Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
Yea we’ll imagine how a 4 year old girl feels having to be around a naked grown man, honestly you guys disgust me
Gun Pulled & Man Maced As Neo-Nazi Protestors Surround Family Drag Storytime Event
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when that 4 year old is bird’s kid, i’ll take his knowledge and experience over your imagination every single time.
alasdair
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
That’s because you think it’s ok to expose your genitals to children, so your opinion is kind of useless
never said that.
if you’re going to just start making shit up, you’re just admitting that even you don’t really believe your own position.
alasdair
if you’re going to just start making shit up, you’re just admitting that even you don’t really believe your own position.
alasdair
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
no, your saying “parent knows best” essentially, and I’m saying what if that parent thought it was best to have their child eat a plate of dog shit cause it won’t kill them and make them appreciate the food the parents cook, or lock the kid in their room for a week with no food and minimal water…you see there are certain things that are just not ok, and by taking the position you are taking is saying you think that’s appropriate to do and no matter how you try to use semantics in your favor that is the bottom line
that is a poor analogy. eating a plate of dog shit could make a kid seriously ill or even kill them.
you said that i said that "i think it's ok to expose my genitals to children" when that is not true, no matter how much indignation you heap on it. indeed, you have to phrase it that way - like it's being done aggressively - to try to make your point seem more valid.
do i think bird's kid will be harmed if she sees a dick while camping, or whatever? no, i don't. but my opinion on whether it's a problem is just like yours here - totally and absolutely irrelevant.
alasdair
you said that i said that "i think it's ok to expose my genitals to children" when that is not true, no matter how much indignation you heap on it. indeed, you have to phrase it that way - like it's being done aggressively - to try to make your point seem more valid.
do i think bird's kid will be harmed if she sees a dick while camping, or whatever? no, i don't. but my opinion on whether it's a problem is just like yours here - totally and absolutely irrelevant.
alasdair
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
dude, I just stated what your saying is ok to do…just saying it out loud is in appropriate, and you think it’s ok to do in real life to a 4 year old girl…I’m sorry dude but but that pretty perverted, no way around that fact
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
But how about this… can we agree that having a 4 year old girl around naked grown men is more likely to result in something negative than positive ? And by a pretty good margin?
you continue to load your phrasing to try to make this seem more aggressive than it actually is...
let's go back and take a look at what bird actually said: "One of our neighbouring tents was occupied by a nudist. He was but naked the entire time he was camping. My daughter had numerous conversations with him and other nude people."
to you, the nudist was doing something to the 4 year old girl just by being naked in her presence. he wasn't doing anything to her. he was just naked.
do i think it's ok for him to be naked at a "clothing optional" nudist festival? yes. i do. even if there are kids around? yes. i do.
if that makes you incandescent with rage and you think that makes me some kind of monster, that's fine. that's on you and i can live with it.
no we can't.
i think that, under the circumstances bird describes, his daughter is likely to grow up with a healthy attitude about nakedness and, perhaps a little ironically, will learn not to automatically associate nakedness with only sex.
alasdair
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
humans started out walking around naked, and through the years of evolution in thought most of the human population came to the agreement that having young children around naked adults was not a good idea, it’s only till recently people started to revert back to making it ok, oh and it’s funny that the French stereotype is that they are perverts, ironic….and I guarantee you having little girls around naked grown men is more likely to result in a negative outcome for that girl than positive, be it physically mentally or emotionally, but the fact you don’t see this just proves you guys are on another planet or just looking out for your own interest over the kids
good time to agree to disagree.
alasdair
alasdair
q.e.d.
alasdair
alasdair
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
I just really hope this doesn’t cause problems for birds kid down the road, being forced around naked grown men is a risky move with little benefit…these body parts are sexual in nature, that pretty much 50% of their point of existence other than a path to remove waste…so to say there is a complete removal of that is just being willfully ignorant
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i'd encourage you to try to set aside your bias and read and respond to what people are actually writing, rather than what your indignant response would like them to be writing.
when you have to embellish the idea of a nudist camping and interacting with others as somebody waving their dick in a child's face then...
well, you know the rest.
alasdair
when you have to embellish the idea of a nudist camping and interacting with others as somebody waving their dick in a child's face then...
well, you know the rest.
alasdair
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
That’s what your doing dude , how do you not get that…you are forcing a child to be around naked grown men and by doing that you are forcing them see the those grown mens dicks…it’s pretty fucking black and white I don’t care how you try to paint it as innocent or educational or beneficial, and not acknowledging exactly what it is….like the way your trying to remove that fact that your exposing a child to a man’s genitals is seriously disturbing
i'm not forcing a child to do anything.
alasdair
alasdair
mal3volent
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Not trying to implicate bird at all, but you do know that these family nudist events are heavily targeted by pedophiles right?
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I don't think there's anything wrong with incidental nudity within a family. It happens. But I think the problem is that groomers use these "innocent" occurrences to desensitize the child they're targeting to nudity in general. When they become so acclimated to being in the proximity of nudity, it's easier for the adult to make their next move.
So again, are there wholesome drag events that are fine for kids? I'm sure there are some out there. Are there some nudist events out there full of hippies and semi-normal people? I guess so (I don't see the point of involving minors though. Go as a couple and leave the kids at home).
But like, why has there been this out of control obsession with children lately? It's not leading to a good place.
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
Not in a physically forcing someone to do something…but as in when I was 5 my parents went to church every now and then and I was forced to go with them, I had no choice….unless a 4yr old girl requested to be around a bunch of nude adults and if that’s the case that’s even more disturbing
Las Veghost grower
Bluelighter
And that’s ultimately what it is, moving what’s acceptable inch by inch, then one day 10 20 years from now the line will be at kids being able to consent to sex at age 13 cause them being naked around adults has been normalized and them making life changing medical decisions has been normalized …it’s not fucking good, and it’s hard to distinguish the people who have good intentions but are just a couple crayons short of a box and the people that are just evil and obsessed with kids
Nurse Ratched
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Can we ease up on this a bit. It's been going on all afternoon. Can everyone maybe go read another thread for awhile.
It has become personal about what a parent allows for their child and how wrong or not wrong people think it is. It has become personal and judgmental against someone and is not relevant to the nazi protesters at the event.
It's way off topic and has been for awhile.
It has become personal about what a parent allows for their child and how wrong or not wrong people think it is. It has become personal and judgmental against someone and is not relevant to the nazi protesters at the event.
It's way off topic and has been for awhile.