Dtergent
Bluelight Crew
Ah, well it's not important anyway, at least not as much as practical experience!
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Healthy Living starts in the garden...
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jam uh weezy
Bluelighter
Lookin good lookin good mr p. i like your setup! do upload the rest dtergent, those nanners look tasty.
clamjuice, with zuchini, and most plants with "big" seeds, you can just drop them straight in the soil. hey tend to have a high success rate, it makes for less hassle and you can use the peat pots for other things.
I do usually take other plants out of the peat pots tho, to not restrict growth. very carefully. i dunno if it really makes a difference, but I like to think so. I have messed them up before, accidentally damaging roots systems. usually they will pick back up, but their growth seems a bit stunted. BUT some plants absolutely do not like transplanting, you'll realize which ones quickly. also when seedlings sprout i usually just pinch off the two 'weaker' ones like mehm, but that is just my preference, as i don't like bothering to untangle the intertwining roots. I find that the plants who show fast growth early on usually carry that on later in their life, and are bigger than the others would be. show us some pics!
clamjuice, with zuchini, and most plants with "big" seeds, you can just drop them straight in the soil. hey tend to have a high success rate, it makes for less hassle and you can use the peat pots for other things.
I do usually take other plants out of the peat pots tho, to not restrict growth. very carefully. i dunno if it really makes a difference, but I like to think so. I have messed them up before, accidentally damaging roots systems. usually they will pick back up, but their growth seems a bit stunted. BUT some plants absolutely do not like transplanting, you'll realize which ones quickly. also when seedlings sprout i usually just pinch off the two 'weaker' ones like mehm, but that is just my preference, as i don't like bothering to untangle the intertwining roots. I find that the plants who show fast growth early on usually carry that on later in their life, and are bigger than the others would be. show us some pics!
Dtergent
Bluelight Crew
My native corn is starting to bear corn much shorter than the "golden sweet corn", possibly making it resilient to the winds of the mountains where I took it. It's literally just two feet tall, while the grocery seed one is taller than me.
Dtergent
Bluelight Crew
About thirty feet apart from each other 
I hope to see them in their selves before they start fucking each other up.
I hope to see them in their selves before they start fucking each other up.
Nibiru
Bluelighter
I used to have a cart showing different plants and distances apart they have to be to avoid outcrossing, along with a bunch of other by-species seed saving info. I might still have it actually. I just haven't seen it for a while. I know that with corn you have to keep them two kilometers apart. Some things like peas and many types of beans are self-pollinating, and peppers and tomatoes are mostly self-pollinating, although some outcrossing does happen due to bees and whatnot.
Dtergent
Bluelight Crew
^You mean a card? 
There are directions on this Kokopelli seed-saving book I have lent to someone, I remember they involved distances and nets and all that stuff. It's all very interesting!
I just don't have the resources to manage a very large area, though I do wish I could! I mix everything up and try to make the areas compact so I can get to them well. I have loads of flowers now and I'm sure it's quite a party there..
There are directions on this Kokopelli seed-saving book I have lent to someone, I remember they involved distances and nets and all that stuff. It's all very interesting!I just don't have the resources to manage a very large area, though I do wish I could! I mix everything up and try to make the areas compact so I can get to them well. I have loads of flowers now and I'm sure it's quite a party there..
Nibiru
Bluelighter
I meant a chart. I maintain a few plant varieties. some I just sort of let cross and evolve to my garden, bringing in new genes (like I do with my spinach) and some are heirloom varieties that I keep pure. I've got a pretty small area too. Stuff like tomatoes and beans like I said are super easy.
Nibiru
Bluelighter
...but to do tomatoes, you have to let the seed pulp ferment in a container with some water for about three days. The mold eats the pulp off of the seeds. You then pour them into a strainer and rinse the rotten gunk off then dry the seed.
the thing to remember though with seed saving is to start with non-hybrid seed. Hybrid seed won't seed true, and will show a spectrum of genetic difference from it's two parents in the next generation. Sometimes growing this generation can get one or two interesting plants which can be inbred a couple of generations for a pure variety, but the results will be inconsistent.
the thing to remember though with seed saving is to start with non-hybrid seed. Hybrid seed won't seed true, and will show a spectrum of genetic difference from it's two parents in the next generation. Sometimes growing this generation can get one or two interesting plants which can be inbred a couple of generations for a pure variety, but the results will be inconsistent.
Dtergent
Bluelight Crew
This is pretty strange about hybrid seeds here, is that some sustainable farming orgs actually found that some of the seed companies are not using real hybrids, but rather bred varieties. They use only the hybrid term to keep farmers buying after harvest.
Tomatoes are really fun. They just keep coming out of the compost here from all sorts of sources, so we have mixed stuff interplanted with lots of other things. We can tell by their flowers they are different but don't really know until they come out. Our native ones are as small as marbles-- smaller than cherry tomatoes. We've got as well a bunch of weird solanums that we thought were tomatoes but turned out to be some orange things with tough skins. Some tamarillo growing as well from a roadside market stall.
Whenever I travel I try to keep collected seeds catalogued in folded paper, but they often end up germinating in one mess and I can't really keep track of what they are until they begin to exhibit signs.
