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going off bupe

emingos

emingos

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im taking 0.4mg buprenorphine(temgeaic) a day and im going completely off from monday

i have lot of stuff to help me
loperamid
quinin(rls)
seroquel(sleep)
melatonin2mg xr (sleep)
prometazin/diphenhydramine(sleep/boost other drugs)
ohhh and lotta weed and alcohol if i want to.. :)

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benzo's(oxazepam/nitrazepam/clonazepam) perfect combo imo anxiety/sleep/muscle relaxer

altho i limit my self i have given my mom all the meds'
then ill tell her a dose she can give me :)
besides all the medical stuff i im in a quit forest house my parents live in
it got a jacuzi i think its all in english :P but thats nice for wds
and my mom will make sure i eat when im sick so thats nice

theres a little sand beach 500m away and forest all around the house
so its the pefect siting for a detox place hehe

my mom will get my card to the only way to get away (they live on a litle island 5km from my home town
so i cant swim home hhe and she got all my money anyway so i ready
i cant take this opiate life anymore itu sickens me
so tired

qeustion:
you guys and gals got any tips and tricks to batlle opate wds beside the ones i allready got ? :)

your free to chip in with any thing you want.
 
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You seem set my friend! That sounds like a super nice place to detox/ vacation. Good luck though, I'm sure it's not gonna be a walk in the park. I would suggest not drinking while going through w/d. Helped me get through the physical part but made me more depressed. Since you have benzo's and weed I don't think you'd need it anyway.
 
It really does sounds like you have it planned out pretty well. I know the beach will help. It's always been my go-to place for serenity and healing. Loperamide in my opinion is severely underestimated for helping withdrawals. Read Bluelight for the proper dose so it does actually work for the full spectrum of the withdrawals and not just the stomach and diarrhea issues.

Will you have a computer there? You should keep us posted on how you are doing too ;).
 
thanks for your input guys, yeah im allready there this is my last day on bupe, ive only taken 0.2 today
but i can hijack there laptop anytime so i will update as often i can my friend :)

now: im gonna take a joint an take a trip in the woods besides the house(to hot to be out in the sun atm)
may you all have a good day :)
 
a little update:

day 2 without any bupe and its beginning to show but nothing like i thought
first day no problems, exept i had i hard time sleeping tho
today the runs began and im a little jittery else its going suprisingly good so far, but im feeling the worst part is yet to come

now im gonna go for a walk in the sun and smoke a little weed :)


good day all
 
Hey man I'm not a doctor but I personally believe .4mg is too "high" a dose to come off of.

I'm on .5mg right now and if I stopped I'd be thrown into a horrible fit of depression & lethargy/apathy. Lots of people taper down to a point where physical wds will be minimal, then stop, but they get depression/anxiety that leads them back to using.

With sub, you don't really feel the bad part till day 3-4 imo.

I'm happy for you just REMEMBER this is your brains biology you're dealing with. There is nothing else in life that needs to be approached as carefully as stopping opiates.

If you find yourself depressed/anxious/not able to sleep, merely go back and take .3mg. Then another 2-3 days, see how you feel. Anytime wds peak, you can take just a little bit less, and keep repeating this till the rebound phase as minimized so much you don't feel it physically OR MENTALLY.

Good luck, and keep us updated! Like I said I'm at .5mg, and am NOT coming off untill I'm under .1mg. Even then I may bridge over to a homeopathic solution and take it every 3 days just to minimize the depression.

TAKE IT SLOW & GOOD LUCK!

-Bo
 
Bojangles2.0 : well the last week before i reduced to 0.2mg and i just couldt take the constant wd's when lowered my dose, then i said fuck it ill try to detox here, if it fails(it wont) i can allways start at the clinic again, oh yeah and the last few weeks in the clinic i took orally not subl so i think my dose must have been lower how much i cant say
btw the problem was i couldt sleep, depression/anxiety and lethayge


at day 4 i was a litlle jittery this morning but its actully not that bad at this time
 
took back to my own city to get a little more benzo's and i have a apointment with the job service and had i take the trip tomorrow morning i would have to get up really early and then stressing to score

now i have more then enough to help me for the next weeks time at least + i have a friend stash the other haf of the bottle till i run out so im all sorted to get up early to the meeting, and go take the boat(ship) over to my parents so i dont get to much time to get any 'good' ideas hehe

now ill go to sleep, day 4 allmost gone weee
(ok ok ill just finish this joint off then bed ;))

sleep aids today: 5mg nitrazepam, 2mgxr melatonin, 50mg prometazin(sedate/boost) and 50mg quinin(rls)

sleep well all :)
 
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Awesome man good for you!

Keep at it and the second you're feeling in a funk (if it even happens) come back to this forum and we will all do our best to help you out!

