Opioids Going from Oxycodone to Opana

[hefe1313]

What's up guys,

I'll be picking up some opana40mg soon, and wanted to ask people what ya'll thought of opana and what dose tolerant people dose at.

My dose with roxicodone was up to 7 30mg/day.
it is currently at about 3-5 30mg/day

i was thinking of insulflating half the 40 and if its not enought move up from there.
is that too low to start?

just throw out what you like more about opana than oxy or other way around if so.
i know opana is stronger than oxy, not sure howmuch stronger, maybe 1.5x?

thanks

 

[KillSurfCity]

i would say opana is about twice as strong as oxy. the high is totally different and i am actually not much a fan of the opana (weird, right?). also, is this the new e-40 opana? those things are such a drag. it took me and a friend a whole hour to grind one down with a pedi. if you are successful in doing this (you may want to wear some heavy gloves or your hands are going to be raw), mix what you ground down with something like crushed up tylenol (not recommended but it works) to prevent the stuff from "gumming up" in your nostrils. also, do not snuff back the opana after snorting it. let it sit in the nose. that's my two cents. as i said, not a fan of opana so i do not have much experience with it other than using it to keep from getting sick. rock on.

 

[Cherokee]

X2 for it not helping

i would say opana is about twice as strong as oxy. the high is totally different and i am actually not much a fan of the opana (weird, right?). also, is this the new e-40 opana? those things are such a drag. it took me and a friend a whole hour to grind one down with a pedi. if you are successful in doing this (you may want to wear some heavy gloves or your hands are going to be raw), mix what you ground down with something like crushed up tylenol (not recommended but it works) to prevent the stuff from "gumming up" in your nostrils. also, do not snuff back the opana after snorting it. let it sit in the nose. that's my two cents. as i said, not a fan of opana so i do not have much experience with it other than using it to keep from getting sick. rock on.

I personally don't do well with Opana. I tried it and found the relief was nil and I stopped. I am currently going through a gauntlet of meds to find the right Long term and breakthrough relief.

I was in a MC accident in '93 (totaled the bike, crushed my Left femur) 2 MVA's - 05 & 06 (a year to the date apart.) The combination of the accidents have really messed up my body. It's been 7 years and still have problems like it was last month. I guess turning 40 felt more like turning 70.

I am currently prescribed:

Neurotin 300mg x3
Oxycodone 15IR x5
Xanax 2mg half to a whole as needed

I have tried Methadone, Morphine, Oxycotin 60mg & 80 mg, Compounded Hydrocodone 40mg x8 a day, Fent patches, Opana, Tramadol, and those are just off the top of my head...

John

 

[HighonLife]

well since you are used to roxi n know you'll be gettin these newly formulated opanas first off these new opanas are a bitch to break down, worse then the OPs

imo i would prefer the roxis, first i like the energetic oxy high, and also with oxy you get that nice euphoria from a certain amount n you have to use more to get that nod

for me when i used opana i did it til i found that euphoria but as soon as i got that euphoria it wasnt a few minutes after that i got some hardcore nods, n dont get me wrong i like to let go n let the nod take over with any opiate if possible but with the opana the nod just kinda took over

n yea as the other poster said the new opanas will fuck up your fingers, i got blisters n eventually callous' until i realised using a pair of plyers would work better then my finger but yea get a ped egg n some plyers

 

[hefe1313]

What dose HOL?

 

[macd610]

I switched from oxycodone IR 60-75 mg every 4 hours as needed for breakthrough pain to oxymorphone IR awhile back. My MD switched to that bc I noticed my oxycodone was only lasting about 1.5 hours vs the 3 hours it had been lasting. I was VERY disappointed. It provided no pain relief and no euphoria. I actually went through some wd's from the oxy, albeit they weren't as severe as normal and they didn't start until the 2'nd or 3'd day if I remember correctly. I wish I could remember the dose ...I wanna say 10-20mg every 4 hours.
I know many people (on here and personally) who have great results with Opana, I just wasn't one of them. Luckily my MD allowed me to switch back to oxycodone and the break from it very much helped my original issues with it.
While I felt nothing from the oxymorphone (that I noticed), I think oxycodone has pick-me-up properties that oxymorphone generally lacks.

 

[Nine North]

I'm another one whose had disappointing results from opana, my dr switched me from 10mg oxycodone to 10mg opana er 2 weeks ago and not liking them much at all. The pain relief doesn't last nearly as long as advertised and doesn't feel much/any stronger then the oxys. Thought it might just be me, cause of nerve issues digest food really slowly so thought that might be screwing up the time release, but reading a lot here at BL seen a number of posts saying similar. Was almost glad when got a letter from my insurance company this week saying the one script was all they'd do cause opanas aren't on their formulary, they don't work well for me as pain control and there's little-to-zero euphoria either. That said, combining opanas and oxycodone has been pretty good overall for me, but opanas as a stand alone have been an unsuccessful drag

 

[Jabberwocky]

I haven't any experience with opana - but I believe last night I had an experience with oxymorphone. Took a lot of grapefruit juice before dosing my oxy and the high was compeletly different as I think I synthesised a lot more oxymorphone. All I can say is that I really disliked the high as it was far too noddy and too overpowering to enjoy.

I'd stick to oxycodone if you personally enjoy the effects of it.

 

[hefe1313]

well shit im sure ill like it, sucks all ya'll dont really like it though, we'll see.
id rather have more nod so that's a plus. thanks guys
i'll post back tomorow after i try it

 

[etard7007]

opana is MUCH stronger / more euphoric than oxycodone. opana is oxymorphone.

Back when i was prescribed it, the original formulation of the extended release... I had 3x the 20mg ERs a day... ALL of the ERs, even the 40s, were tamper resistent- BUT not as bad as the new formulation. the old ones just gelled up when added to water, and there were ways around it, using alchohol, etc... Plus, you could snort them.

