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Have you ever been through bad withdrawal or crave heavily, then found a lost bag?

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On day 2-3 of Dilly/heroin withdrawal - right at the point where severe, late w/d symptoms such as severe psychological shit like derealization, anxiety and immense depression as well as horrible physical ones like very bad RLS, soaking the bed with sweat, a complete and total inability to control my body temp or tolerate heat, goosebumps all over, diarrhea and puking etc. (I took up to 40 pills 8mg daily, or a gram of H) I happened to find a WHOLE FUCKING UNOPENED FLAP OF HEROIN that somehow got under my couch without my noticing which is very, very rare since I of course meticulously keep track of what I have so I can use every last molecule if possible. This flap contained about a quarter of the really good shit (0.25 GRAMS) - right at the absolute worst of w/d while puking, poor and unable to get anything more. I had been previously scouring the carpet for flying chunks - and often found enough to at least alleviate withdrawal for awhile, or even get a good buzz once or twice. However finding that flap was something else entirely, and out of this world amazing. I will NEVER as long as I live, forget the feeling of finding that. It beats almost anything else in the world, including doing the heroin itself.

The sheer bliss resulting from having a completely unexpected, significant amount directly into my bloodstream (thank the lord I didn't miss as I so often did), during the throes of terrible w/d was absolute heaven of course, but even better was the feeling I had right when I found it, realized what it was, crossed my fingers in prayer, finally opened it up and finding what was a treasure beyond the likes of any other to me at the time. Just like that, my misery stopped dead in it's tracks, I got a rush to end all rushes because it was finally a significant amount and not just crumbs but particularly along with the sheer unexpectedness and profound relief of it all, and was finally able to do stuff again, since during dilly or H withdrawal I always confine myself to bed without eating.

On the flip side though of course, from then on I would always search everywhere like a fiend whenever the cycle repeated itself which is constantly did, of course. I spent soooo much time going through bags of thrown out old papers, under furniture, etc. - basically any way to get high or at least alleviate withdrawal without having to leave my apartment. I STILL have dreams about that find to this day, and had not ever found anything comparable since (although I've successfully transferred to methadone for the past 15 months or so). It was such an amazing feeling that I tried to trick myself into doing it again by "planting" some pills or flaps in various spots whenever I was able to pick up enough to do that. Of course that never worked even once, because I would always remember where I put them and raid them as soon as I ran out, no matter how much I told myself to wait until I was very sick when they would be the most needed. Opiate addiction is incredibly scary in that it completely controls your mind and body. Have you guys had any similar experiences with luckily finding drugs with or without being sick, and know the feeling of it being worth way more than gold to you?
 
On day 2-3 of Dilly/heroin withdrawal - right at the point where severe, late w/d symptoms such as severe psychological shit like derealization, anxiety and immense depression as well as horrible physical ones like very bad RLS, soaking the bed with sweat, a complete and total inability to control my body temp or tolerate heat, goosebumps all over, diarrhea and puking etc. (I took up to 40 pills 8mg daily, or a gram of H) I happened to find a WHOLE FUCKING UNOPENED FLAP OF HEROIN that somehow got under my couch without my noticing which is very, very rare since I of course meticulously keep track of what I have so I can use every last molecule if possible. This flap contained about a quarter of the really good shit (0.25 GRAMS) - right at the absolute worst of w/d while puking, poor and unable to get anything more. I had been previously scouring the carpet for flying chunks - and often found enough to at least alleviate withdrawal for awhile, or even get a good buzz once or twice. However finding that flap was something else entirely, and out of this world amazing. I will NEVER as long as I live, forget the feeling of finding that. It beats almost anything else in the world, including doing the heroin itself.

The sheer bliss resulting from having a completely unexpected, significant amount directly into my bloodstream (thank the lord I didn't miss as I so often did), during the throes of terrible w/d was absolute heaven of course, but even better was the feeling I had right when I found it, realized what it was, crossed my fingers in prayer, finally opened it up and finding what was a treasure beyond the likes of any other to me at the time. Just like that, my misery stopped dead in it's tracks, I got a rush to end all rushes because it was finally a significant amount and not just crumbs but particularly along with the sheer unexpectedness and profound relief of it all, and was finally able to do stuff again, since during dilly or H withdrawal I always confine myself to bed without eating.

