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Oh aye - just like Bonzo's kick drum, certain things get sampled consistently for a reason.

I just think it's ironic that sampling, which was supposed to blast the musical doors off their hinges, has actually resulted in an extremely narrow palate of sounds, to the extent that you get the exact same drum breaks being used continuously and nobody seems to complain! :D

Such is life, I guess.

It did used to blast the doors off their hinges, sadly not anymore unless people do it properly, prodigys first 3 albums were entirely samples i think. proper sampling, genius

Making of "The Prodigy - Smack My Bitch Up" in Ableton by Jim Pavloff
 
I have a lot of time for the Mondays. Though naturally they were better before they sold out to disco.

Agreed, but I find Black Grape more palatable. Shake Your Money and In the Name of the Father are classics, imo. Not to discredit the Mondays.
 
Black Grape were a lot more fully realised, whereas the Mondays tended to hit a groove and then stay there because they weren't musically able to leave it!

I have a very strong memory of listening to Shake Your Money in an empty classroom I should't have been in. I'm going to pretend that it wasn't nearly 20 years ago.
 
Black Grape were a lot more fully realised, whereas the Mondays tended to hit a groove and then stay there because they weren't musically able to leave it!

I have a very strong memory of listening to Shake Your Money in an empty classroom I should't have been in. I'm going to pretend that it wasn't nearly 20 years ago.

Yeah, Mondays were a bit more of a mess, sonically, and veered from greatness to unlistenable. I always had a soft spot for Bez and his little endearing engine that could spirit. lol. Sorry, I misread your last sentence as your memory being of you 'dancing' to 'Shake Your Money' in some clandestine classroom. Sounded rather tawdry at first, then I realized I was just a dumb ass with reading comprehension problems. Still, I always sing along to that one, even try to sound Manchester. "Everybuudy wonts ta get busy...countin muney maykes me fookin deizzee..." Hope that wasn't offensive, lol. I try my best. I'm better at Brummie aka. "Eye'll be roight 'eyah!" Probably didn't do myself any favors there, either. On that note, I'll exit, stage left... And, Christ, we are getting old, no? Fuck. K, off to go drown my sorrows... laterz. ;)
 
"Everybuudy wonts ta get busy...countin muney maykes me fookin deizzee..." Hope that wasn't offensive, lol. I try my best.

That's actually not bad at all. :D

How come anytime I show up to work with energy and (near) enthusiasm, I'm always scuppered by something or other?

I have to spend a couple of hours making what sounds like a lame excuse about waiting for parts and labour costings now. Nobody will believe that I'm not just on the internet making puerile jokes or something.
 
I find that the Manc accent is a partcilularly tricky one to nail reliably and consistently for imitations, i can wait for the fwking bws in this areo, but its a tricky one with its own rythym and almost musicality. And thats the Shameless version of Manc, the way the character Debbie speaks it, which is quite different to the way her father in the show speaks his version of Manc.

Not surprisingly Welsh accents are my strong point as i grew up there, if i listened to anyone from any part of wales for a minute i could do their accent. Used to be able to do good Scouse, Geordie, Bristol, Brummie, the Royal families Queens received pronounciation english, and cockney accents, but lost the abilty to do them consistently now for some reason. Never been able to do any convincing American, Australian or South African accents.
 
I find that the Manc accent is a partcilularly tricky one to nail reliably and consistently for imitations, i can wait for the fwking bws in this areo, but its a tricky one with its own rythym and almost musicality. And thats the Shameless version of Manc, the way the character Debbie speaks it, which is quite different to the way her father in the show speaks his version of Manc.

Yeah. There are several distinct Manc accents, and then a thousand different hybrids of those subtypes. I don't say 'aree-oh'; I say it more like 'aree-ah' / 'aree-uh', but a hell of a lot softer than somebody from Ashton might pronounce the 'uh'.

Somebody from the south is likely to miss those not-very-subtle subtleties and lapse into that one 'northern' accent that they do. Y'know, the one which seems to flit between Yorkshire and Lancashire without ever sounding anything like Manchester. Either that, or the Liam accent, which nobody actually speaks in.

Like everybody, I tend to think my accent is a lot less distinctively regional than it is.

Oh, and only somebody from Wales would render 'bus' as 'bws' in order to demonstrate Manc pronunciation, but I see what you mean. :D

No need to change it though - the pronunciation of 'bus' around here is pretty correct. It's these idiots catching the 'bas' who are losing their grip on the language.
 
I would pay good money to see an American - any American - singing Mondays/Black Grape covers in a Mancunian accent.

Look, if you guys get the voice recorder thing sorted, I'll sing Shake your Money in my butchered version of a Mancurian drawl for free - consider it a gift (or punishment, depending. Though laughter is the greatest gift of all.) I've given up on having much shame anymore. b/c who really gives a shit. I'd be curious to hear people have a go at an east coast/NY accent as payment, I guess? My husband STILL can't say hard Rs like in eveR after 5 years, bless him. So I challenge you ALL to a duel of sorts...
 
