GBL + Bromocriptine Combination?

[CoReCoNTAX]

I have been reading about this combination for a while now and looking into starting a test run soon. My understanding is that when GBL is taken there is an increase in GH (or technically when gamma hydroxybutyric is taken after the conversion) however the GH is blocked by the production of Prolactin. With the addition of Bromocriptine the Prolactin is blocked resulting in a much more sustained GH release from the GBL. My question is does anyone have any more information or experiences on this combination? there isn't much information on the 2 combined but here are a couple of links I found:

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...ay-very-potent-fat-burner-anabolic-41453.html

http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums/anabolic-steroids/47618-bromocriptine-profile

I am looking to dose my Bromocriptine at 1.25mg twice a day at the same time as GBL (1.5ml)

Many Thanks

 

[lemonskunk18]

my understanding is that the amount of gh released trumps the amount of prolactin that is released and so the gh properties are still effective.. after doing some reading i think that the bromocriptine would be effective at blacking the prolactin thus increasing the effectiveness of the gh aswell as causing some extra fat loss.. my concern would be the long term effects of the bromo on your prolactin levels..because prolactin enhances LH levels and helps to regulate them it may make your pct slightly more difficult, maybe ending the gbl&bromo a while before you do your pc and try using something to balance back out your prolactin? more reading is require... how long would you be running the cycle for, what dose would you run the test at?

 

[CoReCoNTAX]

my understanding is that the amount of gh released trumps the amount of prolactin that is released and so the gh properties are still effective.. after doing some reading i think that the bromocriptine would be effective at blacking the prolactin thus increasing the effectiveness of the gh aswell as causing some extra fat loss.. my concern would be the long term effects of the bromo on your prolactin levels..because prolactin enhances LH levels and helps to regulate them it may make your pct slightly more difficult, maybe ending the gbl&bromo a while before you do your pc and try using something to balance back out your prolactin? more reading is require... how long would you be running the cycle for, what dose would you run the test at?

Thanks for your reply. there are some terms in your response which I am unfamiliar with (LH, PCT and PC) I am looking to run the cycle for 4-6 weeks (maybe more) depending on noticeable gains. I started a test cycle today dosing at 1.25mg Bromocriptine twice a day, before meals and an hour before GBL intake, my GBL intake is 1.5ml. What could I use to balance the Prolactin?

 

[jhjhsdi]

I've also been reading alot about this combo recently.

This is my understanding so far;

GBL(GHB) increases your GH by inbetween x10 and x16, but GBL(GHB) also increases your prolactin, to such a point the raised GH is useless.
BUT
Taking Bromocriptine 1 hour before each GBL doses doesnt eliminate your prolactin it basically lowers it to the level it was at before the GBL increased it, thus, allowing you to actually benefit from the raised GH.
Aparently especially if you are on a roid cycle. Also because GBL can put you into an anabolic sleep state (where you grow the most) the raised GH during this will benefit GREATLY.

(in theory)

From my reading/understanding it would go like this;
Dose 1.25mg Bromocriptine, an hour later dose the GBL then 5 to 10 minutes later hit the gym, hard.
then
Dose 1.25mg Bromocriptine, an hour later dose the GBL then 5 to 10 minutes later go to bed/sleep.

I also read that timing with the dose is quite important to swing it towards the fat-loss or anabolic side.
And I found out that alot of deca users use bromocriptine, although I havent looked into why just yet. Any info from deca users?


PS CoReCoNTAX; PCT means post-cycle treatment (as in after a roid cycle the pct is nolvadex), im guessing PC just means post-cycle. Dunno about LH.

 

[lemonskunk18]

I've also been reading alot about this combo recently.

This is my understanding so far;

GBL(GHB) increases your GH by inbetween x10 and x16, but GBL(GHB) also increases your prolactin, to such a point the raised GH is useless.
BUT
Taking Bromocriptine 1 hour before each GBL doses doesnt eliminate your prolactin it basically lowers it to the level it was at before the GBL increased it, thus, allowing you to actually benefit from the raised GH.
Aparently especially if you are on a roid cycle. Also because GBL can put you into an anabolic sleep state (where you grow the most) the raised GH during this will benefit GREATLY.

(in theory)

From my reading/understanding it would go like this;
Dose 1.25mg Bromocriptine, an hour later dose the GBL then 5 to 10 minutes later hit the gym, hard.
then
Dose 1.25mg Bromocriptine, an hour later dose the GBL then 5 to 10 minutes later go to bed/sleep.

I also read that timing with the dose is quite important to swing it towards the fat-loss or anabolic side.
And I found out that alot of deca users use bromocriptine, although I havent looked into why just yet. Any info from deca users?