On the flip side though of course, from then on I would always search everywhere like a fiend whenever the cycle repeated itself which is constantly did, of course. I spent soooo much time going through bags of thrown out old papers, under furniture, etc. - basically any way to get high or at least alleviate withdrawal without having to leave my apartment. I STILL have dreams about that find to this day, and had not ever found anything comparable since (although I've successfully transferred to methadone for the past 15 months or so). It was such an amazing feeling that I tried to trick myself into doing it again by "planting" some pills or flaps in various spots whenever I was able to pick up enough to do that. Of course that never worked even once, because I would always remember where I put them and raid them as soon as I ran out, no matter how much I told myself to wait until I was very sick when they would be the most needed. Opiate addiction is incredibly scary in that it completely controls your mind and body. Have you guys had any similar experiences with luckily finding drugs with or without being sick, and know the feeling of it being worth way more than gold to you?
Nope-never got lucky. I always found all I had before I was in really bad shape. Now losing 5 or 6 bags at a time; that was easy to do if you jump out of the car in the rain and forgot to pocket them-into the puddle they go. Or leaving them in a cigarette box, that you then leave in a dishonest users car. She thought I was dumb and didn't know I left them there. Liar.
 
I always find it funny when people in rehab tell me these storys about "accidentally finding a bag." Yeah bullshit, they're either lying or trying to make an excuse. When you're a junkie you know EXACTLY how much you have, and where it is at all times.
 
I once found 5 10 mg percs in my desk drawer when I was 3 days from the next script with nothing. It was just enough to stretch me out until the pharmacy would fill my script. I feel guilty saying it was a great feeling. Now I am on the suboxone shit and I never get to feel the percs again.....at least not anytime soon.
 
I find bags literally every time I'm in serious withdrawal. When I fall asleep from sheer exhaustion, I have access to all the drugs I want.

Sometimes they're buried in the front yard, sometimes they're in a large pile on my kitchen table, the caveat is that I rarely get to use them. Drug dreams :(
 
I once disassembled the back seat of my car because I knew there was a 40MG methadone wafer someone had lost a week prior and I was very, very sick. I remember the feeling of relief when I found it, covered in hair with a piece of gum stuck to it, lol, ew - not the classiest thing I've ever done but it set me straight!
 
i once found a nice .2 or so shot of crystal hidden like 3 weeks after i had thought i finished all the speed i bought, and it wasnt even well hidden either, i was looking for something else when i found ti.
but when you've been up 3-5 days your memory declines sharply and you do stupid shit like that without even knowing.
 
Omfg, just last week I found out I had 1st stage (?) lung disease.


My Dr. ( I NEVER TELL I AM A 20 yr. MMT PATIENT CAUSE THEY TREAT YA LIKE SHT usually and treat you like you're a drug seeking lunatic/dirtbag!



Anyway, put me on "contrave" an anti smoking/weight loss medication.

Like a good addict, I went home and popped only 1 (thank god!) and went into a very VERY severe withdrawal within 30 minutes!! . Contrave's active is NALAXONE, I.e. NARCAN. As a 30 year junky in jersey, I have detoxed many times home, jails, hospitals, but this was FN sick! The onset was as fast as a bag (bundle!) of dope but in reverse....nearly seized, passed out & cramps, aches unlike ANY I ever experienced.no water or food 4 days after and my gear had NO EFFECT as NALAXONE BLOCKED for 2 days both methadone AND da heron.

beware -NO CONTRAVE- if you use opiates-you WILL be sorry!!


