everyone’s tone.

Also specific phrases were mentioned in my call with the doctor last night from my emails. I’m only talking about like 5-6 by the way …….. I asked if it could have something to do for me requesting the 30 days she had no idea that was asked for right before it happened…mind you to save a few bucks. Anyway, rent done. I have a steroid and I have Journavx now, also I’m an Addict, everyone there is worried abour me. I had pneumonia for like 10 days. I think I still have symptoms so 31 days in 10 days being like totally bedridden with fever.. I’m at day 21 and I felt like shit since Monday, but gonna stick to my kratom plan. I felt stuck for six years, for trips and so much life stuff so I’d rather sit in pain, be viewed as a drug addict, and an annoying client than start that shit over and for someone to cover their own ass.

That’s my rant. I’m done for the day. Thanks for listening out. At least you guys understand possibly
 
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