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Healthy Drug Users?

boywonder

boywonder

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Hello everyone! Here's my question:

How many of you consider yourselves to have an overall healthy lifestyle with one tiny catch: You use drugs, a pretty wide range of drugs and fairly regularly. By regularly I don't mean like every waking moment regularly but a few times a week at most.

By healthy lifestyle I mean excising regularly, eating nutritiously, and just have an overall sense of being healthy.

Here are some of the drugs I use:
Cannabis: few times a week
Opiates: few times a month at most
MDMA: varies, but no more than 3-4 times a year
LSD: 2-3 times a year
Ketamine: 5-6 times a year
Various other drugs sparingly

I exercise regularly, eat fairly well-balanced and nutrious meals, and have an overall sense of feeling, well great! Not great like when I'm on drugs great, but I just feel pretty healthy.

I ask this because I have friends that say one can't live an overall healthy lifestyle while using drugs. They say that my *moderate* using while catch up to me and effect my health eventually.

What are you knowledgeable peoples take on this?:)
 
Sounds good to me. Moderation. I think as long as you keep up the exersize and don't go crazy with drugs you'll be just fine.
You say you feel great. Listen to your body. It'll tell you if you push it too hard.
 
sounds like ur going well - maybe ur friends r just jealous
if u can do drugs in moderation i dont believe they will harm u
i am fairly healthy physically if not a bit thin with shitty meth-fucked skin
now i do plenty of drugs
all day, evry day i smoke lots of weed, hav smoked meth evryday several times 4 a couple of yres 2 tho ive gone nearly 2 days now
if im not 2 fucked-up in health (it still surprises sum ppl wen i say i take drugs) u shudnt b either, not due 2 drugs anyway
 
I consider myself to live a healthy lifestyle. I used to do drugs and try and live this healthy lifestyle, but I consider it pretty counter productive, honestly. (dont use drugs and drink very occasionally now) I do believe its better to live a healthy lifestyle and use drugs than to just have the attitude of "fuck trying to be healthy in ANY way when Im using drugs" . Of course its better to excercise, eat right, etc. Even when using drugs, thats the whole point of harm reduction, trying to get the best of both worlds I suppose. I do agree, though, that at some point your drug use WILL probably catch up to you. I say just keep doing what you are doing if you want, but keep an open mind and really listen to your body, there might be a time in the future when it will be good to cut down . But it seems from what you wrote, you have pretty good willpower and can moderate pretty well, so congrats for that! :)
 
If you stay healthy, I think it's quite easy to use drugs without any real negative effects. I don't plan on dying any time soon, and don't feel like declining into old age / bad health before nature does it for me; might as well make the small effort needed to be healthy.

I run 3-4 times a week (lazy last few days), which I figure is the best thing I can do .. it keeps my lungs healthy, keeps my weight and BP down, etc. If you can make yourself run a mile or two consistently, then its not hard to motivate yourself to do other things. Plus, as soon as I stop for more than a couple days, it becomes increasingly hard to start again; conversely, the more I run, the easier it is / the further I can go. If I stopped now, there's no way I could start again in a few years.
I find it helps a lot to keep me free from illness, too. I'm not big on taking medicines (no nyquil or tylenol for me); but when all my classmates and coworkers come down with the seasonal flu, I'm generally able to dodge it at least half the time.

I do need to work on my eating, though. Having a college student budget, not being able to cook, and not knowing much about healthy eating habits = guaranteed malnutrition. For what its worth, I do try to avoid fast food and things guaranteed to make me sick.

I've had friends who sit on their arse all day eating burgers, and friends who did as much E and K as they could get every weekend for months; oddly enough they always were getting sick or feeling crappy.
I have my own battles of depression/apathy induced by doing too many drugs, but unless I do/drink too much, my body always feels fine.
My drug use probably won't last, but I need my body to go as long as it can :)

Oh, and for the past month or more, I've drank/smoked weed/done speed all but maybe four days. Generally I'm not that bad, but there's probably only a few weeks a year where I don't smoke or drink at least a few times. Hoping to end this cycle soon, but we'll see.
 
I love getting stoned before I go to the gym, climbing wall, running etc. I also find weed, alcohol, opiates, and some others to be very nurturing to a tired mind and body..sort of like taking a super relaxing day off. Of course, overt abuse of any of these substances can lead to depressing illness.

Stimulants and psychedelics can be extremely inspiring but have the biggest potential for wicked burnout. They have their positives like inspiring joy, which helps overall health. However, doing them every day or every weekend will quickly knock a solid person down.

I wouldn't consider drugs to have a categorically negative or positive effect on health..millage differs depending on type of use.
 
I use:
Heroin: 2-3 times a month
Oxycodone- 2-3 times/week
Weed- 2-4 times/week
MDMA- once every few months
LSD/ shrooms- few times a year
Coke- on occasion, not more than once a month

Despite my drug use, i am pretty healthy :
i eat balanced meals
i stay away from fatty foods and eat a lot of fruit and protein
i drink mainly water, sometimes juice or milk, never soda
i work out daily at the gym (cardio, weights...)
i run 2 miles outside at night 3 times a week
i swim for my school's swim team and practice 4 days a week
im also on a dive team and i practice 3 nights a week

i hope i continue with this healthy lifestyle, because i feel so lazy and depressed when i havent worked out in a while
 
I use:
MDMA: every or every other weekend
weed: 2-4 times a week
shrooms: not much at all. hardly ever
coke: too expensive so hardly at all


I think i might say i am kinda healthy myself?
I eat 6+ meals a day, with a balanced diet
eat only low GI carbs except postworkout.
eat lotsa lean protein (1g/bodylb per day)
never eat fast or deep fried food
live an active lifetsyle

i think it is possible to live a 'healthy lifestyle' reduce bodyfat and increase overall lean bodymass while using drugs if you know how to cycle meals and always keep a good flow of vitamins and minerals and also amino acids to feed your muscles.
 