Oh shit - I can't imagine how bad an antagonist induced withdrawal would be on MMT. It's bad enough with shorter acting weaker opiates. I'd seriously lose it. I also agree that people tend to treat you like shit or at the very least ignore/marginalize you when they find out you're on methadone. It even happens with people in the medical industry like doctors and pharmacists including those working in addiction/recovery facilities. It's actually pretty damn disgusting. If anything, you'd think that being on long term MMT would cause these people to greatly RESPECT you since it shows you took action to get clean - deciding you didn't want the addict lifestyle anymore, and went through the effort to do it and succeeded. There's really still so much stigma in the general population when it comes to addiction. It really sucks.
 
I always find it funny when people in rehab tell me these storys about "accidentally finding a bag." Yeah bullshit, they're either lying or trying to make an excuse. When you're a junkie you know EXACTLY how much you have, and where it is at all times.

Normally I would agree, but every now and then it seems to happen...you put something away "for a rainy day", or whatever, and find it later...
 
That's 10 24 mg doses. How lucky! Or not.. Depending on what you were aiming..
 
One time I was on day three of withdrawal and literally experiencing the worst of all the symptoms when I realized it was my new script pickup day. I had been so caught up in the withdrawal that I didn't even realize I could end it in 15 minutes. I drove three times the speed limit to my pharmacy and there they had it, ready and waiting for me to pick up was a bottle filled with 240 yellow 4mg Dilaudid pills. They were in my pill crusher before I even got home and I had six pills 24mg right there and that feeling of immediate relief was like nothing else.
I fear for your safety; not only did you drive recklessly fast to get your drugs, but you also drove home (pressumably) intoxicated.


I've never really been a junkie or anything but I love my herb. Sometimes when I didn't have any (or was not allowed to get any) i would find a dime bag on the ground or a joint/roach I forgot I had. It's a nice feeling
 
Oh shit - I can't imagine how bad an antagonist induced withdrawal would be on MMT. It's bad enough with shorter acting weaker opiates. I'd seriously lose it. I also agree that people tend to treat you like shit or at the very least ignore/marginalize you when they find out you're on methadone. It even happens with people in the medical industry like doctors and pharmacists including those working in addiction/recovery facilities. It's actually pretty damn disgusting. If anything, you'd think that being on long term MMT would cause these people to greatly RESPECT you since it shows you took action to get clean - deciding you didn't want the addict lifestyle anymore, and went through the effort to do it and succeeded. There's really still so much stigma in the general population when it comes to addiction. It really sucks.

I got hit with narcan on methadone and it was hell.. I puked on one nurse on one side of the bed, then my head spun around to puke on the other nurse and doctor, as I shit myself.. My legs were kicking so bad I thought I was seizing.. All I could hear was my rapidly increasing heart beat pounding in my head...



I think the guy you quoted is talking about Naltrexone because Naloxone isn't supposed to be orally active and it doesn't last near as long.. No where near a 2 day block... Naltrexone is prescribed to take daily so you can't get high that day.. It is similar in structure to naloxone but you take it orally and it last all day and into the next... I also had precipitated withdrawal from this once.. The doctor that gave it to me didn't tell me that I was supposed to wait 72hrs after my last dose before taking it... I got the same symptoms as above except it lasted about 2 days.. I was hallucinating and the pain was so unbearable that I no longer knew where nor who I was.. It was just pain and nightmare hallucinations.. When I finally stopped hallucinating I was still withdrawing worse than I ever have before in my 15yrs of heroin use.. I was covered in shit, piss, puke and probably all the sweat my body could secrete but with all that other stuff, who notices sweat..

Every time I watch the withdrawal scene in Trainspotting I can't help but think damn that is some bad withdrawal but I had it a million times worse..

To contribute to the thread I once lost my methadone and klonopin prescription while packing my work bag.. I tore the room apart and checked all the pockets on the bag over and over again... I had to call and say that I couldn't go on the trip. I was withdrawing for a week and I was looking all over the house in a frenzy. I must have checked that bag every hour on the hour the whole week.. Then just as I am losing it I pick up the bag and throw it across the room.. What was that? Rattling pills in a pill bottle? I ran over to the bag and tore it apart again.. This time I notice a hole in the corner of one of the pockets.. I ripped open the fabric and sure enough there was my methadone and klonopin the whole time.. I must have ran laps around the house, screaming holding the bottle up in the air as if it were the damn olympic torch and I had just won a gold medal..
 
