Limitbreaker
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Before I start, I haven't yet obtained them and they should be mine by tomorrow. Whatever dosage I want. And in before people talking about how codeine/DHC doesn't work, 150mg of codeine will get me high. I have none to low opioid tolerance. I still get great euphoria etc. and never used them more than a few times in a month, never the very next day.
Now, I have tried codeine over a dozen times before, in various doses, 150mg (most often), 300mg (just a few times) and 450mg (two times). I never took it too often. I've tried moving up with my dose to see if I can achieve greater effects. 300mg would get me higher than 150mg, more "fucked up" feeling than just calm and very relaxed, however 450mg was a total waste - paying for one more 150mg pack the jump from 300mg to 450mg just wasn't worth the price, there wasn't increased euphoria or anything, and since codeine high is short, I'd rather save up that additional 150mg for another occasion.
After few tries with 300mg, I've realized I was getting enough from just 150mg and by doing 300s I'd only increase my tolerance. Also started to boost 150mg codeine experiences by using some methoxy, which worked just fine as long as I was careful with dose.
I've never came back to higher doses than 150mg cause I didn't really need them. However, lately, I've found a few medications in my stash, long forgotten in Mordor. Those were: baclofen, clarithromicyne, doxepin and naproxen. After searching through a few guides, wikis and stuff like that for few hours, the decision was set: I'm going to try 300mg and potentiate it as well. Clarithromicyne was supposed to inhibit CYP3A4 (--> more morphine), and doxepin I've used as a substitute to typical antihistamines. Also it could improve euphoria but it's interactions aren't documented at all, while clarithromycin is known for being strong inhibitor.
The complete mix included (not recommended): clarithromicyne 0,5g, methoxetamine ~20mg, baclofen 20mg, naproxen 250mg, doxepin 25mg all oral 30 minutes before taking codeine. 300mg was extracted CWE and taken per rectum. Coming up strong and fast. After 10 minutes or so, I was having a nice time with the best opioid high I've ever gotten - those 300mg potentiated were stronger by any 450mg I've taken, I also had 40mg morphine I.V. once, and it still felt warm as hell, a lovely hell to be precise. I felt very good body-high, and my mind was to my suprise not as clouded as I'd think after mixing baclofen with methoxetamine. I hadn't any difficulty breathing. 5 minutes into the peak, I took .5mg clonazepam to make the experience even noddier. I had hard time moving my ass somewhere. In what this experience differed from usual 300mg as well, was that it felt much more like if I ingested morphine, not codeine. Friend came to my house, I decided to smoke a small marijuana hit. That one hit made everything even more beautiful. Later on I took 20mg ethylphenidate I think as I didn't want to fall asleep. I did anyway, that 20mg was like nonexistent. Just to remind you all - I'm fine, nothing else happened besides sleeping for 20 hours right after high ended, I didn't have trouble breathing. More like I had problem feeling too good.
Now I know that the mix was risky and dangerous, however I thought about using some o those potentiators again, in my first DHC try. However I'm putting off dangerous and unnecessary substances: baclofen, naproxen, ethylphenidate depending on how sleepy I feel, my goal is to achieve nodding and not to fall asleep. I only had one nod on opioids from codeine mixed with buphedrone, pfPP and one beer (nodding wasn't intended actually), and it was one of the most beautiful things in the world. Ever since that 2 hour nod, I'm chasing to achieve that state by going up and up...
If the DHC and codeine metabolic paths are the same, clarithromicyne would stay, as I believe it was the main ingredient in the mix that caused my high so damn warm and so damn good, by making codeine convert more into morphine or so... I'm not up-to-date with newest theories about codeine's metabolism, but I'm sure the high felt much more like morphine, especially in strenght.
Methoxetamine - stays or gets replaced by another arylcyclohexamine, I have a few at hand, though I'm more experienced with methoxetamine so I'd rather use it than something I haven't even had more than a couple experiences with.
Clonazepam - not sure on this one, while I believe higher doses would lead to fucking up opioid high, 0.5mg feels perfect for that finishing touch on relaxing my muscles and everything, and could help with the nods. What do you think? That's the only benzo I've got.
Baclofen - unnecessary, can diminish euphoria or high in general, and adds up way too much sleepiness for me.
