Opioids Got to move on- I NEED HELP DESPERATELY

[teological]

Hey Mods, if this is not the right place please move it.

Guys, I need fucking help and I do not know what to do...I know I come off as confident and under control (or at least I feel I do), but I am addicted to opiates (oxycodone) and I CAN NOT STOP. I mean, I can withdraw easily (30mg once a day), then I just get right back to it. The psychological aspect is killing me, and here is why it is absolutely URGENT;

I m highly educated. I have been accepted to complete my masters in my field of study. I said to myself I will have it under control by then, now the course has started and I am basically in the midst of it, and I am still addicted and I can not study or get shit done. Every weekend I withdraw, then Monday back to it. Am I fucked? I do not want to drop out because of fucking drugs!!! I don't know what to do, and I swear to god I am suicidal on occasion, especially in the mornings....dunno

 

[Effect]

The first opiate withdrawals I experienced were from right around the same daily dose (40mgs a day average) so I know how your feeling. Nothing debilitating, but still enough to make your days miserable when you go without.

Unless you want to go the maintenance route (most here would say the dose your on would not justify that) then your going to have to face withdrawals and focus on the more important shit in your life. I know it's easier said then done and that doesn't help much, but if you want to stop the cycle your in that's what it comes down to.

 

[DETROIT*edm*JUNKIE]

Hey Mods, if this is not the right place please move it.

Guys, I need fucking help and I do not know what to do...I know I come off as confident and under control (or at least I feel I do), but I am addicted to opiates (oxycodone) and I CAN NOT STOP. I mean, I can withdraw easily (30mg once a day), then I just get right back to it. The psychological aspect is killing me, and here is why it is absolutely URGENT;

I m highly educated. I have been accepted to complete my masters in my field of study. I said to myself I will have it under control by then, now the course has started and I am basically in the midst of it, and I am still addicted and I can not study or get shit done. Every weekend I withdraw, then Monday back to it. Am I fucked? I do not want to drop out because of fucking drugs!!! I don't know what to do, and I swear to god I am suicidal on occasion, especially in the mornings....dunno

just tamper down slowly, maybe use kratom to help ease the symptoms a bit, also look into poppy seed tea to help taper down slowly. its pretty simple mate.

 

[teological]

Unless you want to go the maintenance route (most here would say the dose your on would not justify that) then your going to have to face withdrawals and focus on the more important shit in your life. I know it's easier said then done and that doesn't help much, but if you want to stop the cycle your in that's what it comes down to.

just tamper down slowly, maybe use kratom to help ease the symptoms a bit, also look into poppy seed tea to help taper down slowly. its pretty simple mate.

Hey guys, thanks for your responses. My problem is not with the physical WD aspect, it is the psychological. Almost every weekend I abstain from use. Saturday I feel cravings, Sunday I have some WD symptoms and the I wake up on Monday basically feeling no WD symptoms, it is then when intense psychological cravings kick in. I feel like utter garbage in the mornings, knowing that I will not be using, so I get up and just loop think about it, then I go and use it. I just don't have the willpower anymore.

I feel like I crippled old man without his walking stick struggling down the footpath when I know I am not going to use. Then when I know it is "on" and I use, I feel complete. Sort of like I now have a walking stick walking down the footpath. I think this is a very serious psychological crutch I have. I don't want MMT either.

Any tips on how to control cravings and extreme urges? Am I fucked?

Even the importance of a Masters degree that would land me my dream job can not override my cravings and it is killing me inside. Absolutely killing me...

 

[BigBeezy]

Not to sound cliche but at least u admitted u have a problem...I too am identical to u in that I dont feel normal without it, mentally mainly...The only thing that worked for me was low dose Suboxone...DO NOT take too much Suboxone(Drs will give u too much,2.to 4mgs/day or u will withdraw off that, ive done it several times...Good luck and God bless...

 

[Billyrifter]

Depending on how much you are using I would say the taper route is best because then you feel you have some control and know there is an ending(when u get to a silly amount). Also depends on how long you have been using. If it's not been that long try and remember when you last felt good without drugs and focus on that. It certainly won't be easy but I would say that without physical withdrawal you are half way there. You need to be positive and try and enjoy something new.
In the past I've always tried taking something less powerful to compensate but in the end it's just putting off the envitable which is if you want to stop it won't be a smooth ride.
I've thought about trying kratom which apparently lifts the mood and can have sedative affects. It's legal also I think. Maybe try that. Good luck and be positive. That's half the battle. ?

 

[Nicholai]

Why not see a therapist, drug counsellor, psych, or somesuch to learn coping techniques?

 

[BlueHues]

Even though you're not on a high dose of oxycodone, maybe a low maintenance dose of something would at least stabilize you until summer so you can get through the semester without being constantly stressed out and craving....

Of course, in the long-run, the withdrawals you'd experience would be worse, but dropping out sucks...You have the momentum, you're in the swing of things...a lot of times people end up taking a lot longer break than they intended...

With opiates, you're usually either on them or off them...and completely stopping takes a lot of work and dedication...it's a tough call...If you didn't have something important going on with you're life, I'd say just go to meetings or counseling and make an effort to truly get clean...which you could still do, but the timing sucks!

