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Found the forum searching for info on the differences between amphetamine salts and meth.
I was prescribed amphetamine salts about 10 years ago. This was from a diagnosis of ADHD but I have since been told that it’s likely that I have developmental trauma disorder and that often comes with the same symptoms.
It started with 10mg, then 10mg, twice a day, then 30mg XR.
I recently tried to lower the dosage after a surgery to deal with some other meds I was taking, went back to 10mg twice a day for 2 months. was working ok until recently and now I’m back to the 30mg XR.

I have been feeling light headed with it but I’m thinking it’s from not eating enough.
I’m in my mid 40’s, married over 20 years with an adult and 2 teens.

is 30mg a lot in a day? What’s typical?
 
Hi, welcome!!! I’m not sure if it’s too much but fir comparison my son who is a child, takes 18mg XR. Plus 5 more in the afternoon during the school year. It’s seems that your dose isn’t too much more and considering you’re much bigger it’s probably just fine. They’ve discussed raising my sons so I’d imagine your just fine. However if it doesn’t feel ok, talk to your Dr!!! Good luck to you!
 
30mg is on the upper end of a therapeutic spectrum. Only people with other conditions such as narcolepsy would be prescribed more than that.

Long term amphetamine use can have some nasty effects, even in your case where you are not abusing it but taking it as prescribed.

Are you having any other issues besides feeling light headed? How is your blood pressure?
 
30mg is on the upper end of a therapeutic spectrum. Only people with other conditions such as narcolepsy would be prescribed more than that.

Long term amphetamine use can have some nasty effects, even in your case where you are not abusing it but taking it as prescribed.

Are you having any other issues besides feeling light headed? How is your blood pressure?
Blood pressure has always been good. I have some really good genetics as far as longevity in the family. All my numbers have been good however, I’m have struggled with depression since I was a 12 and have changed up meds a lot lately and I’m under more stress than I have ever been in my life. It’s quite a bit to deal with and I’m not really sure what I should be doing. My dr really isn’t that helpful tbh.
Im kinda feeling lost and alone right now.
Sorry for getting a bit personal.
 
30mg is on the upper end of a therapeutic spectrum. Only people with other conditions such as narcolepsy would be prescribed more than that.

Long term amphetamine use can have some nasty effects, even in your case where you are not abusing it but taking it as prescribed.

Are you having any other issues besides feeling light headed? How is your blood pressure?
Also, what other long term affects? What is long term? 😳
 
Blood pressure has always been good. I have some really good genetics as far as longevity in the family. All my numbers have been good however, I’m have struggled with depression since I was a 12 and have changed up meds a lot lately and I’m under more stress than I have ever been in my life. It’s quite a bit to deal with and I’m not really sure what I should be doing. My dr really isn’t that helpful tbh.
Im kinda feeling lost and alone right now.
Sorry for getting a bit personal.

We are all friends here. Nobody is going to judge you for getting personal. Hell I've been wayyyy to personal on here a few times... Enough to get me arrested.

Amphetamines can definitely aggravate things like stress, depression and anxiety and on the flip side can also make them worse when quitting long term use. I've been prescribed Adderall several times in my life, I would almost always abuse it and take 50-80mg doses until my bottle was empty. I'm just that type of guy. A drug fiend. I can't help myself.

I've also been on many 1-4 week methamphetamine binges.

Meth/amphetamines can and will do terrible things to your brain.

They give my sister dissociation and psychosis. I have also experienced psychosis from meth. Not fun and scary.

What is your plan here? Are you just trying to alleviate stress and depression? Pointing the finger at your amphetamine use is certainly a good start but it's going to be a battle regardless.

I wish I could give you some more advice but I've never been a stim guy, I have a lot more experience with downers from heroin to alcohol.
Hopefully someone chimes in. I've experienced heavy depression after meth binges but I'm not experienced with long term use.

Welcome to BL, we're all friends here.
 
Usually ends with psychosis, depression, anxiety and other nasty things. Amphetamines shock your nervous system and dopamine system. Dopamine plays more roles than just making you feel good.
Well, since we are getting personal and it’s ok, I’ll go all in...brace yourself...
I’m sure many have had it much worse but this is an overview of my life story.



