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margo63

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Im quiting percocets in 2 days because its all i have left and i want to quit but need help,right now Im worried about the withdrawals,Ive been taking like one day i would take 8 pills nd be ok with that then others i would take over 10.i have a high tolerance because I used to takje Norco 10`s for a long time and then 28th went to a pain clinic and was switched to percocet.I have very bad problems with my back and knee as well as a hernia that they only check to see if ity needs operated on. my back is my problem and why i was put on these drugs.I was on the bnorco this last time from the 24th september then ran out ibn 2-3 maybe 4 days as he only gave me 28 pills enough to get me through until i got to the pain clinic and then theb 28th septenmber i was given 120 percocets and went through the first week taking 10 pills a day or more until i was down to 51 -61 pills then gave to a friend to give to me and all this last week he gave me 6-8 pills because of the large doses i was taking,now that i have 2 days left what can i expect to happen to me, Im very scared and know i need help,i do need something for pain but something i cant snort,when i snort i do so many too many,i feel so stuopid for letting myself go this farn as to have to worry about withdrawals when i should be enjoying my son and helping help as he has downs but very loveable and he is my life.please tell me how bad is it gonna be,i have to pick up my son at his busstop everyday and bring him home. Im so scared:?
 
hey there, i am also fairly new, and im goin thru a very similar thing with crystal meth... but before this shit i was very seriously addicted to opiates for a lil over a year and had around 15 - 20 withdrawals... i can tell you that yea they are scary, but it has to be done, sense you dont seem to be taking any strong opiates like morphine or fentanyl you will hurt after stopping but you will live and for me even after 2 or 3 month binges i would be fine after 72 hours of hell... the best thing to do it be with someone who is very positive and wants you to also be clean... also for me the metal part of the WD was the worst, like thinking it will never end! i would even sometimes write a not to myself before WD saying and reminding myself IT WILL END! and i know you wont want to eat but its important... also lots of clear fluids! that is extremely important (especially if you are vomiting alot, i know that you will be in physical pain to because of your back problem and that you will have to find help for from a DR or someone else here, i took the drugs to escape metal pain.

I really had to add this what mg percs? a lil more decription please...

please what ever you do dont take more while in WD to feel better you are only postponing the unavoidable!

you will make it!

the amount that you took a day im my opinion was not a really high dose, maybe more than average but in the depths of my addiction to opioids i took 6 to 8 100mg ER morphine tabs or separately wear 2 100mirogram fyntenly patches back to back for weeks!
 
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I was taking 10 mg of percocets and before I gave them to my ex husband I had taken all but 51 to 41 out of 120 in just afew short days,I did take 300mg of neurotin and felt much better today I just wish rhey help me and dont start me to shaking like they ve done before,Im kinda tryimg to take what was prescribed to me cause when i woke this morning after taking 300 mg of neurotin i felt good like i didnt need anything but i did take 1-10 mg pill for pain and ask the doctor this morning for ultram cause on top of everything else i have a UTI. Thankyou so much for your reply,I can use all the support i can get as I really can get it here,this morning my ex called me a junkie,i am not a junkie Im only a person with lots of pain trying seek help for it.
 
It would be good if you could tell us the daily average amount (in mg) of percocet you've been taking. You keep giving us very unspecific numbers, such as 51/61 "in a short time" which tell us really nothing. Figure out how many pills you take a day on average, multiply that by the MG per pill, and then tell us that number. We will be able to give you a more accurate idea of what is in store, relative to our own experiences.

From what I am understanding, you are NOT taking an "high" amount; I mean to say that you were not taking several hundreds of milligrams of oxycodone per day, which is what many of us have gone through (for extended periods of time) and withdrawn from. Having said that however, it is sort of relative. What that means is that the withdrawal for you will feel so bad because it is the ONLY withdrawal you've gone through: you will have no frame of reference to compare it to, so your brain might think it is worse than it truly is.

