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Hawaiian Baby Woodrose (Argyreia nervosa)

Tiny_Object

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"Your subconscious desires will be extremely powerful now, so much so that you really won't be able to ignore them. Better schedule in some time to chase your dreams. They're out there waiting for you. " - Daily Horoscope 15th November.

Technology and the city isn't the place I want to be today...

I feel like I need to be out in the country, riding horses or just sitting under a tree somewhere listening to the breeze scatter the leaves and watch the clouds dance across the sky...

I normally stand on the train and watch the people all around me, noticing things about them like what there wearing, there makeup, there hair colours and styles, I would judge there charactor based on my minute experiance in there presence as they deal with their daily rituals working in the city.

But not today...

I can't help but notice the birds, or the dogs howling, the leaves of every tree are brighter and more inviting dancing around in what ever breeze they can find and surprisingly even the heat and presense of the sun, something I normally shun is a comfort and an enjoyment.

I want to share my weekend with you and the feelings that I have at the moment because I believe that some of you will find something in this experiance that you perhaps can use, and I know that some of you are probably going to want to experiance this yourself and get the grounding and feeling of one-ness that I can't remember that last time having felt. I hope that some of you choose to do this and if you do please think about what I have suggested at the end of this post and let me know what you think about it as a possibility.

To begin....

I took Friday off work, I couldn't handle coming in, I had reached a point where I was... so down and out I didn't know what to do, I was emotionally, mentally and physically exhausted, tired of "buisness" and "techology" and the half truths and double dealings that I am seeing both in the workplace and with the clients that I have had to deal with. I wanted to escape from the confusion and my desires were pulling me every which way.

(for the purpose of getting to the point I am going to merge friday and saturday into one day of limited explaination)

In preparation for sunday which was to be an event (Newtown festival) on friday we (my girlfriend and I) went to our local herb shop and bought some fire sticks, fire chains and rhythmic gymnastic clubs as well as fuel.. while I was there I noticed the shop assistant talking to a customer and selling him some seeds. There was little to note about this situation, the exchange was open and there was no conversation about what the seeds where, but for some reason I decided that I wanted to know about the seeds. So I asked the assistant what they were, and what they did and in the end bought a few packets of the seeds. At the same time as getting them he gave us a book on the medicinal uses of herbs.

I got home and read the book, I discovered that the seeds where in the book and I quote ::

<u>Hawaiian Baby Woodrose (Argyreia nervosa)</u>
"...4-8 seeds were ground and consumed or soaked in water, strained and drunk for an L.S.D like experiance with extreme lassitude. Nausea may be experianced for the first hour or so. The total experiance lasting 6 hours. Tranquil feelings may continue for 12 or more hours afterwards"

The Ordeal
(skip to sunday)

On sunday for the Newtown festival Susie and Luke came over at about 10am, we grabbed the animals, 5 dogs between the three of us. We went up to Newtown festival for the dog show and ended up only catching the end of it because we decided the coffee was more important at that time. We wondered up, got coffee, noticed punk Ricky working as a coffee boy, and then wondered home to take the animals back before really venturing out to the festival...

Susie and Luke then took there dogs home and came back. We then ate 5 seeds each as I had 20 seeds in total... (some of you now are thinking that I am an idiot I know, some of you are probably curious as to what happened next so I will continue) we ate the seeds along with a lot of ginger tablets and ginger tea and left the house and wondered up to the park where the festival was.

By the time we got there, less than ten minutes later the effects had started. We were spacy, nausious, and needed a place to sit down and get out of the sun because by this time it was the middle of the day and the heat was intense. We felt like the world and the thousands of people in the park were crowding in on us although there were few people actually around us, so we wondered over to a machine (generator) and lay down in the shade beside it using the noise of the machine to drown out the 4 stages and the people.

It was as I said an ordeal, every time you moved your stomach would twist and you would feel the need to barf, the three of them basically lay on there backs and couldn't move, feeling like they had been sucked to the ground and some force was holding them there that they couldn't fend off... I on the other hand couldn't sit there on the ground, I stood up, and it was horrid, the feeling of nauesa was intense, I would take 10 steps and dry retch (as I haddn't eaten and there was nothing for me to vomit but a bit of coffee and a little ginger tea) I walked around them for what seemed like forever waiting for the nausea to ease so that we could go and enjoy the festival. But it didn't..