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

For people like you, who are chronic-relapsers (I'm one of them), maintenance meds are often the only chance you have at getting/staying clean. You might really want to consider suboxone (I wouldn't recommend methadone at your tolerance level). You wont be doing oxy, you'll get some much needed stability, only need to dose once a day, and then can ween off when you're ready sometime after you're done with school. Suboxone was the only way I got through college, and even then I barely made it.

If you don't wanna go that route, it's going to be a lot harder to not use, so you'll need a support group or something particular to stay clean even more. Whether it's meetings, hobbies, whatever works for you.

 

[EatClenTrenHard]

Let's look at this logically buddy, and i know how you feel about being psychologically addicted. My last session of using entailed me telling myself all day every single day that iwasnt going to use dope on top of my methadone, and for about 2-3 months i made it until 5 minutes of getting off work before i suddenly failed and drove to pick up every single day.

Anyways, here's your options.

1) Keep using and GET YOUR COLLEGE SHIT TOGETHER. I WOULD KILL FOR THE CHANCE. Quit after, when you have 2 weeks to a month to recover without worries. Only prob is running out of DOC before tests or h/w, ruining your progress anyways. Not my choice.

2) Taper down, or quit cold turkey. Definately my choice, but depending on the severity of withdrawals, i understand it may be impossible.

3) Bupe (suboxone/subutex (LOW DOSE!!!!!!) (NO METHADONE!!!!)

Honestly, my guess is number 3 would work best for you. BUT ONLY IF YOU CANT MAKE IT THROUGH #2!! Yes, bupe can be a lifesaver, but taken for too many days and you will suffer 1-3 months of mild withdrawals.

DO NOT take more than 1, MAYBE 2 mg of suboxone. 1mg was enough to cure full blown heroin withdrawals for me... Same for most people though doctors give between 4-32mg!!!!!!!!!

Man i hope you make it, good luck man.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^^

Yes. If you do get on suboxone, you will not need anymore than 1-2mg's. Getting on a high dose of suboxone will actually be worse in terms of withdrawal severity and length, then the oxy tolerance you have now.

 

[BlueHues]

And you're not gonna go through "1-3 months of withdrawal" from going to low dose oxy to low dose suboxone for two months...

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

^^

Exactly. Don't let people freak you out.

 

[Flaga121]

When I moved from my slightly higher dose of Oxy, 1.5mg more then held me. Got me through a two years Masters of Social Work program (and my license for clinical psychology.) Subs give a more awake feeling, don't distract you from your work as much, and ensure you don't think about redosing all the time.

And frankly, I would think within 4 weeks max you would be at 90% again.

 

[FreeMeForeva]

Sounds exactly like what I was doing. I tapered myself off (first time coming off oxycodone). I went through one week of hellish withdrawals, and cared for my two small boys. At two weeks I was 90% better, no cravings. After the two weeks the psychological scare was gone ... but then I developed shingles and my doc said it was from my body fighting to get back to normal. Let me tell ya ... shingles is HELL too lolol. A round of Valtrex sped up the recovery though. Today it's 3.5 weeks clean and I feel GREAT! You can do it, man.

 

[EatClenTrenHard]

And you're not gonna go through "1-3 months of withdrawal" from going to low dose oxy to low dose suboxone for two months...

I have a buddy who quit his dope addiction with suboxone, took it for 30 days at 2mg and suffered withdrawawls for almsot 2 months

I myself was on suboxone for 5 months at 1-4mg, and i had withdrawals for almost 3 months, thought it was hard, it wasn't as bad as methadone that's for sure...

My guess is that 1 month of minor minor withdrawals would come from 1-2mg of suboxone for a month... Would think it would be kidding yourself to believe otherwise. SOME people are lucky, but after asking many many people and reading many many reports, 2 weeks of ANY opiate is going to cause some discomfort, to think a month of suboxone will be withdrawal free sounds like a bet i wouldnt want to place, granted it might not be all that bad if you stay at a low enough dose.

I think a short suboxone taper might help, but if it seems impossible just stay on 1-2mg for until you get your shit straight, then plan for a month of feeling like crap.

 

[Flaga121]

2mg would be too much considering his use.

It's important to remember the sub w/d is also going to hold some reflection of the original addiction. A dope heads going to get it worse then someone taking 30mg of OC per 24 hours. I very much doubt OP will go through more then a handful of weeks of mildish withdrawal.

 

[EatClenTrenHard]

2mg would be too much considering his use.

It's important to remember the sub w/d is also going to hold some reflection of the original addiction. A dope heads going to get it worse then someone taking 30mg of OC per 24 hours. I very much doubt OP will go through more then a handful of weeks of mildish withdrawal.

i meant from bupe withdrawal

 

[Freddie Tacos]

. How long have you been using? is it prescribed or street? have you thought about maybe getting on another medication. Your masters degree is not worth losing over drugs. You could always talk to your doctor about adhd stimulants. They may curb your cravings for opiates, while helping you achieve your masters. The only way to control your cravings, without meds, is by not thinking about it. You have to replace those thoughts and find something that is more important than using. Until you replace the relationship you have with opiates, with something of equal or greater importance to you, you will never be free of this slavery. I find marijuana a good and safe alternative for helping with mental WD'S. Time away from usng is your only 100% chance of getting over your WDs without a chance of another addiction.

 

[Galaxies]

stay in there man