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I got hit with narcan on methadone and it was hell.. I puked on one nurse on one side of the bed, then my head spun around to puke on the other nurse and doctor, as I shit myself.. My legs were kicking so bad I thought I was seizing.. All I could hear was my rapidly increasing heart beat pounding in my head...



I think the guy you quoted is talking about Naltrexone because Naloxone isn't supposed to be orally active and it doesn't last near as long.. No where near a 2 day block... Naltrexone is prescribed to take daily so you can't get high that day.. It is similar in structure to naloxone but you take it orally and it last all day and into the next... I also had precipitated withdrawal from this once.. The doctor that gave it to me didn't tell me that I was supposed to wait 72hrs after my last dose before taking it... I got the same symptoms as above except it lasted about 2 days.. I was hallucinating and the pain was so unbearable that I no longer knew where nor who I was.. It was just pain and nightmare hallucinations.. When I finally stopped hallucinating I was still withdrawing worse than I ever have before in my 15yrs of heroin use.. I was covered in shit, piss, puke and probably all the sweat my body could secrete but with all that other stuff, who notices sweat..

Every time I watch the withdrawal scene in Trainspotting I can't help but think damn that is some bad withdrawal but I had it a million times worse..

To contribute to the thread I once lost my methadone and klonopin prescription while packing my work bag.. I tore the room apart and checked all the pockets on the bag over and over again... I had to call and say that I couldn't go on the trip. I was withdrawing for a week and I was looking all over the house in a frenzy. I must have checked that bag every hour on the hour the whole week.. Then just as I am losing it I pick up the bag and throw it across the room.. What was that? Rattling pills in a pill bottle? I ran over to the bag and tore it apart again.. This time I notice a hole in the corner of one of the pockets.. I ripped open the fabric and sure enough there was my methadone and klonopin the whole time.. I must have ran laps around the house, screaming holding the bottle up in the air as if it were the damn olympic torch and I had just won a gold medal..

Methadone IMO is one of the worst opiates to get off. It´s takes a long time, months.
You have serious withdraws and when it´s about to be over you feel pain everywhere all the time.
Tiredness, no motivation, not to mention to cravings that Methadone was "protecting" you from.
I´ve gone through this, but it´s very difficult. I keep evaluating if this is worth it.

As I recall, I had a pretty normal life with methadone. Now I am not connected to the meds anymore but you have to constantly evaluate the pros and cons. to see if you are doing the right thing.
 
Methadone IMO is one of the worst opiates to get off. It´s takes a long time, months.
You have serious withdraws and when it´s about to be over you feel pain everywhere all the time.
Tiredness, no motivation, not to mention to cravings that Methadone was "protecting" you from.
I´ve gone through this, but it´s very difficult. I keep evaluating if this is worth it.

As I recall, I had a pretty normal life with methadone. Now I am not connected to the meds anymore but you have to constantly evaluate the pros and cons. to see if you are doing the right thing.

I have been going through the exact same thing... PAWS is real and it's a real bitch.. They say that withdrawal of methadone only lasts 2-3 weeks but PAWS is just as shitty if not more.. I just call it all withdrawal and this is supposed to last 6 months to a year.... and people call addicts weak.. I don't think many average non drug using citizens could stand this state for more than a few weeks at the most without running to the doctor for the cure.. I keep thinking the same thing... Is it worth it? Being on methadone wasn't that bad.. Maybe I should just get back on but then I realize that my depleted brain is just trying to lie to me so it doesn't have to start doing the work of producing my endorphins.. Lazy brain your gonna learn one way or another..