I can live up to the healthy diet, and moderation of drugs part of the equation. But the thing that really fucks with me is that i lack in phisical excersize...
I need a personal trainer that won't give up quicker than myself. Its pretty pathetic that i strive to be healthy, but i sit on my ass and laze my ass off on the coutch/computer alot of the time.
 
I don't want to link drugs with excersise. That kind of eliminates the purpose of excersising in my mind.

But interesting idea.

I just need something that will give me the drive to continue in my work outs. Since i live in vegas, there are hardly any natural escapes to wonder off into. I'd love to go out one day and just walk into a forrest, and lose myself. If not a forrest, then a beach.
 
Let's see....just had a physical exam last week complete with blood tests, colen exam..etc.

My doctor said I was in great physical shape.

Psychedelics have made me a better person mentally and physically. I tripped of 80 times in 2005 on various chemicals.

hate to poo on the drug prohibitionist's parade but facts are facts.
 
I think living healthy is over-rated

or at least the wat most people seem to go about it.

if you want to live along life just don't eat meat and starve yourself a bit.


and don't smoke any drugs. uppers and alchol would be an no-no too
 
I once had a doctor who told me something to the effect of "Well, despite your apparent efforts to do as much harm as possible to your body you are generally in good health."
I stopped seeing him because of his snotty attitude. When I did have a problem he would go to great lengths to find out why some form of drug use was the cause, then after two or three visits and half my paycheck he would give in and start treating me like he does the rest of his patients.

Back to the question at hand... I think you can only describe healthy in relative terms... or on a scale if you will. The more health-minded choices you make then the further you are on the healthy side of the scale. Everyone has their vices. I wouldn't say I'm healthy... I'm generally a lazy person and even though I eat a pretty balanced diet I make no attempts to control my fat / cholesterol intake. Luckily for me I have genes that have kept me between 145-160lbs (I'm 6ft tall) no matter how much I eat, tweek, drink beer, smoke pot, or work out. The only healthy things I do are to eat a variety of food, stay hydrated, and eat Flintstone's vitamins.

On the other hand I use speed regularly, get stoned maybe weekly or so, take other assorted party favors (X, G, Coke,Prescription stuff) randomly... 5-6 times a year.

For the record, I also have all my teeth and I don't yet look like the hideous monsters they show of the Faces of Meth sites. Then again, I might not say that if I was basing that judgement on mug shots of myself.
 
Ok this is going to sound insane but I train MMA (mixed martial arts). I do brazilian jiu jitsu 4 days a week, boxing 2 days, muay thai 2 days and other random cardio/weights every week. unfortunatley my drug use is very sparratic. Sometimes it gets in the way of training, im not gonna lie. but as far as healthy? well for someone who used to bang coke daily and now just once in a while (I pray i dont go back to daily grams:() well i think im doing pretty damn good. i can run 4 miles easy, train wreslting/jiu jitsu for 20 min str8. go about 5 rounds of boxing full contact 3 min rounds without gassing out. i dunno im pretty much on the level of an amateur UFC fighter.
 
You shouldn't need an excuse to be healthy. But I feel taking drug's does take a huge toll on your body and you need to compensate for it by eating good foods and being generally fit (body and MIND) otherwise your pay for it one way or another. If your seriously healthy not only will you feel better while you take drugs, aka dance harder, but you will improve your day to day life overall. :)

Anyway HEAPS of colorful whole fruits & veges are the best advice I can give, as they contain alot of minerals and vitamins, (C,E,A, antioxidants, etc for reducing neurotoxicity) but also they will help to detox your body. Of course protein rich food is important, as well as alot of low GI carbs for energy, as drugs can use up ALOT of energy.
 
i excersise, good diet, etc. feel healthy. and do drugs moderately. ^and yeah i use a vaporizer, either that or i eat the weed

I ask this because I have friends that say one can't live an overall healthy lifestyle while using drugs. They say that my *moderate* using while catch up to me and effect my health eventually.
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well these people don't know that the drugs you're using aren't even toxic (except mdma, which you use every several months thought). their opinions are rooted in blatant bias against illegal drugs. and if they use alcohol, their health is suffering far worse than yours
 
Blue_Phlame said:
I don't want to link drugs with excersise. That kind of eliminates the purpose of excersising in my mind.
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Well I didnt really mean, workout, then go do drugs immediately after. More like, if you are having the urge to do drugs, think about whether you have taken good care of yourself that week (workouts, eating right etc) and then decide from there.
 
^you could limit yourself to non-toxic drugs as well, those wouldn't really eliminate the purpose of exercising would they?
 
Well... I personally consider any drug to be somewhat "toxic". I guess it really depends on what you mean by that. If you mean those that show neuro-toxic or cardio-toxic properties (meth or coke) then I guess I see what you mean. FOr me personally though, I consider even pot to be toxic, since it causes by brain to work slower, my body to feel sluggish, and my life to be less productive and meaningful overall.
 
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