Perhaps this year I will make a better effort to collect seeds more systematically. I have basically been planting them as soon as I get them, trying to keep the nursery full all the time, but I probably have to make some kind of "emergency kit" to take with me if I decide to up and go one day.
Tomatoes are really fun. They just keep coming out of the compost here from all sorts of sources, so we have mixed stuff interplanted with lots of other things. We can tell by their flowers they are different but don't really know until they come out. Our native ones are as small as marbles-- smaller than cherry tomatoes. We've got as well a bunch of weird solanums that we thought were tomatoes but turned out to be some orange things with tough skins. Some tamarillo growing as well from a roadside market stall.
Whenever I travel I try to keep collected seeds catalogued in folded paper, but they often end up germinating in one mess and I can't really keep track of what they are until they begin to exhibit signs.
Perhaps this year I will make a better effort to collect seeds more systematically. I have basically been planting them as soon as I get them, trying to keep the nursery full all the time, but I probably have to make some kind of "emergency kit" to take with me if I decide to up and go one day.
Busty St Clare
Ex-Bluelighter
After the worst floods in 30 yrs have subsided this morning I have been able to survey the damage. I completely gutted my back yard with an excavator three years ago and laid new turf, drainage and paved all the garden beds, that have thankfully drained away easily despite half a foot of water in the middle of the lawn.
I have only a small veg/herb patch because it takes enough time to tend to the rest of my gardens. Sub tropics means I can vary my winter crops. This winter I have leeks, pak choy (ready to eat now), corn, strawberries as well as mint, basil, thyme, rosemary, aloe and san pedro. Once I harvest the pak choy I'll probably sow some carrots or radishes to see me through to spring.
It gets too hot for traditional flowers etc, so I like to mix up the colours with variegates and textures...
My neighbours banana tree that happens to overhang my fence line. We can usually harvest a few in the dead of night and they get blamed on the fruit bats..
I have only a small veg/herb patch because it takes enough time to tend to the rest of my gardens. Sub tropics means I can vary my winter crops. This winter I have leeks, pak choy (ready to eat now), corn, strawberries as well as mint, basil, thyme, rosemary, aloe and san pedro. Once I harvest the pak choy I'll probably sow some carrots or radishes to see me through to spring.
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It gets too hot for traditional flowers etc, so I like to mix up the colours with variegates and textures...
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My neighbours banana tree that happens to overhang my fence line. We can usually harvest a few in the dead of night and they get blamed on the fruit bats..
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jam uh weezy
Bluelighter
^That look very good busty. Very professional.
I was gonna wait till tomorrow and get some pics up, but this thread was on the bottom, so here is a little primer. Trippin around lowes today, getting some supplies, this caught my eye. Despite all attempts to resist impulse buying, they are now safe, at a better home:
Can anyone shed some light on which variety of Opuntia(prickly pear) produces the best tasting fruit?
I was gonna wait till tomorrow and get some pics up, but this thread was on the bottom, so here is a little primer. Trippin around lowes today, getting some supplies, this caught my eye. Despite all attempts to resist impulse buying, they are now safe, at a better home:
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Can anyone shed some light on which variety of Opuntia(prickly pear) produces the best tasting fruit?
jam uh weezy
Bluelighter
i need to learn the word "spacing".
sunflower
hairy buds
afternoon glory
operation: beefsteak
the enemy
reinforcements
berrybombs
sandia
nitrogen intoxiaction
wtf happened here???
some type of plantain/bananas, and unknown palm variety.
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sunflower
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hairy buds
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afternoon glory
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operation: beefsteak
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the enemy
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reinforcements
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berrybombs
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sandia
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nitrogen intoxiaction
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wtf happened here???
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some type of plantain/bananas, and unknown palm variety.
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Dtergent
Bluelight Crew
Wooo... Awesome, jam.
Spacing, or stacking actually. But getting them altogether is a good way to learn the interactions!
Good work on the garden
Spacing, or stacking actually. But getting them altogether is a good way to learn the interactions!
Good work on the garden
Nice looking garden Mr. um weezy! Having a nice, long growing season must be nice.
We finally got some rain, so I can take a day off watering my garden. I'll try to get over there at some point with a camera and take some pics. Things are coming up nice and quickly now, although a couple of melons got scorched.
We finally got some rain, so I can take a day off watering my garden. I'll try to get over there at some point with a camera and take some pics. Things are coming up nice and quickly now, although a couple of melons got scorched.
jam uh weezy
Bluelighter
thank you guys :D.
lookin forward to the pics, dave.
lookin forward to the pics, dave.
Buttercrunch lettuce, Romaine , and some beets.
We can't eat the lettuce as fast as we grow it. The beets are pretty slow, and I've planted a bed of tomatoes since these photos were taken. I'm also growing several herbs, catnip, oregano, lavendar, sage, arugula and parsley.
I just learned that asparagus is a perennial, you plant it once and it comes back every year so that's next on my gardening agenda.
Asparagus is awesome! I love clipping them when they're just little, skinny shoots. So tender and sweet. Just remember to keep clipping them just below the ground until mid summer, then let them grow as much as they like. I think (not sure though) that they're actually self-seeding annuals rather than proper perennials, so you need to let them go to seed.