They say it gets progressively better.. Well I guess I am eating more and I laugh every now and then and at two months I now get 4hrs of sleep every 3rd night.. so I guess there's that... This insomnia is killing me... 2 months in and I can only sleep 4hrs after staying up two nights in a row.. This is insane.. :X

This is probably like my 50th time that I have tried to kick methadone and made it at least 2 weeks... At least I was able to kick the 4yr benzo habit like 5 months ago.. Methadone and a benzo kick now that is the ultimate gang bang withdrawal right there.. Pure insanity.. I had to do it because I was abusing both to the point that I would run out 2 weeks early every month, so I was withdrawing from benzos and methadone 2 weeks out of every month.. This has gone on for the last 2-3yrs with periods of me being able to make it several months before I gave up and went back to start the whole process over..

This is not life.. This time I got testosterone and estrogen treatment and I am going to try and get adderal because I can't concentrate or focus on anything to save my life.. BTW I have been addicted to either heroin, oxy or methadone for 15yrs.. Methadone for about 10 of those years with brief breaks to start using heron again thrown in there.
 
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This has happened to me :)
Went thru terrible withdrawals from a 1g/day H habit, after losing my job, my girl, and my place. all i had left was a car.. which i was sleeping in when not at a friends house... me and my friend sit in my car to smoke a j, im hoping to ease the pain a bit. hes sitting in the passenger seat.. drops the j down the right side by accident.. immediately opens the door, gets out, and looks for it.. he grabs it.. and also finds a baggy containing a full half G of really nice BTH. He doesnt use and is trying to stop me from using, but i still convince him to give it to me of course.. i was so happy.. couldnt even believe it was sitting there the whole time.. i still havent been able to figure out how it got there
 
I have been going through the exact same thing... PAWS is real and it's a real bitch.. They say that withdrawal of methadone only lasts 2-3 weeks but PAWS is just as shitty if not more.. I just call it all withdrawal and this is supposed to last 6 months to a year.... and people call addicts weak.. I don't think many average non drug using citizens could stand this state for more than a few weeks at the most without running to the doctor for the cure.. I keep thinking the same thing... Is it worth it? Being on methadone wasn't that bad.. Maybe I should just get back on but then I realize that my depleted brain is just trying to lie to me so it doesn't have to start doing the work of producing my endorphins.. Lazy brain your gonna learn one way or another..

They say it gets progressively better.. Well I guess I am eating more and I laugh every now and then and at two months I now get 4hrs of sleep every 3rd night.. so I guess there's that... This insomnia is killing me... 2 months in and I can only sleep 4hrs after staying up two nights in a row.. This is insane.. :X

This is probably like my 50th time that I have tried to kick methadone and made it at least 2 weeks... At least I was able to kick the 4yr benzo habit like 5 months ago.. Methadone and a benzo kick now that is the ultimate gang bang withdrawal right there.. Pure insanity.. I had to do it because I was abusing both to the point that I would run out 2 weeks early every month, so I was withdrawing from benzos and methadone 2 weeks out of every month.. This has gone on for the last 2-3yrs with periods of me being able to make it several months before I gave up and went back to start the whole process over..

This is not life.. This time I got testosterone and estrogen treatment and I am going to try and get adderal because I can't concentrate or focus on anything to save my life.. BTW I have been addicted to either heroin, oxy or methadone for 15yrs.. Methadone for about 10 of those years with brief breaks to start using heron again thrown in there.

Your post helped me immensely. Thanks for sharing. It's exactly like this, even when it comes to hormones
 
I always find it funny when people in rehab tell me these storys about "accidentally finding a bag." Yeah bullshit, they're either lying or trying to make an excuse. When you're a junkie you know EXACTLY how much you have, and where it is at all times.

I really have no idea where you're getting this from. Even though it's only ever happened to me once in years of addiction (it's certainly true that I always kept careful track of what I had as it became on obsession, of course) I'm sure it happens to people constantly. I was talking about pills or bags that were mostly lost inadvertently, dropped, accidentally mixed with empties, etc. If you use for long enough, it would happen to everyone. I'm also trying to figure out exactly what you mean when you say that junkies use that as an "excuse". What is the excuse for, and to whom? I used for 6-7 years mostly by myself, knew I was addicted very early on and often had to go on insanely long drives just to pick up, etc. So I just don't see what you're trying to say here...
 
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