I was diagnosed with dyslexia and ADHD at 12, and later, developmental trauma disorder. i was held back a year and put into special ed classes with kids who were actually mentally disabled.
My teachers told me I was stupid and would never amount to anything, no mentor who took me under their wing and believed in me, no one helped me.
I was given 3rd and 4th grade math and English books, never taught grammar or algebra.
My father would tell me regularly how the dr came out to the waiting room to tell him that I would either “be born dead or retarded”.
I barely graduated high school, despite a few teachers that wanted to flunk me, the principal said it would be pointless to keep me coming back each year.
I always worked hard and had several jobs, starting at age 12. When I was 17, I was working for a company as a fill in cook when they needed help. The IT director took a liking to me and asked if I would want to work after school and on weekends. I had no clue what I was doing but wanted to make money.
That began my IT career, I had to work harder and longer than everyone else but I leveraged my “charming personality” (something most in IT didn’t have) to my advantage. Apparently, when you have dyslexia and ADHD as well as developmental trauma disorder (I didn’t tell anyone, any of this, I was embarrassed) you don’t fit well in the highly structured corporate world. I went through, the dotcom bubble bust, 9/11/01 and the 08 housing crisis. I was laid off and or fired 6 times in 10 years. I asked myself many times why I was putting myself through this pain. The answer came in 2010 when I started my IT company.
i went through a windshield at 17, had at least a dozen concussions from car & bike accidents, football, wrestling, etc...I have had 5 surgeries, the most recent was a severe jaw surgery.
I have chronic pain, neck, back, hip and leg, have been taking Percocet daily for 7 years, was taking around 30-60mg a day as well as 30mg adderall, 20mg lexapro, 3mg Xanax, the dr switched my lexapro to Prozac for 6 months.
I started having blackouts and apparently was yelling unkind things at my wife and was very moody, I didn’t remeber the fights and it almost cost me my marriage, although that may till happen. At this point I stopped the Prozac, adderall and Xanax entirely, lowers the Percocet to no more than 30mg a day. I went back on lexapro for 2 months and hated it, stopped that entirely again.
I had to start back on the Xanax 1mg at bed time only, has to do with my jaw and relaxing the muscles as I’m causing damage to the bone. This is where I am now, still extremely stressed but mostly functional.
If I didn’t have kids, I would have ended it a long time ago.
I realize this sounds like a pity party and please know I’m not looking for that.

ps. How do you “like” someone post?
 
ps. How do you “like” someone post?

Welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing your story. I don’t think brand new members can like other posts until they have posted a certain number of their own posts - I want to say 50? In Australia 30 mg a day of amphetamine sulfate (dexamfetamine) is the maximum normal therapeutic dose and what I have been taking for about 4 years. I’ve never had any side effects and never needed to increase the dose in order to resolve my ADHD issues. However, I do take meth recreationally in significantly larger doses. Based on experience I now recommend that people with ADHD/ADD don’t mess with meth - it becomes so moreish because it makes you feel so normal and right.
 
Welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing your story. I don’t think brand new members can like other posts until they have posted a certain number of their own posts - I want to say 50? In Australia 30 mg a day of amphetamine sulfate (dexamfetamine) is the maximum normal therapeutic dose and what I have been taking for about 4 years. I’ve never had any side effects and never needed to increase the dose in order to resolve my ADHD issues. However, I do take meth recreationally in significantly larger doses. Based on experience I now recommend that people with ADHD/ADD don’t mess with meth - it becomes so moreish because it makes you feel so normal and right.
Thank you for the info.
I have never bought any drugs illegally and Im not planning to start, just seems to risky for my situation and quite frankly, I don’t even m know where I would get it.
 
Well, since we are getting personal and it’s ok, I’ll go all in...brace yourself...
I’m sure many have had it much worse but this is an overview of my life story.



I was diagnosed with dyslexia and ADHD at 12, and later, developmental trauma disorder. i was held back a year and put into special ed classes with kids who were actually mentally disabled.
My teachers told me I was stupid and would never amount to anything, no mentor who took me under their wing and believed in me, no one helped me.
I was given 3rd and 4th grade math and English books, never taught grammar or algebra.
My father would tell me regularly how the dr came out to the waiting room to tell him that I would either “be born dead or retarded”.
I barely graduated high school, despite a few teachers that wanted to flunk me, the principal said it would be pointless to keep me coming back each year.
I always worked hard and had several jobs, starting at age 12. When I was 17, I was working for a company as a fill in cook when they needed help. The IT director took a liking to me and asked if I would want to work after school and on weekends. I had no clue what I was doing but wanted to make money.
That began my IT career, I had to work harder and longer than everyone else but I leveraged my “charming personality” (something most in IT didn’t have) to my advantage. Apparently, when you have dyslexia and ADHD as well as developmental trauma disorder (I didn’t tell anyone, any of this, I was embarrassed) you don’t fit well in the highly structured corporate world. I went through, the dotcom bubble bust, 9/11/01 and the 08 housing crisis. I was laid off and or fired 6 times in 10 years. I asked myself many times why I was putting myself through this pain. The answer came in 2010 when I started my IT company.
i went through a windshield at 17, had at least a dozen concussions from car & bike accidents, football, wrestling, etc...I have had 5 surgeries, the most recent was a severe jaw surgery.
I have chronic pain, neck, back, hip and leg, have been taking Percocet daily for 7 years, was taking around 30-60mg a day as well as 30mg adderall, 20mg lexapro, 3mg Xanax, the dr switched my lexapro to Prozac for 6 months.
I started having blackouts and apparently was yelling unkind things at my wife and was very moody, I didn’t remeber the fights and it almost cost me my marriage, although that may till happen. At this point I stopped the Prozac, adderall and Xanax entirely, lowers the Percocet to no more than 30mg a day. I went back on lexapro for 2 months and hated it, stopped that entirely again.
I had to start back on the Xanax 1mg at bed time only, has to do with my jaw and relaxing the muscles as I’m causing damage to the bone. This is where I am now, still extremely stressed but mostly functional.
If I didn’t have kids, I would have ended it a long time ago.
I realize this sounds like a pity party and please know I’m not looking for that.

