Have you opened up your third eye through meditation/entheogens ?

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Foreigner: Have you opened up your third eye?

 

[Foreigner]

How would you define 'complex higher consciousness?'

Bear in mind that however I put this, it's not going to be accurate because the kind of consciousness I refer to is non-verbal, non-linear, and non-intellectual. Logic is something you apply to it later in order to attempt to deconstruct it for the sake of your rational mind, but initially it's a "knowing" that seems to come from nowhere.

The third eye contains the capacity to see Samsara for what it is: an illusion. It's all just Oneness, and Emptiness. A lot of people on a spiritual path feel like they have to work toward something, climb a spiritual ladder, and they go through periods of feeling disconnected and wanting to reconnect. An opened third eye (and more specifically, one that is open while the heart centre is also open) lets the observer become one with the object until the two are indistinguishable, which facilitates the awareness that there is no disconnect. There never was. You are always connected, forever, unconditionally, without any need for approval. There is no spiritual ladder, no here or there, no higher or lower. There is only Oneness.

Have you ever heard that quote?... the ocean becomes the drop, and the drop becomes the ocean. The drop contains the entire ocean, as well. Once you can unite duality in your mind, and hold the unified form without wavering, you'll probably unlock your third eye. It's really about duality and seeing through the illusion of separation.

Once that realization is achieved, other openings in consciousness begin to cascade. That's the best way I can put it. You'll know the openings are true and right because your heart will tell you so. It's not a logical exercise. There is no burden of proof, simply a "true" or "false" coming from the heart.

Basically, a third eye opening shows you that you are not your ego. It's sort of a depersonalizing experience, yet not... because you realize that there is a deeper "you" that transcends your temporal personality, and it's a "you" that is in everything and everyone around you. We are all the same thing.

Foreigner: Have you opened up your third eye?

My third eye has been open since I was born, evidenced by certain abilities I have. I wrongfully assumed my entire life that everyone could see the things I see, but I later learned through ridicule and this is not true. I can explain the third eye not because I had to work to open it, but because I had to do a lifetime of research to understand why I am the way I am. Turns out, nothing was wrong with me.

When a child is born, if you cover their eyes for the first three months of life, they will be blind forever. The visual cortex just loses its potential. Similarly, if you are born with a third eye that's open, I think your brain develops in adaptation to that. But unlike blindness, the third eye can be developed with practice. I just think I was a rare case.

 

[cire113]

Bear in mind that however I put this, it's not going to be accurate because the kind of consciousness I refer to is non-verbal, non-linear, and non-intellectual. Logic is something you apply to it later in order to attempt to deconstruct it for the sake of your rational mind, but initially it's a "knowing" that seems to come from nowhere.

The third eye contains the capacity to see Samsara for what it is: an illusion. It's all just Oneness, and Emptiness. A lot of people on a spiritual path feel like they have to work toward something, climb a spiritual ladder, and they go through periods of feeling disconnected and wanting to reconnect. An opened third eye (and more specifically, one that is open while the heart centre is also open) lets the observer become one with the object into the two are indistinguishable, which facilitates the awareness that there is no disconnect. There never was. You are always connected, forever, unconditionally, without any need for approval. There is no spiritual ladder, no here or there, no higher or lower. There is only Oneness.

Have you ever heard that quote?... the ocean becomes the drop, and the drop becomes the ocean. The drop contains the entire ocean, as well. Once you can unite duality in your mind, and hold the unified form without wavering, you'll probably unlock your third eye. It's really about duality and seeing through the illusion of separation.

Once that realization is achieved, other openings in consciousness begin to cascade. That's the best way I can put it. You'll know the openings are true and right because your heart will tell you so. It's not a logical exercise. There is no burden of proof, simply a "true" or "false" coming from the heart.

Somebody knows whats up

Can you explain how all this plays a role in your everyday life in this reality?

Yes this reality is an illusion but to humans and us it is indeed very "real" in a sense..

I'm just curious how you have actually integrated this all into your life...

Thanks!

one is not the limited body and mind but the eternal blissful consciousness that serves as the non-dual substratum of the universe

 

[HypGnosis]

Hey Foreigner,

nice one, I pretty much agree with everything you're saying.

Once that realization is achieved, other openings in consciousness begin to cascade.

What sort of openings do you mean?

Do you think something like Jung's idea of synchronicity begins to manifest more obviously?


Cheers

 

[Foreigner]

Can you explain how all this plays a role in your everyday life in this reality?

All it does is give an additional layer of perception, filled with all its insights and distractions. If you were blind and then suddenly could see, you would be amazed, and then after a time you might begin to realize that it has given you a whole other can of worms to decipher on your path to the truth. The five senses trick people into thinking this is all real. A sixth sense is no different, except that it might make you feel more powerful and thus more likely to want to believe that you're not living in an illusion, because you're "seeing a truth" that others can't.