What I believe you are in store for, if I am guessing the right average daily dose for you, are some fairly mild withdrawals. It will effectively feel like you have the regular old flu. Opiate withdrawals are routinely compared to the flu, and severe ones are effectively the worst flu possible times about 1000 with a whole slew of other additional effects that the flu does not present (psychological, such as mood swings and emotional sensitivity, the desire to do more, etc).

At the amount youre taking, expect the psychological aspect of CRAVINGS, along with the flu. If my assumptions are correct, for you it will feel like the flu with a strong desire to take more, nothing more. It will NOT be fun, thats for sure, but it will not be as horrible as doing a bundle of heroin a day, or 200mg/oxyMORPHONE daily. You will "be sick with the flu": that is what you should tell people, as for you the effects will be virtually identical save the fact that you can end being sick by taking more pills.

That is going to be the hardest part: knowledge that you can end your suffering. Imagine if, when sick with the flu, there was a pill you could take to instantly make the suffering end. That is the scenario that will be presented: you will be feeling a bit under the weather; nose will be running; your back will ache a bit; etc. Once again I will stress it will not be unduly bad for you: if you've ever had the flu before, thats basically how you will feel. But the knowledge that you can END your feeling bad by simply taking a pill makes it inherently worse. There is a very easy, simple, solution to end your pain, and effort is needed that you do NOT take these pills; you in essence have to CHOOSE being sick because in the long term it will be better. Something insanely difficult when you feel that way, as we humans enjoy immediate gratification.

As the above poster said, taking some to rid yourself of withdrawal, unless done via a well thought out, well executed taper (good luck doing that....), will only prolong the inevitable. It will make you "not sick" for a little while, and then? Then you are back to square one.

As tempting as it will be to rid yourself of the sick feelings, it will in fact only make you sick for a LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, as your body will have to "start over" both by ridding itself of the opiates, and start endorphin production over back at 0. There is a complex explanation involved, but in laymans terms: your body stops making endorphins ("happy chemical") while on opiates; you stop taking them, your body is not producing more, and it takes X amount of time to start up again. If you keep taking opiates, even in miniscule amounts, your body does not ramp up production of natural endorphins to the same extent, and it will just keep pushing that day back further and further and further.

If you have no intentions of getting off the opiates, then this advice is really irrelevant. This is only relavent if you seek to lower your tolerance and/or get off the opiate train completely. If this is your desire, make it easy on yourself by making it harder on yourself. What this means is: do not take opiates just to rid yourself of the pain.

If you seek only to get by till your script gets refilled, by all means, take whatever to make the pain stop. If that is the scenario you are in, then you are only trying to "get by" until then, nothing more. In this scenario tolerance is irrelevant, it does not matter whether or not you do so because you will get more again. BUT once again, if you DO seek to lower your tolerance, and lower the amount of drugs you take daily, then you gotta push through those few days.

Now, as for what you can do to ameliorate the withdrawals, there exist a SLEW of threads on making them more bareable. I have in fact written quite extensively on the topic myself in a few threads, and I will post a link to one as well as a quick bit of my own personal input here:

-advil. Specifically a med containing ibuprofen
-Cold medicine that contains DXM
-eating whatever you can. Some people will say to ONLY eat healthy, ONLY eat this and that, I say bollocks: eating is hard enough in withdrawals, don't make it harder by limiting what you can eat. eat anything you can keep down: candy, ice cream, apples, vegetables, bread. Whatever you can keep down, get it down. You need the energy regardless of the food source
-stretching
-hot showers
-EXERCISE!!!! I know its hard to exercise when you feel horrible, but even if you can get up and walk for 10 freakin minutes, do it. It is so vital that honestly its almost a requirement to kicking opiates. Generally speaking, people who fail to start exercising as they take less and less opiates simply end up taking more again. Exercise ramps up those "happy chemicals" that I previously talked about, and will get you feeling better MUCH more rapidly. Plus, the exercise tires you out so that you may...
-sleep. Depending on the severity of withdrawals sleep can either be impossible, or merely difficult. Sleep as much as you can because a) while youre sleeping you're skipping that much time of withdrawals and b) because its so hard to come by, your body NEEDS it in order to get healthy faster

I know its counter intuitive to suggest exercise and sleep. But the exercise makes the sleep possible if its out of your grasp.