For what seemed like hours the three where laying there giggling and hiding under there hair staring at the sky, I would get up and wonder off through the people but never straying far, moving down to the dancefloor and dancing for a second before wondering back to where the three where and having another dry retching fit... we decided that we needed water so I wondered off to get some water from a near by corner store and couldn't make it more than about a 100m without gaging and dry retching from overwhelming waves of nausea, but at the same time I felt euphoric, happy almost like on ectasy... I made it to the shop and bought a bunch of bottles of cold water and wondered back over to where they were and convinced them to move from next to the machine because of the fact that I thought the fumes where making the whole situation worse...

This is when we first noticed that It was only 1 hour since we had taken the seeds, one hour which had felt like an eternity, we couldn't believe it, time was slowing to a crawl, that was one of the most significant effects, you were so involved in the moment, that second either in a wave of euphoria or a wave of nausea that time just seemed to stop.

1000s of people were walking past us and looking at us curled up behind a truck against a woodern fence at the very edge of the park, as far away from the people as we could get without leaving... For Zel and Luke the nausea was too much for them and they gave into the urge to vomit. After that they had they started feelign better and told me and Susie that we should barf becuase it makes you feel so better and makes you feel like you could do something again... but I couldn't barf, partially a matter of principal and partially because no matter what I tried i couldn't actually bring anything up... still it had been only about an hour an a half, we then decided that everyone was able bodied enough to actually wonder around for a while, but walking through the crowds of people was just to much for us so we walked down to the main stage just in time for a band called National Porographic which for me was a welcome change and something to focus on through the waves or nausea and intense trip...

...at this point I must stress that we were tripping very very very hard, harder than I have ever tripped before on magic mushrooms, acid tabs, mirco dots or anything else for that matter and even anything taken in double or even triple doses... now back to the story...

I danced for a while and ran into April whom it was really good to see and I wish I could have said hello properly but I was in no state to really talk to anyone at that point... the band ended and we decided to get out of there and get into the shade as we were sitting in the middle of an oval in the direct sunlight.. we managed to cross the street and get into the shade, I lay on my back and stared up at the clouds which had never looked so beautiful, I was watching cammels cross the sky in droves...

We decided to get out of there, that we needed some time away from people, some personal time to get out heads together beacuse the sense of being spaced out and euphoria was just to much and it wasn't right to be in that situation.. we also needed to cool down for a while because in the moment everyone except me (becasue I thought about it before hand) had gotten really baddly sun burnt. So we got up and started to make the trek home which was difficult, time was still running slowly, so very slowly, minutes felt like hours, we eventually got home and all curled up outside in the shade and brought out a fan to cool us down, we started eating ice because the ice was like a party in my mouth and holding the ice in your hands was heaven...

They lay around in lounge room and talked while I wondered into my training room and started doing some training and building up my energies. There, at that point this experiance changed for me, I started finding a calm meditive trance state in the midst of this euphoric, bent and twisted landscape that the seeds had brought on, I brought the meditative movements that I practice as part of my martial arts into play. I started free movement and playing with the movement of energy around me and the room, my breathing slowed and deepened and I picked up my stalf and started playing with my stalf. There was a feeling of being connected and a "one"ness that I can't adequatly explain in words and now understand why the description of the effects of the seeds were as short and simple as they are written above because I don't think I could ever describe it. I spent what felt like a long time doing this but again time was out of whack and only a short period of time had passed. It was at this point profoundly spiritual and I felt like I was taping in to everything my instructor has taught me and everything that I wasn't sure about came clear and functional... All I could think about was being in that situation in a different enviroment and having someone to train with and share energy with..

I wish I could explain to you further how it felt, it was so profound that I can't even begin to word it...

Four hours after eating the seeds we decided and where determined to make it back to the festival, the effects had lessoned to something that could be compared to magic mushrooms, we went back to the festival and everyone went off to get food so I sat there and watched everyones stuff. They came back so I took my leave and I decided to walk through the crowds and get amoungst the people, that was a very very strange experiance, the energy from my training felt like it was all around me, my hands were pumped up, and it was like there was a cushion around me that no-one could bump into, I walked around in sholder to sholder crowds and no-one bumped into me, people whom were concentrating on conversations or phone calls would look up as I approached, stop talking and move out of my way, this happened right the way around the place as I did a complete lap of the park / festival. I felt in touch with myself and very grounded.