It gives me an advantage over other humans, one that I seldom exercise. Most of the things I see are just background, in the human zoo. You mainly pick up on things that most people would feel you have no business picking up on, but it's all just part of the human jungle. You meet people and know substantially more about them at first glance than they will know about you from hours of talking... but you learn to love them just the same. It helps me with my work, which is my primary function in this human form. It has also helped me avoid some dangerous situations... but people luck out all the time without being psychic, and likewise psychic people die every day. Being psychic is not "better" and I really resent people who think that.

Yes this reality is an illusion but to humans and us it is indeed very "real" in a sense..

I'm just curious how you have actually integrated this all into your life...

I just did. If you grow up with it, it becomes normal. It's only not normal when someone else starts bullying you for being weird.

Hey Foreigner,

nice one, I pretty much agree with everything you're saying.

What sort of openings do you mean?

Do you think something like Jung's idea of synchronicity begins to manifest more obviously?

I think synchronicity is a heart related event, not a psychic one. When you are open and receptive, release all ideas of control, and understand that something bigger than you is calling the shots and you completely trust its benevolent intentions, that's when synchronicity happens. It's a mode of perception where you are co-creating with a greater intelligence.

The only thing I have left to add to this subject is that I think pursuing psychic abilities is pointless, and foolish. Spiritual people who seek more "powers" are just creating a prison for themselves. Many gurus will tell you that psychic phenomena naturally manifest on the way to awakening, but those phenomena are not the point of the process. Whether you're psychic and have useful insights into reality, or you're schizophrenic and you have no control over your hallucinations, it's all just Samsara. If you pursue psychic powers then you're just adding more layers and complications to the illusion that you eventually have to debunk in order to enlighten.

Anywhere you are and any way you are, is where the work happens. There is nothing advantageous to being psychic if your goal is awakening and total realization. In fact, I would say that psychic stuff is a major pitfall along the way because people fall prey to wanting to use it to make their temporal lives better, instead of seeing the grand facade for what it is.

My psychic abilities are just matter of fact. I don't boast and I don't care about them. In fact they have largely been a hindrance my entire life and have made my personal requirements to live comfortably and functionally a lot more complicated. My advice is to not seek power, it's a fool's errand. Ask with sincerity to know the truth, the ultimate truth. Start there. Asking for special abilities is just giving you more angles to look at the same pile of crap that is 'reality'.

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

From the ancient greeks philosophers, to Descartes, through McKenna and now with psychiatrist Dr Rick Strassman, the "Third Eye" or Pineal gland naturally containing DMT seems to be a very alluring theory on spirituality. I've also recently met one shamanist bloke claiming that you can open up your 3rd Eye through meditation and therefore gain access to some spiritual world and that with this third eye you won't ever get stuck in a trip. Furthermore, it seems like entheogens (DMT, mescaline, lsd, ketamine...) may temporally open up your third eye during the trip. Unfortunately i am yet no Shaman nor Buddhist, only just a small philosopher at this present time who will one day fortunatly learn all these transcendental practices if they really do exist. Does any one have reports concerning this theory ?

I have made a claim of apotheosis or the opening of my third eye and I push the notion of seeking God within the way Jesus taught. The churches never teach these methods to their adherents though as that might effect the cash flow.

People will not pay to be saved if they recognize their true God and realize that he would not condemn anyone.

Let me give you two links.

The first is to show you what Jesus taught and the second to show a possible method to do as Jesus taught.

Please realize that whatever theology or myth a person can internalize can be used to activate the pineal gland.

I did not haves a belief or promote any religion till after my apotheosis and only then did I start to call myself a Gnostic Christian as God definitely told me to reject Christian dogma and tradition because of it's immorality due to Christians reading scriptures literally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y

Regards
DL

 

[steve022]

I definitely have, to varying degrees from different substances and also without. For one, I have definitely experienced alternate realities while under the influence of psychedelics, I think we all have here on bluelight. I've seen stuff that although it wasn't real, appeared convincingly real. Also, I have had many experiences with lucid dreams and other unusual phenomena without the use of drugs. Furthermore, I can say that when the "third eye" is open, one does seem to gain a level of insight about the world around them that seems unattainable otherwise. However, psychs are not the only way to open the third eye. Meditation and lucid dreaming are also very, very effective

 

[Gnostic Bishop]

I definitely have, to varying degrees from different substances and also without. For one, I have definitely experienced alternate realities while under the influence of psychedelics, I think we all have here on bluelight. I've seen stuff that although it wasn't real, appeared convincingly real. Also, I have had many experiences with lucid dreams and other unusual phenomena without the use of drugs. Furthermore, I can say that when the "third eye" is open, one does seem to gain a level of insight about the world around them that seems unattainable otherwise. However, psychs are not the only way to open the third eye. Meditation and lucid dreaming are also very, very effective

"unattainable otherwise".


To me, all knowledge is availably to us with thought. Opening the single eye is only deeper thinking but still thinking that can be done without the opening the single eye.

Can you give an example of what you mean?

What knowledge can only come through the third eye?

Regards
DL