That's actually not bad at all. :D

How come anytime I show up to work with energy and (near) enthusiasm, I'm always scuppered by something or other?

I have to spend a couple of hours making what sounds like a lame excuse about waiting for parts and labour costings now. Nobody will believe that I'm not just on the internet making puerile jokes or something.

Phew, I was glad that it would come off totally offensive or just plain wrong. Ran it buy my husband first, and even listened to the track once for good measure to make sure I got the nuances as best as I could. Glad it wasn't the disaster I anticipated, lol.

I'm sure you'll make good use of your time. Can you dick about on the internet or make pretend/realish phone calls? I used to be a P.A. and would LOVE when I'd get an answering machine instead of dealing with a real, honest to goodness douchebag (trust me, they all were at that job) - I technically was doing my job without those pesky social interactions that just cramp my style, ha. No internet tomfoolery there, either. I tried emailing my husband once, like a two sentence vent session, and got snuck up on by my scary cat lady boss. Not good.
 
Look, if you guys get the voice recorder thing sorted, I'll sing Shake your Money in my butchered version of a Mancurian drawl for free - consider it a gift (or punishment, depending. Though laughter is the greatest gift of all.) I've given up on having much shame anymore. b/c who really gives a shit. I'd be curious to hear people have a go at an east coast/NY accent as payment, I guess? My husband STILL can't say hard Rs like in eveR after 5 years, bless him. So I challenge you ALL to a duel of sorts...

Gauntlet is laid.

*Disclaimer* I couldn't record my own voice if I wanted to cos I have no microphone or other means of recording. Not just being curmudgeonly. Honest.
 
Yeah, I always found nothern/north of midlands accents quite musical. I know that's a blanket observation, but I had a hard time telling Manchester from Scouse for a bit - but scouse is a bit more shrill/sharp to me and manchester is more oooooh imo with the vowels? Dunno how off that is. Both have a musicality. And Geordie sounded so thick to me the first time I encountered it. I'm fine at understanding it now, unless I'm viewing Geordie Shore and in that case I don't WANT to understand what they're saying - I caught one of the girls talking about getting a 'wide on' (new term to me) over some gorilla looking creature and I can't unhear that. The term and the inflection. Though I spent some time in Carlisle before we went to Scotland on our honeymoon and I found the accents softer there and people friendly overall.

I'm good too at picking up London/cockney accents, newscaster posh accents moderately well (though would like to improve, feels cartoonish to me) and Yorkshire ones too (they tend to say 'luuuuve' like that, right?) Again, apologies for simplifying, I just find it interesting. When I first started talking to my husband, we'd send voice messages to one another and mess about with accents. I nailed a Jersey guido one before Jersey Shore was even a figment in someone's vacant soul. He didn't know what one was at the time, so it was an education. I also would get confused when he'd say 'us' meaning him/me. I'd be like 'who else is there?' haha. 'Alright' as a greeting took a bit, too. I didn't know what he was saying at first, and even when I did, it took a few times for it to feel familiar. Now I say it too, along with 'Oi', 'chuffed', 'knackered', 'quid', 'wanker', 'wankstain', 'tosser', and an even more wide reaching, enriched vocabulary of excellent slang. You guys win on that. We have douchebag, which I'm proud of, or the simplified 'douche', but I think UK terms/disses have more panache to them.

And for real, I'd love to hear you all have a go at US accents. Just harden the vowels and soften the 'h's. People always think I'm Irish when I'm in the UK or seem taken aback for a second when I talk b/c I think they don't expect an accent to pop out of me, especially in the midlands.

Somebody from the south is likely to miss those not-very-subtle subtleties and lapse into that one 'northern' accent that they do. Y'know, the one which seems to flit between Yorkshire and Lancashire without ever sounding anything like Manchester. Either that, or the Liam accent, which nobody actually speaks in.

Like everybody, I tend to think my accent is a lot less distinctively regional than it is.

Oh, and only somebody from Wales would render 'bus' as 'bws' in order to demonstrate Manc pronunciation, but I see what you mean. :D

No need to change it though - the pronunciation of 'bus' around here is pretty correct. It's these idiots catching the 'bas' who are losing their grip on the language.

I think that's what I do w/ Northern accents, flit. I hope I don't pull a Liam. Please you have permission to make me carry out the most embarrassing dare you can imagine if I ever do such a thing. And Bus is the same as back home. Only Bostonites say BAS or CAAAHR or PAHHHHK THA CAAAAH. Not to rag, and not all, but the hardcore, Boston pride types. It's pretty entertaining when you're stuck in a Boston bar full of drunk beantown enthusiasts singing Bon Jovi (true story). I don't sound too NEW YAWK. I'm more refined, but can get ghetto if my temper comes out, I've been told.