ps. How do you “like” someone post?

Everyone has different stories to tell, we're all a bit crazy and freakish here and everyone helps each other. That's why I love this place. Percs + xanax + amphetamines + prozac is definitely quite the cocktail. Sounds like what was my normal daily routine at many points in my life, but I buy illegal drugs.

Are you still on percs + xanax + amphetamines?

What exactly are you looking for advice on so we can better advise you? Are you trying to quit or are you trying to deal with other mental health issues?

And yeah, you need 50 posts before you can like/react to other posts.
 
Yes,
Everyone has different stories to tell, we're all a bit crazy and freakish here and everyone helps each other. That's why I love this place. Percs + xanax + amphetamines + prozac is definitely quite the cocktail. Sounds like what was my normal daily routine at many points in my life, but I buy illegal drugs.

Are you still on percs + xanax + amphetamines?

What exactly are you looking for advice on so we can better advise you? Are you trying to quit or are you trying to deal with other mental health issues?

And yeah, you need 50 posts before you can like/react to other posts.
I’m on 20mg percs, 30 adderall and 1mg xanex.
I’m just trying to get in a better place to function each day.
 
Yes,

I’m on 20mg percs, 30 adderall and 1mg xanex.
I’m just trying to get in a better place to function each day.

That's not that bad, at least your use is controlled and considered therapeutic doses, but these are all drugs you don't want to be on long term. If your use is controlled that's great, but even 1mg of xanax after years does terrible things to your brain.

I would start first by assessing your general physical and mental health. How is your nutrition and do you exercise? That's a great place to start before you even think about getting off the drugs. I would first focus on getting healthy and start exercising. Exercise is HUGE when it comes to not just physical but mental health as well.

I'm going to sleep but I will check in on this thread tomorrow. Maybe someone else can chime in.

And welcome to BL!
 
That's not that bad, at least your use is controlled and considered therapeutic doses, but these are all drugs you don't want to be on long term. If your use is controlled that's great, but even 1mg of xanax after years does terrible things to your brain.

I would start first by assessing your general physical and mental health. How is your nutrition and do you exercise? That's a great place to start before you even think about getting off the drugs. I would first focus on getting healthy and start exercising. Exercise is HUGE when it comes to not just physical but mental health as well.

I'm going to sleep but I will check in on this thread tomorrow. Maybe someone else can chime in.

And welcome to BL!
Unfortunately, in part due to my injuries and surgeries I’m fat and unable to really get back to decent shape. I know I need to desperately lose 65lbs 😢
 
Unfortunately, in part due to my injuries and surgeries I’m fat and unable to really get back to decent shape. I know I need to desperately lose 65lbs 😢

Are you completely disabled? I know what its like to be extremely out of shape after working in IT myself. 12 hours a day sitting in cars and at computers only to go home and sit at a computer for another 6 hours, then sleep. I was SERIOUSLY out of shape and caused a lot of physical and mental health problems. Sedentary lifestyle kills and makes you suffer!

Can you walk? Swim? Lift a few light weights? There is somewhere you can start surely. If you can move part of your body you can exercise. Start slow! I've torn my groin and pulled muscles when my motivation caused me to push my body too hard when I was very out of shape and unhealthy.
 
Are you completely disabled? I know what its like to be extremely out of shape after working in IT myself. 12 hours a day sitting in cars and at computers only to go home and sit at a computer for another 6 hours, then sleep. I was SERIOUSLY out of shape and caused a lot of physical and mental health problems. Sedentary lifestyle kills and makes you suffer!

Can you walk? Swim? Lift a few light weights? There is somewhere you can start surely. If you can move part of your body you can exercise. Start slow! I've torn my groin and pulled muscles when my motivation caused me to push my body too hard when I was very out of shape and unhealthy.
Not completely disabled, I can walk, albeit painful right now as I am trying to figure out a disk issue, I am supposed to get an mri this week.
 
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