PS CoReCoNTAX; PCT means post-cycle treatment (as in after a roid cycle the pct is nolvadex), im guessing PC just means post-cycle. Dunno about LH.

badass man, good input... LH is Luteinizing hormone its responsible for test production.
im very interested in useing bromo now. but still think it would be important to restore natural prolactin levels.

the half life of bromo is 12-14 hrs so it would build up in your system expecially if your double dosing dialy... i guess you could use g to balance your levels back out? or an ssri would do it aswel i think trazadome maybe? this is all just speculation ofcourse

 

[jhjhsdi]

badass man, good input... LH is Luteinizing hormone its responsible for test production.
im very interested in useing bromo now. but still think it would be important to restore natural prolactin levels.

the half life of bromo is 12-14 hrs so it would build up in your system expecially if your double dosing dialy... i guess you could use g to balance your levels back out? or an ssri would do it aswel i think trazadome maybe? this is all just speculation ofcourse

Cheers, but I wouldnt personally go throwing more and more stuff into the equation, I have heard of unexpected deaths and parkinsonism coming with bromo if you're using it without a serious prolactin issue or overdoing it. But I havent seen this evidence mind. I thought it was quite rare and unused until I heard Deca users use it. I also read it makes your orgasms longer and more intense for the first few weeks haha

All Im saying is do serious research first.

Also i heard the half life of bromo was 20-30 hours, and with the GBL/Bromo combo you dose half a tab each time so only 1 a day.

 

[CoReCoNTAX]

I have been running this test cycle for 4days now, taking half a Bromocriptine tablet (1.25mg) in the morning, one hour before GBL (1.5ml) and food. Then I will usually dose GBL again before my workout which gives me a massively boosted performance. I will then carry on dosing up to 3-5 times throughout the day (Helping to consume much more protein every couple hours and perhaps allowing the amount of natural Prolactin to be restored?) until I take the other half of my Bromocriptine in the evening before bed.

I can honestly say that I feel a difference in both performance and recovery.

 

[jhjhsdi]

I have been running this test cycle for 4days now, taking half a Bromocriptine tablet (1.25mg) in the morning, one hour before GBL (1.5ml) and food. Then I will usually dose GBL again before my workout which gives me a massively boosted performance. I will then carry on dosing up to 3-5 times throughout the day (Helping to consume much more protein every couple hours and perhaps allowing the amount of natural Prolactin to be restored?) until I take the other half of my Bromocriptine in the evening before bed.

I can honestly say that I feel a difference in both performance and recovery.

Sounds good. This is basically what I'll be doing, although I will (try) to keep it down to only 2 doses of G a day, one before gym one before bed, in a few months when Im considering doing another cycle and more importantly, have more money!

 

[Renz Envy]

G also releases dopamine in lower doses, which theoretically should block prolactin. As your body metabolizes it (3 hours later) the "dopamine rebound" I believe reduces the amount of breast tissue that may build up while on higher doses.

I'll have to say that it's important to make the conversion of GBL to GHB. The body is no stranger to GHB as it's natural. On other boards, most everyone agrees that GHB is worth making the conversion.

Dosing G 2 times a day is risky business in my opinion. Props if you can pull it off without going into 24-7 dosing. It's definitely not a play toy, but a very hard drug with an underrated reputation.

 

[jhjhsdi]

I'll have to say that it's important to make the conversion of GBL to GHB. The body is no stranger to GHB as it's natural. On other boards, most everyone agrees that GHB is worth making the conversion.

I understand the body converts GBL into GHB after consumtion.

Dosing G 2 times a day is risky business in my opinion. Props if you can pull it off without going into 24-7 dosing. It's definitely not a play toy, but a very hard drug with an underrated reputation.

I will only be dosing 2 times a day as Im only going to buy enough to do so and if I decided to dose 3 times in a day then I would be leaving myself short.

 

[Titus]

I have been running this test cycle for 4days now, taking half a Bromocriptine tablet (1.25mg) in the morning, one hour before GBL (1.5ml) and food. Then I will usually dose GBL again before my workout which gives me a massively boosted performance. I will then carry on dosing up to 3-5 times throughout the day (Helping to consume much more protein every couple hours and perhaps allowing the amount of natural Prolactin to be restored?) until I take the other half of my Bromocriptine in the evening before bed.

I can honestly say that I feel a difference in both performance and recovery.

