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Misc GHB to replace alcohol

Bsiren

Bsiren

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Hey all, I have not been on here in aggggggges!

Long story short, I have developed an issue of severe vertigo lasting up to a week when I drink any alcohol.

My goal is to stay as safe as possible, and being that alcohol has started causing adverse effects in me, I see this as a much less dehydrating and safer option. It's also kinder on the liver from my research.

Considering GHB is likened to alcohol more than any other drug (I've never tried it, have no idea how I'll get to try it at this point), I am wondering if anyone uses it as a substitute experience for alcohol?

I am aware that it is extremely dose sensitive, and cannot be mixed with alcohol under any conditions.

Is it fun interacting with drunk people while on it? Can you use it as a "club" drug?

I want to have fun, but be safe and avoid harm in the process. I miss alcohol, but the after effects are unbearable.
 
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yeah you can use it as a substitute... tastes very salty though, you might not like it.
a "girly" mixer drink like a long island will taste much better but i guess that's out of the question for you.
 
Ive thought about doing the same thing, but I think its pretty easy to get physically dependent on that shit....IMO, weed is really the best substitute for just about everything addictive....takin a few maintenance puffs throughout the day can work wonders, but if you're not used to it, it initially can cause some anxiety and weirdness...also getting some stuff thats of medium potency seems to be the best to use....
 
GHB is a fantastic replacement to alcohol. It is much easier on the body and way more euphoric with no comedown.

Just stay away from dosing daily and you will be fine. [
 
GHB is non-toxic as opposed to alcohol which is highly toxic. Their effects are similar, but GHB provides much greater euphoria, sociability and intense pro-sexual effects. It's also often used as a club drug with great success.

Things to watch for are dependence, addiction, and withdrawal as it has withdrawal symptoms which are equally severe to alcohol. Dosing also tends to be a huge issue with GHB, especially when it's bought in ready liquid with an anonymous potency. It's always best to be familiar with the batch of GHB you currently possess before you decide to take it in public, because even though the overdose is benign, to onlookers it resembles a coma.
 
GHB is pretty much better than alcohol in every possible way. So long as you know what you're doing, I fully support the replacement of alcohol with GHB.

It's much more euphoric+enjoyable and much less harmful. Basically non-existing hangover. And even full blown GHB addiction is safer than alcohol addiction, although clearly both are undesirable. I do it as much as I can. Fuck yeah :)
 
From your stomach, GI tract and livers point of view, GHB is alot better. However the effects in the GABA complex of the brain although similar have a few differences. Mainly in that GHB is alot more selective then alcohol in where its binds. So the effects although almost indentical will be slightly different. The main issue with GHB is that its very dose sensitive, if you are planning to use it on a night out then measure out any doses into a separate container and take that with you and leave the bottle at home as otherwise a blackout will be on the cards as you will forget that youve had a dose and will take another etc etc until you blackout. Remember GHB is the original date rape drug, the drug that rohypnol wishes it was!lol also as others have said be careful not to do it too often as addiction is a major bitch and imo GHB and alcohol addiction are equally as nasty to go though.
 
GHB is a very pleasant drug if you are careful with dosing.
I do however find, that it effects my mood in a very negative way most of the week after using in the weekend. I get angry and annoyed very easily, which is very out of character for me. I have completely stopped using GHB because of this.
 
FlippingTop said:
GHB is a fantastic replacement to alcohol. It is much easier on the body and way more euphoric with no comedown.

Just stay away from dosing daily and you will be fine. [
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Yeah GHB is a way better thing to use then alcohol for sure. And Flipping Top is so right when it comes to daily dosing. Please be careful because it feels so good that you might be tempted like I did do and then I was dosing every 2-3 hours 24-7 for at least 6 months straight. It was hard not to be without that feeling and not caring about anything at all. It makes life and music so fucking amazing. But for me coming off of it is not any where near the withdrawl one gets from alcohol where alcoholics get the Delirium Tremors and could posssibly die when they detox off it.

On a side note - I went to a rehab in arizona back in 2000 and the doctor there when I mentioned the drugs I had been using stopped me when I mentioned I was drinking lots of GHB. He looked at me very seriously and said "You know GHB is good for you don't you?". I said yes because I knew Body Builders used it for Growth Hormone releasing benefits and to get solid sleep where their bodies repaired quicker after training. But it was pretty cool to hear a doctor actually tell the truth about something that has been so demonized by the government agencies.