Anyway, sorry to go on, I find this interesting. Thanks for the clarifications and perhaps one day we can all humiliate ourselves together! I wait with baited breath, ha.
 
Gauntlet is laid.

*Disclaimer* I couldn't record my own voice if I wanted to cos I have no microphone or other means of recording. Not just being curmudgeonly. Honest.

Understood and no hard feelings. I have no problem humiliating myself for the greater good, so long as it evokes laughter and not annoyance at my lack of skillz.
 
^ A fine attitude to have - look forward to hearing it =D

(it's not for the purposes of simply mocking americans, incidentally. more cos the two things are so utterly different and just shouldn't work at all - i might actually be mildly disappointed if it does, in fact. but will also be impressed at accent skills. i know i'd sound ridiculous trying to pull off a mancunian accent... not that that ever stops me - am very partial to a comedy northern accent, me, and can become habit-forming to indulge in them)

... Now I say it too, along with 'Oi', 'chuffed', 'knackered', 'quid', 'wanker', 'wankstain', 'tosser', and an even more wide reaching, enriched vocabulary of excellent slang. You guys win on that. We have douchebag, which I'm proud of, or the simplified 'douche', but I think UK terms/disses have more panache to them.

I'm perhaps a bit biased but tend to agree. One thing we are good at in Blighty is mild-moderate obscenities and abuse. I've noticed of late that quite a lot of traditionally UK-specific slang is being picked up in the US cos I keep hearing it used in US shows where it never used to be. I presume it's a result of interwebz interconnectedness - people from different countries get to hear and see much more of how the "normal" people from other countries actually use language as opposed to being limited to Dick Van Dyke-style cartoonish attempts to encapsulate dialect and accent. It makes a nice change for a bit of cultural capital to be spreading t'other way for a change so am all for it. That and it tends to sound hilarious until you get used to hearing it. I can just about deal with the word "bloody" in various American accents now as it seems to be becoming fairly widespread - at least I hear it fairly frequently now and certainly never used to. I will never accept the far-too-frequent mispronunciation of the very fine word "twat" though. It does not, never has, never will and never should be rhymed with "cot" - just sound horribly wrong like that and am glad to have spotted a number of examples of correct pronunciation recently ('twat' rhymes with 'cat' - I know I don't need to tell you as UK slang appears to be a minor area of study for you, but for any other passing US folk).

I remember when we didn't really use the distinctly American word "motherfucker" in Blighty. At least I'd never heard it used by anybody until sometime around the mid-80s when it started to crop up now and then. It sounded utterly ridiculous in a British accent - any British accent - for the longest time but has definitely been assimilated since. Not sure if it actually sounds right now or I've just gotten used to it. Still has a distinctly American feel to it somehow but even in a very English English accent like my own I'm quite happy to use it myself and don't fall about laughing at my own ridonculousness. Not often anyway.
 
I particularly dislike the term "fucking A" used frequently by a friend of a friend who spent too much time in the 90s in America being a groupie.

I particularly like the use of "wanksplash" by friend but he is quite posh and it is certainly more comical when said by the likes of one born with a silver spoon in ones mewth!
 
I caught one of the girls talking about getting a 'wide on' (new term to me) over some gorilla looking creature and I can't unhear that. The term and the inflection.

I'll bet! I've never heard that term either, thankfully. Until now. =D

Only Bostonites say BAS or CAAAHR or PAHHHHK THA CAAAAH. Not to rag, and not all, but the hardcore, Boston pride types. It's pretty entertaining when you're stuck in a Boston bar full of drunk beantown enthusiasts singing Bon Jovi (true story). I don't sound too NEW YAWK. I'm more refined, but can get ghetto if my temper comes out, I've been told.

Hey, I'd love to be able to slip into ghetto NEW YAWK, angry or not!

I don't envy you the Boston Bon Jovi experience though. 8(
 
+1 on 'yo dude', 'fucking A' and 'motherfucker' sounding wrong in any British accent.

I was unfortunate enough to know a lot of people on the skating scene in the nineties, all of whom tended to be firmly middle class, and all of whom attempted to use Californian yoofspeak to the horror (and amusement) of all within earshot. The kids who were into their hip hop were pretty embarrassing for it too.

Radical, Tarquin.
 
I particularly dislike the term "fucking A" used frequently by a friend of a friend who spent too much time in the 90s in America being a groupie.

I particularly like the use of "wanksplash" by friend but he is quite posh and it is certainly more comical when said by the likes of one born with a silver spoon in ones mewth!

I've never heard the latter. 'Dicksplash' was very common during my yoofdom in particular though. Regional variance perhaps.

I totally agree on the 'fucking A' thing too. Horrid term used by horrid people. Horridly.
 
Theres people around here that act like their from london or something, i think its something to do with grime music, "wagwan" and "tings" and various other shite words. Devonshire yokel acting like a fackin rudeboi m8

oh wait that wagwan etc is Jamaican slang aint it... fuck knows
 
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