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Got some problems with my veins.

Wildchild-90

Wildchild-90

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Straight to the point, i have two questions about some issues i have with my veins.

First... my left arm basilic vein (elbow closest to my torso) is impossible to register now, it does not matter what needle type i use, tying of or letting someone more experienced than me try. i have not been able to use it for over a month now...
yeah, the logical answer is it has collapsed, but i can see and feel it still... plump and nice just begging to be used. i mostly ignore it so that i don't damage it more if it is just healing or something. it hurts a little when i try to hit it, but not enough to be alarming... it did sustain a lot of miss-use when i started to IV a few months back...
so i guess my question is, can a vein be collapsed and still look and feel like it is there? at most i have been able to get a drops of blood in the syringe...

second question, is some spots on the skin or veins more sensitive then other places? when i try to find new injection spots to be able to rotate as much as possible.. sometimes i find veins that hurts like i am trying to force a sword in the vein... for example the ones that you can only hit if you hold your fist close to your face, on the side of the forearm always hurts when i try, maybe i am hitting some nerves, but could not hurt to ask before i tried again.

sorry for kinda terrible english, it has been a few days already, and english is not my strong side... and if any of these problems have been answered in a previous thread then i would appreciate a link, i have read through the iv complication threads and tried to search with no luck...

i will be grateful for any input.:)
 
Veins can blow out/ collapse from past misuse. You can get the needle in and get back flash then nothing. Very irritating.

Yes. Some veins hurt like a mofo when stuck. Especially the one on the side of your thumb wrist area. The closer it is to bone with little fat deposits hurt the worst.
 
Thanks for fast reply... :) kinda boring to lose one so early but at least i have learned my lesson and increased to five different veins i rotate on... was reckless since one i know have been shooting at the same spot for god knows how many years... so i thought i could at least abuse my favorite vein till i was more experienced. well well...

yeah, the ones that hurts like i just got stabbed when the needle touches the skin has just about no fat deposits protecting them... thought they where easy targets o.o

but then i guess this problem is solved, thx for answering my questions, now i can rest easier...:)
 
yeah what is up with that vein on the side of the wrist? i think there must be a nerve that runs right along there... i have registered there before, thought all was well, injected and then had terrible pin and needles go up from my hand. my hand also swelled up really bad. i stay the fuck away from it now. not worth it.

i have found what you mentioned about some spots being more sensitive for sure. i can sometimes get the vein that runs the back of my forearm, but the skin is really thick there, and i think that contributes... or something? maybe it's that the veins there are not as close to the surface? feel free to correct me someone?

what are you using for a tourniquet? i HAVE to use a good one. something nice and stretchy. i'm a chick though so i have plenty of tights and whatnot to use :)
 
Usually i don't like to use a tourniquet, (Pride, too much to think about, makes me lose the vein)... but i have one of those things they use at the hospitals here, stretchy belt thingy that opens with a button, but in those cases i need to puff up my veins i actually use a finger knitted wool rope a friend made for me :) okay, not that hygienic, but it works well and it's kinda has sentimental value :P

If i would pull something out of the thin air then i would say that it has something to do with the thickness of the skin, more sensitive nerves on spots that are vulnerable... makes, somewhat sense... o.o would actually like to know the reason, since the vein at the back of my forearm is actually kinda nice, but i learned early that if it hurts, stop!
 
well, sticking a needle in your arm "hurts"... i don't know, the pain i have felt when going for the vein on the back of my forearm wasn't an i'm doing something wrong pain, i think it is just that there is more tissue to go through. i really do want someone to chime in on this too. i would TRY using a tourniquet. i don't like the hospital ones, they pinch. the wool rope sounds like it isn't stretchy enough. i like to use my tights and stuff, but i guess you don't have any laying around lol ;) are far as losing the vein from using one, i'm bad, i usually inject and immediately release as opposed to releasing before. being a girl though, i doubt you have as many vein issues as myself. i likely have less "usable" veins, they are smaller, etc. if i let go of the tourniquet before i injected i know i would slip out. i did some damage in the early days and there is a very small window for me to use. if that needle moves just BARELY i'm out. sux.

btw, i just reread the first post, you could try a different angle on that vein if you want to keep trying to use it, if there are not other options. or follow it up your arm a bit (maybe you can't even see it as well) and try there?
 
It's just that on the back of my forearm is almost no skin, it looks like just right under the first layer o.o for me so is the spots with thick skin is relative pain free... i guess there has to be a logical explanation for it all... maybe overthinking everything 8) been known to happen from time to time =D

hehe, not the type to have tights laying around, but it actually sounds like a good tourniquet, going to try one of those if the opportunity presents its self;) we all have some bad habits that are not in the interest of harm reduction, but sometimes doing it comfortably is way more important... I am actually not that manly built, also have the problem with thin veins, the smallest movement would make it slip out, so i bought 10mm needles, and most of my veins are exactly that length under my skin so i just need to go straight down and it would be a perfect hit, i want to point out to anyone reading this that i have no idea if it is safe at all, but beats the hell out of stabbing my self 5-10x times every time.... the rule that you HAVE to take off the tourniquet first is a little exaggerated, it CAN damage your vein, but i guess it is better then what you would do to them if you took the tourniquet off and missed every freaking time.

I shall try and see if there is a way for me to use it, since everything looks fine o.o i need to make that vein work, i have almost made the basilic, cephalic and median cubital vein connect to each other with track marks 8)
 
The main vein in the crook of my elbow was the first to stop registering as im sure it was for most of us IV users. One way I finally got mine to register was to go in at an angle. As hard as I tried going in the normal way it was impossible. So I tried going in 10 degree angle and it worked.
 
^^ i know!!!! so sad. it's my only "collapsed" vein, although i have been able to hit it once in a blue moon still. it's just barely there. i can't seem to figure out what i am doing when i am able to hit it these days. so to the op... you probably know which vein i'm speaking of, but what about the one in the crook of your arm furthest from you (sorry don't know names lol)? i didn't even know about it when i started iving. you can't see it very well, but for me it's a pretty good one. tried that one?
 
On that angle it can actually be somewhat doable, i am definitively going to try that, would be awesome if i could somewhat get the use of that vein back, it just feels natural to go after that one...

Yeah, i know which vein you are talking about, that is my new go-to vein when everything else fails, i need to force my self to not use it because it is so easy to hit, and off course it is heavily abused..-.-''
 
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