I have not had a dose of G in 6 or 7 years. I might just have to try it again sometime because it is so much better when your out for a night dancing and having fun and interacting with people then alcohol ever was. I miss it alot. Especially the High Grade Powder GHB. Now thats the best!!!!!
 
Thanks for the feedback guys!

This is helpful! I knew it was a popular drug among body builders, I just did not know why.

I have developed a severe lengthy response to alcohol- I used to drink once a week or less, but the vertigo issues it causes for me make it out of the question. It sucks, I manage night life events, and all my drunk friends are all getting down and having fun, and I've tried to substitute by doing cocaine, but I find myself wanting to converse and on a totally different wavelength. I adore MDMA and will only save it for very special occasions as it's absolutely necessary to space itout.

I don't mind salty gross flavors, I've chewed MDMA before, and after that, I feel like everything tastes like Nutella ;P

It's extremely expensive (note: I am not discussing price, simply a statement), but considering the cost of alcohol here in LA, it's possibly worth it!
 
Have you discussed your vertigo issue with a doctor yet? I ask because you said this is a problem that has started when you drink so I guess you havnt always had this issue with alcohol? You might have a inner ear type of problem for example, thats not noticable when your sober but becomes apparent when your drunk. I could be completely wrong (probably am.lol) but it occurred to me earlier so thought id mention it.
 
bunge said:
Remember GHB is the original date rape drug,
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I strongly disagree with this. IMO alcohol is the original date rape drug. I'll go out on a limb and say that GHB was never commonly used for this purpose. I feel it was mislabeled as such by sensationalist media cunts.

That said, I agree with everone else that it is a much healthier alternative to alcohol. IDK about safer though. The dose reponse curve is steeper for GHB, and dependency seems to develop very quickly. So be careful in that regard.

And OP, if you enjoy MDMA try out some GHB right after the peak. Nice combo.%)
 
Lol that is the funniest thing iv ever heard take a few maintenance puffs through out the day hahaha I jus got done smoking an I just laughed so hard reading that rofl
 
Some studies (on mice) suggest that GHB is neurotoxic, is there some kind of harm reduction protocol for GHB users?
(besides the most obvious like not dosing everyday and/or in huge quantity...)
 
I've read that its neurotoxicity was only seen at low doses, and that was only in rats. I believe I also read that GHB has neuroprotective properties in humans. I can't locate the sources right now though.
 
Some recent stuff :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250641

Several studies point to an increase in the number of incidents arising from the risky use of GHB or from a GHB overdose. Other drugs, such as ketamine and alcohol, are known to cause neurotoxicity, leading to cognitive impairment. As outlined in this review article, GHB , alcohol and ketamine show clear similarities in their mechanism of action. This suggests that GHB might have almost the same neurotoxic effects as ketamine and alcohol. An overdose of GHB, just like binge-drinking and a high dose of ketamine, may lead to a coma that probably harms the brain, particularly if comas occur repeatedly
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The rat study :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19288974

We examined in male rats the effect of repeated administration of GHB (10 and 100 mg/kg) on various parameters: neurological damage, working memory and spatial memory, using neurological tests, the Morris water maze and the hole-board test. The results showed that repeated administration of GHB, especially at doses of 10 mg/kg, causes neurological damage, affecting the 'grasping' reflex, as well as alteration in spatial and working memories. Stereological quantification showed that this drug produces a drastic neuronal loss in the CA1 hippocampal region and in the prefrontal cortex, two areas clearly involved in cognitive and neurological functions. No effects were noted after quantification in the periaqueductal grey matter (PAG), a region lacking GHB receptors. Moreover, NCS-382, a putative antagonist of GHB receptor, prevented both neurological damage and working- memory impairment induced by GHB. This suggests that the effects of administration of this compound may be mediated, at least partly, by specific receptors in the nervous system. The results show for the first time that the repeated administration of GHB, especially at very low doses, produces neurotoxic effects. This is very relevant because its abuse, especially by young persons, could produce considerable neurological alterations after prolonged abuse.
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^ Both studies are not comparative and show no proof that GHB is more neurotoxic than alcohol. In the case of overdoses...are you kidding? It's like saying that if you stick the razor into your throat you will bleed...no shit...the point is to do a clean shave.

GHB is unpopular because some people dose it to unsuspecting and unconsenting women to rape their asses out. That's all there is.
 
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GHB is unpopular because some people dose it to unsuspecting and unconsenting women to rape their asses out. That's all there is.
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That's why it's illegal. G is plenty popular. It's use as a "date rape drug" was wildly exaggerated by the media in the 90's.
 
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