I'm very interested in updates from you around this. In particular the gbl and transitioning OFF cycle. I used to use GHB (If my understanding is correct, and I think it is, GBL basically converts into GHB in the body) and found that it was great for sleep but a BIOTCH to get back into a natural sleep cycle once I stopped using the GHB. I wasn't using it in the context of a cycle at all, let alone the combo you r using, but found it to be quite benefitial for sleep. I'm considering using GBL as a sleep aid at some point in the future as it's the best I have found (albeit short acting) but kicking it was tough so any continued updates you can provide would be quite useful to me. Good luck with your cycle bro!

 

[lemonskunk18]

Cheers, but I wouldnt personally go throwing more and more stuff into the equation, I have heard of unexpected deaths and parkinsonism coming with bromo if you're using it without a serious prolactin issue or overdoing it. But I havent seen this evidence mind. I thought it was quite rare and unused until I heard Deca users use it. I also read it makes your orgasms longer and more intense for the first few weeks haha

All Im saying is do serious research first.

Also i heard the half life of bromo was 20-30 hours, and with the GBL/Bromo combo you dose half a tab each time so only 1 a day.

so you think one dose of 1.25 mg daily would be efficient in reducing the prolactine released post g intake? ionly intend to use the g at night as i was to mess around with igf and dose that post work out... i think that coming off the bromo and lettingthe g replenish if you will the prolactine would work, also take trazadome for sleep and that causes rises in prolactine levels, you think i should stop the trazadome? im going to look into sides and long term use of bromo first before anything gets going, but so far all ive found is minor are rare sides.

 

[Renz Envy]

I understand the body converts GBL into GHB after consumtion.

I meant to make the conversion before consuming it.

 

[islander20]

How can you lift after dosing GHB? I get pretty wasted off it, couldn't imagine lifting in that state...

 

[Artificial Emotion]

You're not the first person to think of this and all I can say is that despite the theory, of which you're basing on very little clinical data, it doesn't seem to work in practice.

 

[CoReCoNTAX]

How can you lift after dosing GHB? I get pretty wasted off it, couldn't imagine lifting in that state...

I find at the right dose Gbl gives me a boosted confidence and some sort of, what i like to call, G Rage! The boosted confidence helps me to aim my goals higher mentally and physically which in turn helps me to push more and heavier.

 

[CoReCoNTAX]

You're not the first person to think of this and all I can say is that despite the theory, of which you're basing on very little clinical data, it doesn't seem to work in practice.

So you've tried this before?

 

[CoReCoNTAX]

I'm very interested in updates from you around this. In particular the gbl and transitioning OFF cycle. I used to use GHB (If my understanding is correct, and I think it is, GBL basically converts into GHB in the body) and found that it was great for sleep but a BIOTCH to get back into a natural sleep cycle once I stopped using the GHB. I wasn't using it in the context of a cycle at all, let alone the combo you r using, but found it to be quite benefitial for sleep. I'm considering using GBL as a sleep aid at some point in the future as it's the best I have found (albeit short acting) but kicking it was tough so any continued updates you can provide would be quite useful to me. Good luck with your cycle bro!

I will keep on updating this thread as much as possible, I have cut my GBL dosage down as I was beginning to use more than necessary for the cycle, I can confirm that I have seen gains already and I have also managed to start lifting heavier weights. In terms of sleep I always found that if GBL was used at an amount which would aid you to sleep but not actually knock you out, you would not get the extreme dopamine rebound. This in turn would enable you to sleep throughout the whole night (AND get some of that deep anabolic state sleep) instead of waking up around the 3hour mark after dosing. Thanks for your interest.

 

[jhjhsdi]

I meant to make the conversion before consuming it.

Sorry but I don't see the point of going through the conversion process if it just does it after being consumed anyway, unless you REALLY hate the taste of GBL.

You're not the first person to think of this and all I can say is that despite the theory, of which you're basing on very little clinical data, it doesn't seem to work in practice.

Care to elaborate?

 

[Artificial Emotion]

So you've tried this before?

Yes. These days I'm not into bodybuilding (in fact I'm overweight but am looking to get back into it soon), but when I was younger I was experimenting with everything. AAS, GBL, insulin, HGH and even IGF-1. Not only was the GBL/bromocriptine dangerous but I didn't make any gains in lean body mass or loss in fat at all, so I wouldn't recommend it. In my opinion, GBL has no place in bodybuilding full stop. It's a recreational drug, and a poor one at that.

I'd also add that I ended up in hospital quite a few times from GBL overdoses. At the beginning it's easy to avoid but once you get addicted and are constantly dosing 24/7 it's easy to do once you become complacent. I remember one time I ended up spending a week in intensive care and almost died. It really is a miracle I'm still alive really, but that's besides the point.