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Lackasham

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I have a theory that God is everything in the universe. The universe is infinite as is God and the universe is expanding. So God is expanding? I believe God knows each path for the infinite amount of possibilities there are for each moment. So as time goes on and more moments are happening Gods infinite knowledge expands. Also this could explain a connection between religion and the scientific explanation of the universe(Big Bang theory) God is the universe so the Big Bang was a part of Gods plan. Possibly the division of good and evil? (Angels falling from heaven)

I think to many people have a stance that either science is right or religion is right but why can't both be correct?
 
I would say the way I think about it is closer to Panetheism. I am a Christian but taking in the world around me leads me to believe God is everywhere
 
Lackasham said:
I think to many people have a stance that either science is right or religion is right but why can't both be correct?
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they can't both be correct because, in many regards, they are mutually exclusive. they operate on completely different currencies - faith and proof - for which there is no practical exchange rate.

one person believes a triangle has 3 sides. another that a triangle has 5 sides. why can't both be correct?

alasdair
 
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triangle has 5 sides
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but tri is three. at the very least there should be a common exchange of language.

but i have been wondering just what in the heck the 5th 3rd bank is supposed to be. haha.

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I think to many people have a stance that either science is right or religion is right but why can't both be correct?
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science, if I am not mistaken, is a process of finding things out. it's ongoing. through scientific process, models of the world can be built (models which are subject to change, and might not always represent reality, but likely are good enough for practicality). perhaps science just hasn't figured religion out, in full, or if it knows how to approach it. religion, to me, seems largely metaphorical, and abstract, in ideas. i don't know. and some myths, according to scientific models of reality as we know it, like the 6000 year old earth/universe (unless i'm missing something), Adam and Eve (unless i'm missing something), and the ark that held all the animals (unless i'm missing something), seem simply implausible (unless there are other ways of looking at it).

but, i do think that "God" is everything.
i don't know. there might be lesser Gods (or prophets) within the system that have a certain connection to God, and these would be likely the ones that we have come to know in our religions (?). but even we are "lesser Gods", or angels. God and angel is often one, in texts, or like as one. the angel of the lord who spoke to Abraham, has been said to have been God, by some. God the big God is ineffable. i imagine anything you say about God is true, and meaningless, really, to God, and perhaps false in some sense (i've heard this before... "All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.").

again, i don't know.
at all.

certain religious ideas/spiritual ideas do seem to find merit in science-fact, though. i seem to remember reading that some ideas in Buddhism align with ideas in science/coming about in science. religion and spirituality, and science, are in fact rooted with similar beginnings, as they are ways to try to make sense of the world/ourselves. a lot of earlier scientists were also mystics. and a lot of early mystics were also scientists, for their time.
 
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What 23 said:
but i have been wondering just what in the heck the 5th 3rd bank is supposed to be.
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from wikipedia:
Fifth Third's unusual name is the result of the June 1, 1908 merger of Third National Bank and Fifth National Bank, to become the Fifth Third National Bank of Cincinnati. While Third National was the senior partner, the merger took place during a period when prohibitionist ideas were gaining popularity, and it is legend that "Fifth Third" was better than "Third Fifth," which could have been construed as a reference to three "fifths" of alcohol. The name went through several changes over the years until March 24, 1969, when it was changed to Fifth Third Bank.
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much more mundane, i am sure, than the crazy coincidence/conspiracy you thought it would be?

alasdair
 
no not really.

it simply doesn't make much sense as a name. kind of like it doesn't make sense for someone to believe that a triangle- a two dimensional shape, of which the name for is pretty self explanatory, has five sides. i just didn't think it worked really to draw parallel, but i wasn't intending to be that hard. i apologize.

thanks for enlightening me on that. it's been awhile since i looked up why, and last time, i don't remember finding that.
 
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Lackasham said:
I have a theory that God is everything in the universe. The universe is infinite as is God and the universe is expanding. So God is expanding? I believe God knows each path for the infinite amount of possibilities there are for each moment. So as time goes on and more moments are happening Gods infinite knowledge expands. Also this could explain a connection between religion and the scientific explanation of the universe(Big Bang theory) God is the universe so the Big Bang was a part of Gods plan. Possibly the division of good and evil? (Angels falling from heaven)

I think to many people have a stance that either science is right or religion is right but why can't both be correct?
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So what did you trip and write down your thoughts? or have you been reading Alan Watts or seomthing?

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Yeah what you said is all basically true, the way I see it- The universe is The Devil, he's lonely and miserable and self-loathing mostly- - he created God as "his better half" so to speak- and because of his bitter loneliness and supreme power and desire to evolve into a more stable and loving being ; lives viacariously through us, humans who posses the knowledge of good and evil (thanks to the serpent (satan) who "tricked" adam and eve into taking the fruit) Then he re-integrates these life experiences back into his psyche possibly to evolve- or just uses human life and earth as a virtual type reality to escape his utter isolation

We are all one consciousness. All the Matter and Energy combined equates to = ? something
 
What 23; the 6000 year thing could be relative time not necessarily an actual amount of earth time. The rest I'm not sure

Motiv331; although I enjoy tripping these are completely sober thoughts haha but if satan created the universe therefore creating the fruit taken by Eve how would he not already posses the knowledge of good and evil? And if the devil created everything where would the premise of good ever arise?
 
he created the universe within himself , there is no universe, its a lie its holographic ----

He is both God and Devil , he has good and evil within himself... there really is no such thing as evil except void which is null and void... we are the opposite of Nothingness, we are the somethingness
 
^What if "good" and "evil" are subjective concepts?

I can subscribe to the concept that the universe is "god", but not so much that the universe as a whole possesses awareness or consciousness. There are conscious beings, yes. We (and other conscious beings) are products of the universe that enable the universe to be aware of itself. I agree with you in basic principle, but not in the details.
 
I havent worked out the exact details, all i know is i've experienced reality from the standpoint of that being - - and it was like floating in a paralyzing void of supreme nothingness and nobody for ever and on and on - - I was a tree shaped like a giant helix that never ended, my face was all over the tree and some sort of fruit which was popping off also had my face on it.... It was like TOO MUCH me everywhere! Looking back I was distressed over this trip for weeks afterwards, but years later I did more psychedelic drugs and I was able to understand/integrate my younger experience(s) ....


Oh the loneliness was unbearable! Poor God, or Devil lol --- Life is crazy
 
Interesting motiv311.

But I'm confused, are you saying Satan and "The Devil" are not the same?

Also I don't know about "evil". I don't see it as some other side.
 
I think the Universe is a very life-like holograph with set rules and laws made as an alternative reality for us to play and learn in.

As well as for God to learn through us, or a way he grows.

While true reality is something other than that - still God is present in every spark - or where there is life.

I think I've become a Mystic.

So I guess I can die now. Or stay to teach if I want.
 
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To my understanding, if you have lived a reasonably good, normal life, and come to the end of your days, you return to "Heaven" which is where you were created and really belong. Then you know you're home and regain all your memory of everything that has happened to you since you were created. You then see your human life for what it was (an experiment/learning experience).

But if there's some foul play involved, like you've lived an especially dark life, killed someone, or even been killed yourself (by yourself or others), it seems you can get stuck in the lower Astral realm or 4th dimension for quite some time, which is quite hellish, and where demons and evil, tortured spirits reside. It seems like you need to gradually work your way up to higher levels of the 4th dimension on your own power, until you reach the 5th dimension, or the human heaven.

The angelic heaven is supposed to be located in the 6th dimension, and certain highly evolved souls, like Christ and Archangel Michael are supposed to reside in the 7th dimension, or the dimension where God's presence is strongest.
 
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