Doxepin - not sure. In my country, the only OTC 1st generation antihistamines are dimenhydrinate/diphenhydramine, which are practically the very same thing. Promethazine is unavailable to me. Since I don't like excessive itching (which I get from codeine doses over 300mg), for a period of time I've been using cetirizine (it's neutral to CNS, but effective against itching), being unsure about dimen/diphen - opinions are really mixed, many say it dulls the high which is something I don't want. In case of this particular high, I had no itching at all, so doxepin worked well but it's still an antidepressant and who knows what interactions it may have. It surely increases sedation according to the wiki. I think I'd be fine using it again this one more time, cause I think messing up with antidepressants for longer periods may put me in danger. Just one more mix...
Marijuana - hell yes. Peaking on this high, a small toke taken, feeling even more relaxed than I could ever possibly imagine.
Ethylphenidate - I think that if I feel too drowsy/sleepy, taking 5-10mg nasally or 25-30mg orally would do the trick without actually stimulating me. Again, I aim for the nods. Won't stop until I find them.
There are couple of issues though:
1. It's DHC Continus. How to break time release, or at least weaken it enough so I don't have to wait for full effects 2 hours?
2. It's DHC Continus. I'm used to taking codeine rectally, cause it acts even faster than orally and I don't need empty stomach for that. It's somewhat related to point one, cause if I were to take DHC rectally (to improve bioavability, onset, strenght etc.), I'd need to put it into solution. Not sure how those matrixes and stuff would 'work' in my anus... lol.
3. The dose. As I said, I feel great from just 150mg codeine, but that time I've taken 300mg with potentiators. I really want this one to be special, I believe S&S for opioids is just as important as for other drugs. So I don't want to redose unnecessarily. I thought about 240mg, what do you think?
4. Rectal administration. Some guys on google say plugging DHC would bypass 1st-pass metabolism, thus potentially decreasing quantity of DHC converted to DHM (dihydromorphine), thus making clarithromicyne as a potentiator useless. But that didn't seem the case with my experience - it was the strongest true opiate feeling I've ever had, and it lasted for quite a while, longer than plain codeine. Remind you I took 300mg rectally.
Sorry for such a long story, and this is not what do I take thread - I only want to potentiate the shit out of DHC and see how great it can actually be.
Edit: by methoxy I mean methoxetamine.
Now, I have tried codeine over a dozen times before, in various doses, 150mg (most often), 300mg (just a few times) and 450mg (two times). I never took it too often. I've tried moving up with my dose to see if I can achieve greater effects. 300mg would get me higher than 150mg, more "fucked up" feeling than just calm and very relaxed, however 450mg was a total waste - paying for one more 150mg pack the jump from 300mg to 450mg just wasn't worth the price, there wasn't increased euphoria or anything, and since codeine high is short, I'd rather save up that additional 150mg for another occasion.
After few tries with 300mg, I've realized I was getting enough from just 150mg and by doing 300s I'd only increase my tolerance. Also started to boost 150mg codeine experiences by using some methoxy, which worked just fine as long as I was careful with dose.
I've never came back to higher doses than 150mg cause I didn't really need them. However, lately, I've found a few medications in my stash, long forgotten in Mordor. Those were: baclofen, clarithromicyne, doxepin and naproxen. After searching through a few guides, wikis and stuff like that for few hours, the decision was set: I'm going to try 300mg and potentiate it as well. Clarithromicyne was supposed to inhibit CYP3A4 (--> more morphine), and doxepin I've used as a substitute to typical antihistamines. Also it could improve euphoria but it's interactions aren't documented at all, while clarithromycin is known for being strong inhibitor.
The complete mix included (not recommended): clarithromicyne 0,5g, methoxetamine ~20mg, baclofen 20mg, naproxen 250mg, doxepin 25mg all oral 30 minutes before taking codeine. 300mg was extracted CWE and taken per rectum. Coming up strong and fast. After 10 minutes or so, I was having a nice time with the best opioid high I've ever gotten - those 300mg potentiated were stronger by any 450mg I've taken, I also had 40mg morphine I.V. once, and it still felt warm as hell, a lovely hell to be precise. I felt very good body-high, and my mind was to my suprise not as clouded as I'd think after mixing baclofen with methoxetamine. I hadn't any difficulty breathing. 5 minutes into the peak, I took .5mg clonazepam to make the experience even noddier. I had hard time moving my ass somewhere. In what this experience differed from usual 300mg as well, was that it felt much more like if I ingested morphine, not codeine. Friend came to my house, I decided to smoke a small marijuana hit. That one hit made everything even more beautiful. Later on I took 20mg ethylphenidate I think as I didn't want to fall asleep. I did anyway, that 20mg was like nonexistent. Just to remind you all - I'm fine, nothing else happened besides sleeping for 20 hours right after high ended, I didn't have trouble breathing. More like I had problem feeling too good.