Hope I've been of some assistance. Good luck, stay strong, and remember: redosing puts you back at square 1. If you are not seeking to get to square 10 then it really doesn't matter, redose at will. But, if you seek to loosen the chains the opiate demon has around you, then fight that urge.

Opiate withdrawal thread. Click here.
 
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i see,still not real sure how much your are taking at a time or in an extended period of time, describe thoroughly please. well i can tell you the best thing you can do is stop taking them ASAP, i understand you have real pain, maybe it can be managed with NSAIDS like tylenol or ibuprofen. What im getting at is that the sooner you start the withdrawal the sooner and less harsh it will be... and in all of my experiences, weaning or "tapering" down has little effect. to actually taper down from long term daily use is to do it in 1 month to 2 week periods cutting out small amounts over a 3-5 month period for me it tapered for a YEAR! but i can absolutely promise no matter how you feel you will not die and IT WILL PASS... please note what i said about having positive people around you, that is more important than i can even stress!! is there anywhere that you can go for 3 days to a week possibly? even a detox center? i know that doesn't sound fun but in most cases like mine they will provide suboxone to ease the pain.

Also there are drugs you may hear about that help with WD (not suboxone), i have tried them... and trust me the withdrawal WILL happen no matter what you do taking other pills will only postpone until you run out of those pills. Dont get caught in this loop not fun!

i do not know your complete story, the way i understand i do not perceive you as a junkie


understand and dont underestimate the withdrawl, it will be a very extream feeling of complete anguish... i am in no way telling you that to worry you ( look what i wrote, u will live and it will pass) but you must know what ur headed into. this will be a very good leason for you i believe. AND when its over its feels SOOO good you will feel a huge weight lift ( not saying your done with it all good to go move on) you will be glad ur clear headed, thats how i felt at least!
 
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Is it possible for you to go to a place where you can withdrawal safely with medical professionals, and get treatment where you'll learn tools how to stay sober? Also tell your doctor that you want to get off of the opiates. Either way good luck.

I know it sounds corny but get into meditation, even yoga, and keep in mind that pain is a state of mind.
 
Thanks everyone for posting,if it gets bad enough i will go to a detox place,but Im gonna try to stick it out and go through it.Yesterday I took only 3 pills and I was ok,but I was also taking neuriotin. I started taking that cause i heard neurotin will help with the withdrawals,wow i used to read so much of the posts here but never joined.Now here I am.I wish its not a bad one.I hate the feeling i get in my head,ears ringing bad,i cant explain the other noices i hear in my head when i withdrwaled off of Norco 10. I took so many oxycotin ,last summer and didnt have any withdrawals and sometimes with the norco 10 i wouldnt have anything withdrawals when i was doing alot.I dont think i have went over 11-15 pills because i was afraid of the tylenol in it and I never throw up its always my head feeling strange and the anxiety. I do sweat alot in withdrawal and i cant think very well. I hope this one isnt that bad.
 
Taking over ten perc tens or norcos will absolutely cause some uncomfortable withdrawals, but it sounds like you're tapering which is the best thing you can do...granted it's not going to be like detoxing from g's of iv heroin or 200mg oxymorphone (unfortunately. I have done both) but like the other posters said, you will live. Try to get some type of sleep aid, cause the not sleeping is what can make all the difference in the world. And get some lmmodium, cause your guts will be churnin! Good luck it really is no way to live, these pills that the fucking doctors we trust give us turn us into drug addicts. Bunch of shit...research natural ways to deal with pain, diet and exercise can play a huge role in the way our bodies feel day to day. Good luck hang in there....
 