However, the NEW formulation... ANYTHING above the 15mg ERs are so hard to tamper with.. they are like the OPs... so the only Opanas that can be snorted or extracted with rubbing alcohol for IV use (of the extended release class) now are the 15mg ones... anything higher, is pretty much impossible to do anything to do with.

If you can get the IRs.... the 5mg or 10mg instant release Opanas are the same as Roxis, no problems or hassles or tamper resistant additives to the makeup of the pill. I was on 4 x 5mg IRs/day and those are what really were what got most of my attention.

^ and How can people not like OPANA?!? OXYMORPHONE?!

Although I can see it, for people who snort it, it is HIGHLY sedating and will have you drooling on yourself... but if you are an IV user, I cant see how any IV user could dislike the feeling of opana. I know thats an opionion, but I just dont see how its possible.

 

[hefe1313]

ok i tried insuflating half of a 40 and yes these fucking suck to do that. im pretty sure its all gluing up in my nose.
ill post back tonite after i try things out with them.

edit: update, opana is the bees knees
way more warmth than oxy.
i used a ped egg to grind down a whole one, and popped the contents in my mouth, so oral 40mg, then every 10-15min or so insuflate a little bit because i tink if you do too much, it wont get used by your membrains. i could be wrong tho, chime in if you think so.
and it doesnt seem to matter if it gels up in your nose, after a few mins i checked it out and its disolving, then i sniff it up more and down the throat it goes. hopefully the little time its in my nose, my nose membrains are sucking up the goodies.

please chime in with notes on how to insuflate or chew or whatever. opinions are needed here!
thanks

 

[Nine North]

someone mentioned kind of sucking the coating off then chewing them with orange juice (think it was in the opana megathread) and I tried that with grapefruit juice and they worked a little better for me like that. Still not great, and glad you've had more success with them than I, but chewing them with grapefruit juice followed by real hot tea w/lemon was a slight help, at least for me.

 

[THC_LSD_OC]

In my experience all u had to do was suck the coating off wipe it down with a paper towel and it was crushable. any gel left was obvious and could be removed from the fine powder.
Opanas are crazy strong. When i had an oxy tolerance I tried half a 40 my first time and I got the sweats was nodding puking the whole nine yards. Got up to a whole 40 at one point, but I had friends who would mostly do H and could get off on 20mg oxymorphone.
I personally don't like it because I enjoy the more euphoric elements of oxy, it personally wakes me up and gets me feeling active and able to do more, especially because I have pretty bad tendinitis from swimming (I swim very competitively).
Opana would always make me nod out like crazy. Never done H but I could imagine oxymorphone is one of the closest synthetics to it, along with fentanyl, iv dilaudid etc

 

[hefe1313]

With these new formulas even when taking off outer layer of time release, i think theres still time release inside the whole pill. The whole pill on the inside is like wax even after taking off outer coating.

 

[HaZeX]

With these new formulas even when taking off outer layer of time release, i think theres still time release inside the whole pill. The whole pill on the inside is like wax even after taking off outer coating.

Im assuming you have Endos new Opana with the "E" on one side? Try Impax/Global Pharms new generics.

 

[KillSurfCity]

Im assuming you have Endos new Opana with the "E" on one side? Try Impax/Global Pharms new generics.

waaaaat? i have not seen these yet. nor heard of them. i'm ready for the new roxy-style hydrocodones, personally.

 

[hefe1313]

Im assuming you have Endos new Opana with the "E" on one side? Try Impax/Global Pharms new generics.

Yeah i've read they came out with a new generic that you can easily crush into powder. and yes, I have the new circle Endos hard as a rock and E on one side.
I tried powderizing a little acetametaphin then shaving the opana using plyers to hold it and the ped egg to scrape flakes off then mix them together but not too much just a little line as to not get too much up your nostril. I think this is the best way so far. Also shaving another whole opana40 and dosing it orally hopefully keeps it going longer. Still I think there's no "rush" from insuflating this.

 

[hefe1313]

Ok folks. I've learned that even with the new opana 40mg er and them gelling up in the nose, you are still getting the dose through your mucus membrains. it may seem/look like you're not because it gells up and everything but i tried orally 40mg parashuted then 8 horus later 20mg insuflated (note half the dose/and this was a stronger high) the latter was 4x stronger. 10min after insuflating i felt warm legs and it took off from there. like others say its not a head rush/high its in the legs/arms and stuff. and a HEAVY nod, which is what i like best.
if you use a ped egg to shave the pill into itty bitty flakes and shave an itty bitty amount of acetametaphin into the mix then insuflate that worked for me.

 

[luckyshot04]

Hefe,

Opana is serious as fuck. The hardest drug I've had to kick and WD's that make my old oxycontin addiction seem like a walk in the park!

Since you are using the TRF formula, it's just not the same as being able to crush up an old school and go to town. However, it's still 40mg's of Opana...The shit is stout.

Check out the new thread about Global Pharm's new generic Opana if you want to see what is going to be the new craze, IMO. I love Opana...Please be careful, I'm giving you a heads up, this is a great drug, no questions; However, you do not want to get addicted to this. If you are going to use oxymorphone, be careful sir. I had a few close calls with Opana and xanax! Don't mix!

 

[Jabberwocky]

i just dont understand oxymorphone. perhaps because i've never tried a full on experience with only that drug but rather i metabolized a shit load from my oxycodone, but all i did was nod the hell out, super sedated and continually think wtf is going on?

i think it's because i'm used to that "i'm able to function, in a really fucked up way, but efficient one too, while being really fucking euphoric and loving every second of this" on oxycodone.

i dunno. maybe on its own its the shit. but for me its a definite no no.