Now I know that the mix was risky and dangerous, however I thought about using some o those potentiators again, in my first DHC try. However I'm putting off dangerous and unnecessary substances: baclofen, naproxen, ethylphenidate depending on how sleepy I feel, my goal is to achieve nodding and not to fall asleep. I only had one nod on opioids from codeine mixed with buphedrone, pfPP and one beer (nodding wasn't intended actually), and it was one of the most beautiful things in the world. Ever since that 2 hour nod, I'm chasing to achieve that state by going up and up...
If the DHC and codeine metabolic paths are the same, clarithromicyne would stay, as I believe it was the main ingredient in the mix that caused my high so damn warm and so damn good, by making codeine convert more into morphine or so... I'm not up-to-date with newest theories about codeine's metabolism, but I'm sure the high felt much more like morphine, especially in strenght.
Methoxetamine - stays or gets replaced by another arylcyclohexamine, I have a few at hand, though I'm more experienced with methoxetamine so I'd rather use it than something I haven't even had more than a couple experiences with.
Clonazepam - not sure on this one, while I believe higher doses would lead to fucking up opioid high, 0.5mg feels perfect for that finishing touch on relaxing my muscles and everything, and could help with the nods. What do you think? That's the only benzo I've got.
Baclofen - unnecessary, can diminish euphoria or high in general, and adds up way too much sleepiness for me.
Doxepin - not sure. In my country, the only OTC 1st generation antihistamines are dimenhydrinate/diphenhydramine, which are practically the very same thing. Promethazine is unavailable to me. Since I don't like excessive itching (which I get from codeine doses over 300mg), for a period of time I've been using cetirizine (it's neutral to CNS, but effective against itching), being unsure about dimen/diphen - opinions are really mixed, many say it dulls the high which is something I don't want. In case of this particular high, I had no itching at all, so doxepin worked well but it's still an antidepressant and who knows what interactions it may have. It surely increases sedation according to the wiki. I think I'd be fine using it again this one more time, cause I think messing up with antidepressants for longer periods may put me in danger. Just one more mix...
Marijuana - hell yes. Peaking on this high, a small toke taken, feeling even more relaxed than I could ever possibly imagine.
Ethylphenidate - I think that if I feel too drowsy/sleepy, taking 5-10mg nasally or 25-30mg orally would do the trick without actually stimulating me. Again, I aim for the nods. Won't stop until I find them.
There are couple of issues though:
1. It's DHC Continus. How to break time release, or at least weaken it enough so I don't have to wait for full effects 2 hours?
2. It's DHC Continus. I'm used to taking codeine rectally, cause it acts even faster than orally and I don't need empty stomach for that. It's somewhat related to point one, cause if I were to take DHC rectally (to improve bioavability, onset, strenght etc.), I'd need to put it into solution. Not sure how those matrixes and stuff would 'work' in my anus... lol.
3. The dose. As I said, I feel great from just 150mg codeine, but that time I've taken 300mg with potentiators. I really want this one to be special, I believe S&S for opioids is just as important as for other drugs. So I don't want to redose unnecessarily. I thought about 240mg, what do you think?
4. Rectal administration. Some guys on google say plugging DHC would bypass 1st-pass metabolism, thus potentially decreasing quantity of DHC converted to DHM (dihydromorphine), thus making clarithromicyne as a potentiator useless. But that didn't seem the case with my experience - it was the strongest true opiate feeling I've ever had, and it lasted for quite a while, longer than plain codeine. Remind you I took 300mg rectally.
Sorry for such a long story, and this is not what do I take thread - I only want to potentiate the shit out of DHC and see how great it can actually be.
Edit: by methoxy I mean methoxetamine.
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