I tapered down to 20mg a day and going to stop as i have only 3 pills left.I was taking 10 to 15 pills a day 111mgs to 115. I usually take for awhile then Im outa pills,last night something bad happened,I was having panic attacks from hell and then i couldnt get to sleep,today i feel better just scared the same thing will happened like lastnight,I have been ok with the taper until lastnight and i dont think it was from the oxy,maybe the neurotin i thought would be good for me and took for fewe days at 300mg then stopped.Ive had withdrawals before with my norco and just needed to know if i taper down how bad would it be with the oxy.I havent taken them long only since September 28th 2012.I never take them long but still have withdrawals as it was with my norco but i was on the norco forco less than a week when the doctor changed me to oxy last September.I tapered with what i could and been doing that all week.i wish it works.
 
I do feel better today,I think I went through mild withdraws but Im scared of the little I did once a day throughout this week.I did 20mg all week from taking,snorting from 80 to 115 mg a day all day and all night sometimes.Ive had alittle oxy in my system all week but tappered down,but what I felt lastnight was noooooo opiate withdrawal,maybe it was the neurotin that i took afew days twice a day then stoped.I dont know what it was but happy its gone for now anyway. I also take klonopin 2mgs 4x day for epilespy that Ive takin for...um... 20 - 21 years and by no means do i want to try to go down that road again of trying to get off.Like Stevie nicks said "it felt like someone droped me in hell" something along those lines. I have sezures and when they take me off I have seizures bad and my bloodpressure goes crazy. I will say my back hurts and sadly i cant take nsaids pain meds for it because they gave me ulcers. So what am I to do live each month worring about withdrwals i dont want that,hell nobody wants that its hell.Just would like to know during withdrawals has anyone experienced buzzing in the head? I do or did with one of mine or something like brain zaps,i was also stopping the ultrams at the time cold turkey.I was on the ultrams for very longtime until the last w/d i omly take them if i really need. They are addictive very addictive a mild opiate that did cause me withdrawals that I will never forget.
 
I have experienced brain zaps during withdrawal from klonopin, but not during opiate withdrawal.

I do feel better today,I think I went through mild withdraws but Im scared of the little I did once a day throughout this week.I did 20mg all week from taking,snorting from 80 to 115 mg a day all day and all night sometimes.Ive had alittle oxy in my system all week but tappered down,but what I felt lastnight was noooooo opiate withdrawal,maybe it was the neurotin that i took afew days twice a day then stoped.I dont know what it was but happy its gone for now anyway. I also take klonopin 2mgs 4x day for epilespy that Ive takin for...um... 20 - 21 years and by no means do i want to try to go down that road again of trying to get off.Like Stevie nicks said "it felt like someone droped me in hell" something along those lines. I have sezures and when they take me off I have seizures bad and my bloodpressure goes crazy. I will say my back hurts and sadly i cant take nsaids pain meds for it because they gave me ulcers. So what am I to do live each month worring about withdrwals i dont want that,hell nobody wants that its hell.Just would like to know during withdrawals has anyone experienced buzzing in the head? I do or did with one of mine or something like brain zaps,i was also stopping the ultrams at the time cold turkey.I was on the ultrams for very longtime until the last w/d i omly take them if i really need. They are addictive very addictive a mild opiate that did cause me withdrawals that I will never forget.


Maybe those weird head feelings are withdrawal from klonopin?
Getting stuck in opiate taking it could be very easy to regularly take klonopin and not realize you are making your body dependent on it also. That or its the neurotin? Did that stuff help at all?
I have a friend that gave me two of them, since I told him I was gonna w/d.

Anyway, you really are psyching yourself out a little too much!!! It isn't going to be as bad as your thinking, and if you think it will, it will only make it worse. I wish you luck and I'm in a similar situation.
 
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