By this stage about 5 hours had past and the feelings had lessoned. There was an amazing feeling of exhaustion both mentally physically and spiritually. We were sitting in the park still in one of the few open spaces watching people wonder around us, drunk and falling over themselves, or the punks who were starting there amphetamine hell and babbling incoherantly, we decided to go home with the intention of firesticking for a while and then watching movies, but when we got home (and over the next 6 hours) the exhaustion was too much and we lay around watching tv as best we could before sleeping...

I will no doubt try these seeds again, but in a different enviroment with a purpose in mind, I want to do it in a rain forest with a bunch of like minded people, with someone who trains martial arts, people who are into firesticking, drums and make it more of a ritualistic experiance where the grounding and "one"ness experiance could truely be developed and learned from... and do it at a time where I can spend the next couple of days continuing the experiance by just spending time in the forest wondering around and getting back to nature.

At the moment New Years in the blue mountains or down in Sydney Royal National Park is sounding pretty good asuming that Zel and I can find enough like minded individuals to actually partake it this event... which I think is something that would be good for a lot of people I know.
 
I have had experiances like this before, but nothing that has left me feeling the way that I do, normally I am left with this comedown or something (if substance related) and you never feel like you truely held on to the feelings that you experianced while on the drug...

Thats one of the hardest things to express, there was / is no comedown, today I feel so connected to the earth and nature, I am walking around and the trees and bright and full of life and the city and all the technology is dull and dead and I don't want to look at it, under the bridge the water is glisening like it is the first time I have ever seen water before... its a beautiful experiance and its continueing...

I am constantly thinking about all those things that are really important to me and mine, all the other flash and drab is not catching my eye at all..

There is so much more bubbling away that wants to blurt itself out to the world but Its more a feeling than a thought or idea and can't reall be expressed is something as simple as words
 
Sounds like you got some potent seeds. I've never tried HBWR, but my first experience with morning glory seeds was similar. Did you smoke cannabis with the seeds or just take them alone? I find smoking makes trips on LSAs much more fun and visual, along with nausea relief, but clouds it some, but the clouding makes the trip easier to handle, imo.

Alone is great too, i can't really say what i prefer, mixing with cannabis or not, but if you decide to try these seeds again, if you didnt smoke this time, there is a nice synergy.

Good report.
 
I was thinking about the Newtown Festival the other day actually, much as it sounded good, the idea of taking drugs in Sydney's horridly humid weather doesn't appeal.

Still, good report! :)
 
Summer of Love said:
Sounds like you got some potent seeds. I've never tried HBWR, but my first experience with morning glory seeds was similar. Did you smoke cannabis with the seeds or just take them alone? I find smoking makes trips on LSAs much more fun and visual, along with nausea relief, but clouds it some, but the clouding makes the trip easier to handle, imo.

No I didn't take anything else with it other than a little guarana and a kola nut for added energy. At the end of the day, late around 10pm when I couldn't sleep I did have a cone or 5 but beforehand I didn't want it to change the experiance

Originally posted by Mean Girl
I was thinking about the Newtown Festival the other day actually, much as it sounded good, the idea of taking drugs in Sydney's horridly humid weather doesn't appeal.

I understand what you mean but surprisingly the heat and the sun were almost pleasent on these seeds, the crowds however....
 
Did you soak the seeds in water and remove the skins (sorry if you knew this and its a stupid question) but if not could be a very likley cause of the nausia as the shells aren't very good for you, otherwise it was probably just because it was a high dose. I can't wait to try either HBWR or morning glorys =D
 
Rasclatt said:
Did you soak the seeds in water and remove the skins (sorry if you knew this and its a stupid question) but if not could be a very likley cause of the nausia as the shells aren't very good for you, otherwise it was probably just because it was a high dose. I can't wait to try either HBWR or morning glorys =D

I believe that it was just a high dose based on the conversation I had with the guy that gave me the seeds, I must admit that I went back and bought 30 more, some to plant for furture experiances
 
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