You also got some good meds that I don't have (which I will probably be ordering soon enough myself) so I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.
I think you'll come out a champ because its obvious enough you want it BAD, and thats always the common denominator in what gets people
clean imo.

kill that monkey! - Bo
 
thx Bojangles thats means a lot, and yeah im so tired of the game, the people and all that bs
even tho i have never stolen to get my fix, ive borrowed money but never stole any stuff
i just cant do such things, my mistake shouldt be affecting others
but i felt it was quit now or die,

Bojangles: btw ill msg you later,, got something we need to talk about ;) (no worries nothing serius)

day 5: i got i little headache but i just think im dehydrated, a little moody, but i sleep nice last night even without seroquel
i just used 5mg(or was it 10? hehe) nitrazepam, 2mg xr melatonin, prometazin(boost my benzo's sedating effects)
i was up 2 hours before i sat my alarm becourse i sleept so good it was just what i needed :)

havent taken any meds yet today, but ill take a little loperamid and a benzo or two (oxazepam/clonazepam) one for quick relief and one longlasting so i could just dose now and be covered the rest of the day, but i will rather save ef for when its gets bad, i dont need anything atm besides some loperamid but ill maybe take 0.5mg clonazepam before im out the door

have a meeting with my work service provider(dont know the english term? its like a social worker, but its a private firm the goverment gives support) and when thats done, ill go get some weed for the weekend(my dad cant get a hold of he's dealer, i had asked him if he would by me some, he tends to buy bulk, not becourse he smokes much, but its cheaper, better quality(then shit from the streets:P), and then he dont like to go out on the strett and score some weed(not thats it hard to get, but he dont wanna run with that crowd, he's just wanna chill with a like toke once in a while, have he's garden work(he's a gartner, like me :)), ), and the more we buy des more cheap, toself:"damn on with the point!" yes, when ive gotten some weed, im off the my parrents private rehab house AND im the only patient hehe

sorry for the morning ramble hehe

may you all have a good day! - :)
ill write a update later if anything changes, else ill write an update in a day or two
 
sorry for the little update delay (i couldt find the damn thread so my brother had to text it hhe)

im now completely off bupe(and other opiates)
at the moment im taking:
melatonin
lopraremide(ok not completel off opi's :P)
prometazine(to boost my benzo's setading effect)
quinin(for rls, but im not really taking them so much more)
a few benzo's when needed(never for sleep)
ohh yeah and a little weed allso
alot of it i dont think i need, but its comforting to know i have it..

todays intake is: 10mg nitrazepam, 50mg prometazine and 0.6-7g hash total (yet anyway, a melatonin for the night and ill sleep like a baby)

and on monday i start a new job, a bit anxious but thats normal i guess hehe
i will update in a day or two again :)

ill smoke a joint and enyou a movie or smt now
good weekend(or the remaining anyway) all

TDS - i really love this darn forum (all of BL ofcourse but TDS have the sweetest people, no all bl'er are the best!)

btw if my brother see this(witch he will) HELLO you dumb retarded son of a whore! ;)
 
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yeah i was actully surprices it wasnt nearly as bad as i had feared, but nice going day 3-4 seems to be the worst so you should soon feel better my friend :)

i can strongly recommend quinin for the rls and maybe melatonin for better sleep quality even if you only get a few hours it seems to make me more refreshed the next day, oh and as have been said over and over, exercise also really helps(the hard part is just to get out and do it)

tomorrow i have to get early up and go to work! - quite exited but a bit anxious also :)
 
i have prequired a 3x 50mg tramadol for tomorrow, now i have no way to call in sick, not that i thnk i even then em, but just knowing i can take em if all goes to hell give a ease of mind

but i still got a few imodium, lot of quinin, few clonazepam, bromazepam and quite a few nitrazepam, so i should be fine, its just my mind playing with me '(damn anxiety)
 
darn paws is killing me, my depression and anxiety is really bad and that is why i started taking opiates in the first place, i hate theirony! :P

and a sidenote to anyone trying to quit, quinin is a godsend! it takes all my rls so i can strongly recommend it for rls
 
stardust.hero said:
Loperamide in my opinion is severely underestimated for helping withdrawals. Read Bluelight for the proper dose so it does actually work for the full spectrum of the withdrawals and not just the stomach and diarrhea issus.
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I can only go along with this, high doses of loperamide work wonders. I'd recommend 40mg at first, if you still feel depressed after 3 hours, dose some more, it'll last a whole day. I'm at 1mg sub myself atm, dropping to 0,5 tomorrow, with a little emergency 0,2 if it gets too bad at work.

Once I'm at 0,2 daily, which should be soon, I'm going to switch to lope, then taper with that, 2mg less each day. There should be virtually no symptoms left once I arrive at normal lope doses and completely drop it.

Oh, and no more benzos for me as well, I fucking hate how they've fogged my mind, even on a small dose (20mg diazepam for sleep daily, for a year or so). Please do yourself a favor OP, use as little benzos as possible, the WDs are way worse than when tapering down opiates. Yesterday I didn't get a minute of sleep, today was pretty bad as well, and as it's only day 3 without any, the harsh part is yet to come. I could have tapered, but thought that this small of a habit wouldn't be to bad if I just cold turkeyed. I was so so so wrong.

I had fullblown heroin WDs a few times before discovering subs and lope, I'm used to feeling like shit, but benzo WD easily takes the cake. Shit is just plain awful, please be careful and don't get hooked. On them, you'll feel yourself getting dumber each week, off them, you'll go crazy, and nothing will really help.

Stick to lope and weed against depression and other symptoms, I implore you.
 
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