Golden Ratio Fractal Patterns

[krissilasn]

Sacred Geometry?

Do some research it's quite fascinating.

 

[neurozoo]

Research

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/hunting-hidden-dimension.html

A 52 minute video that will answer alot of questions about FRACTALS.

Im new here, and doing research on topics like this.

 

[psood0nym]

There's a reason Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni developed his 'Vitruvian Man' sketches using it. The golden ratio can be overlaid onto the human body in countless ways...

Captain Buzz Kill to the rescue: You're mixing up supposed golden ratio artists. From the article I quoted earlier, "The Myth That Won't Go Away":

Then there is the claim that Leonardo Da Vinci believed the golden ratio is the ratio of the height to the width of a "perfect" human face and that he used GR in his Vitruvian Man painting. While there is no concrete evidence against this belief, there is no evidence for it either, so once again the only reason to believe it is that you want to. The same is also true for the common claims that Boticelli used GR to proportion Venus in his famous painting The Birth of Venus and that Georges Seurat based his painting The Parade of a Circus on GR.

Painters who definitely did make use of GR include Paul Serusier, Juan Gris, and Giro Severini, all in the early 19th century, and Salvador Dali in the 20th, but all four seem to have been experimenting with GR for its own sake rather than for some intrinsic aesthetic reason. Also, the Cubists did organize an exhibition called "Section d'Or" in Paris in 1912, but the name was just that; none of the art shown involved the golden ratio.

I stomp on myths believed by many in the psychedelic community as often as possible. I don't mean to be a dick. I simply think it's a waste that the energy and inspiration derived from such an experience propels so many enticing but largely substanceless beliefs when restraining these surges of amplified imagination into narrower channels makes them so much more penetrating. This isn't a shot at you personally (it can't be, I know nothing about you), I'm just using your post to illustrate a point. Read the article. There are truly interesting facts about Phi, they just aren't as far reaching as the new age marketing machine and wishful thinking would have us believe.

 

[Quantum_truffle]

There's a journal article up on erowid that talks about this. They think that the fractals and other geometric patterns people see while under the influence of LSD and similar drugs is due to the architecture of the cells in our prefrontal cortex. The LSD changes the way these cells transmit information to each other in such a way that our brains generate complex geometrical patterns where there are none.

Do you perhaps have a link to this article?

On topic:

It is not possible to measure your visuals. So there is no real way to tell if they're golden ratio.

I think the golden spiral isn't all that interesting. The golden ratio might be some born preference we humans have, some aesthetic norm. But that does not mean it holds some great truth or mystery about our universe. We also have a tendency to find things with big eyes and a large head cute, for obvious evolutionary reasons.

For me there's more mystery in fractals. Or mathematical constants such as pi, e, or the fine structure constant.

For me it is interesting to see visuals, and wonder what their origin may be. As said before by Solipsis, our brain runs quite a lot of filters over our raw sensory input.

Which is quite a good idea, since in theory, our eyes for example, are capable of seeing one single photon. During a project last year I had the pleasure to work with some man-made, electronic single-photon-detectors. We had to make damn well sure the thing was turned off and sealed off when exposed to daylight or even light from lamps in the room, or it would die very quickly.

The filters our brain runs are part of our normal, very-good functioning sensory input and output system. And it is obvious that tryptamines do something to do it - and as long as we know so little about the functioning of our brain, we can only wonder what exactly.

 

[rolodex propaganda]

In my conceptual math class, we were to write about one way in which the golden ratio manifests itself in nature. I wrote of how users of psychedelic drugs see the golden ratio in patterns and fractals. Objects bend and stretch within the tripper's mind to make this possible, which suggests that the number affects how the brain works and seeks orderliness. My professor was quite satisfied.

 

[Raw Evil]

Everytime I do LSD I see these Golden Ratio Patterns until i go to sleep after the trip. Does anyone else see these?

Kind of like this or something
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This is expected behaviour for an LSD trip.

For some reason I feel like theres some secret behind it...like some unknown truth that if discovered, could shake the foundations of our beliefs.

Again: you're tripping. This is a normal way to feel about it. My advice is not to put too much stock into it.

Captain Buzz Kill to the rescue: You're mixing up supposed golden ratio artists. From the article I quoted earlier, "The Myth That Won't Go Away":

Then there is the claim that Leonardo Da Vinci believed the golden ratio is the ratio of the height to the width of a "perfect" human face and that he used GR in his Vitruvian Man painting. While there is no concrete evidence against this belief, there is no evidence for it either, so once again the only reason to believe it is that you want to. The same is also true for the common claims that Boticelli used GR to proportion Venus in his famous painting The Birth of Venus and that Georges Seurat based his painting The Parade of a Circus on GR.​

I stomp on myths believed by many in the psychedelic community as often as possible. I don't mean to be a dick. I simply think it's a waste that the energy and inspiration derived from such an experience propels so many enticing but largely substanceless beliefs when restraining these surges of amplified imagination into narrower channels makes them so much more penetrating. This isn't a shot at you personally (it can't be, I know nothing about you), I'm just using your post to illustrate a point. Read the article. There are truly interesting facts about Phi, they just aren't as far reaching as the new age marketing machine and wishful thinking would have us believe.

I think that a lot of artists make use of the golden ratio without ever consciously intending to. Since there's a (seemingly) intrinsic human preference for things in proportion to Phi, it's entirely likely that painters from all times would have kept things in that perspective - not because they were following some formula, but simply because it "looked nice that way".

I find that in my own photography, the best shots I've taken are already very close to golden-ratio proportions without any manipulation.

Speaking of which, I'm going to try and get some shots before it starts raining