juninho999
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Firstly here is an outline of my useage
I have been using GBL 24/7 for 1.5 years, I am currently using on average 12ml per day, I know this as I have started to write down every dose I take, my doses are also measured out with a 1ml pipette marked in 0.1ml increments. At night I take 1.8ml for sleep and almost always get 4 hours good sleep before waking, however on several occasions I have managed 5 sometimes 6 hours and on a few rare occasions even 7 hours.
Most times it is 4 hours though. I then re-dose 1.5ml and usually get a further 3 to 4 hours good sleep, which gives me at least 7 or 8 hours which I can function on fine.
I then get up and have 1ml to wake me up, I then dose around 0.7ml say every 1.5 hrs sometimes 2 hours or so, always limiting my overall dose for the day to 12ml as I am conscious of not increasing my intake above this level.
With this amount I can still function during the day, I work from home so dosing and close monitoring of dose is easy.
Of course in the past I have binged and dosed higher than this. but I noticed this started to induce a manic euphoria and I couldn’t get more than a couple of hours of poor quality sleep, for a long time now I really want to quit this evil addiction so basically the 12ml is an amount that enables me to function without getting high all day long.
However reading the internet and the many horror stories regarding withdrawal has scared the shit out of me, to be honest I’m not sure whether reading this info has been beneficial as it’s basically made me scared to try and quit, my wife doesn’t even know about my addiction and I certainly wouldn’t want her to see me suffering some of the horror withdrawals I’ve read about online.
The weird thing is I have quit once before for 24 hours and the last time in July for 72 hours with the aid of benzos and booze and I literally had NONE of the withdrawal symptoms I have read about on here, both times when my stash arrived late, but stupidly I just resumed my habit once my stash arrived, This was a combination of not wanting to quit enough and thinking ‘hey it’s easy to quit whenever I want’. I therefore have no experience of secondary phase WD’s that I have read about.
However I am absolutely now committed to getting this stuff out of my life, I can maintain a 12ml habit, eat, work sleep and no-one is the wiser, but FFS what if I want to go on holiday abroad or if I need to go to hospital, I am literally a slave to this shit, also I rarely get any pleasure from it anymore, the only time I do is when I go out and have a drink with it.
Therefore I ordered some Lyrica and Baclofen online with the view of switching addictions then tapering these meds.
I have tried various combinations of both together and on their own at various doses and they seem to make it worse, like they trigger a worse WD from the g, bearing in mind I have had several times where I have slept 7 hours without a dose and not felt too bad on waking, admittedly the first dose of g after these abstinences has made me feel much better.
The worst is Lyrica, it absolutely knocks me out and even at low doses of 75mg at about an hour after ingestion I feel so out of it I can’t function, it makes me sweat like hell, feel dizzy and disorientated and the only way I can stop it is to take a hit of g where I feel instantly back to normal.
Similarly baclofen seems to heighten g withdrawal however not as bad as Lyrica, the only time I had any success with Baclofen was when I took a very small dose of 10mg which actually just felt like I’d had a hit of g back in the days when I enjoyed it, however after an hour or so I thought hell this seems to be working so I took another 10mg, about half an hour after I felt like my heart was racing and thumping out of my chest and again the only thing that stopped it was a 1ml hit of g which brought me back to normal almost instantly.
The thing I can’t understand is I’ve NEVER had such severe classic g WD’s when simply abstaining for longer periods (see my 7 hour sleep reference above).
What keeps me dosing during a normal day is a nagging anxiety which gets worse until I give in, usually after a couple of hours. I never feel any of the physical symptoms I get when I switch to baclofen and especially lyrica, I also can’t understand why I don’t get the anxiety after/during my sleep doses , maybe it’s more of a conscious thing.
Curiously the baclofen definitely helped with this anxiety feeling, but the racing and pounding heart understandably brought an anxiety all of its own. It’s such a bummer because before I got addicted to this shit I never had any anxiety problems in my whole life.
Maybe I’ve been dosing the baclofem/lyrica to soon after my last g hit.
Is there a set length of time I should be leaving since my last g hit before switching to these meds ?
I suppose there is the chance that these meds aren’t genuine as I bought them over the internet without prescription, but there is definitely some chemical in them, certainly not just chalk or something equally benign.
I’m at my wits end now because after reading such glowing reports about these meds this seemed like my way out, and now I feel like I’m right back to square one.
At the moment my next plan is to convert my gbl to ghb, then taper then make the jump with benzos and booze like I did the last time, however after reading the stories online I’m terrified to make the jump.
Sorry if this message is too long I tried to keep it as short as I could, I hope someone can help me get this evil shit out of my life once and for all.
Firstly here is an outline of my useage
I have been using GBL 24/7 for 1.5 years, I am currently using on average 12ml per day, I know this as I have started to write down every dose I take, my doses are also measured out with a 1ml pipette marked in 0.1ml increments. At night I take 1.8ml for sleep and almost always get 4 hours good sleep before waking, however on several occasions I have managed 5 sometimes 6 hours and on a few rare occasions even 7 hours.
Most times it is 4 hours though. I then re-dose 1.5ml and usually get a further 3 to 4 hours good sleep, which gives me at least 7 or 8 hours which I can function on fine.
I then get up and have 1ml to wake me up, I then dose around 0.7ml say every 1.5 hrs sometimes 2 hours or so, always limiting my overall dose for the day to 12ml as I am conscious of not increasing my intake above this level.
With this amount I can still function during the day, I work from home so dosing and close monitoring of dose is easy.
Of course in the past I have binged and dosed higher than this. but I noticed this started to induce a manic euphoria and I couldn’t get more than a couple of hours of poor quality sleep, for a long time now I really want to quit this evil addiction so basically the 12ml is an amount that enables me to function without getting high all day long.
However reading the internet and the many horror stories regarding withdrawal has scared the shit out of me, to be honest I’m not sure whether reading this info has been beneficial as it’s basically made me scared to try and quit, my wife doesn’t even know about my addiction and I certainly wouldn’t want her to see me suffering some of the horror withdrawals I’ve read about online.
The weird thing is I have quit once before for 24 hours and the last time in July for 72 hours with the aid of benzos and booze and I literally had NONE of the withdrawal symptoms I have read about on here, both times when my stash arrived late, but stupidly I just resumed my habit once my stash arrived, This was a combination of not wanting to quit enough and thinking ‘hey it’s easy to quit whenever I want’. I therefore have no experience of secondary phase WD’s that I have read about.
However I am absolutely now committed to getting this stuff out of my life, I can maintain a 12ml habit, eat, work sleep and no-one is the wiser, but FFS what if I want to go on holiday abroad or if I need to go to hospital, I am literally a slave to this shit, also I rarely get any pleasure from it anymore, the only time I do is when I go out and have a drink with it.
Therefore I ordered some Lyrica and Baclofen online with the view of switching addictions then tapering these meds.
I have tried various combinations of both together and on their own at various doses and they seem to make it worse, like they trigger a worse WD from the g, bearing in mind I have had several times where I have slept 7 hours without a dose and not felt too bad on waking, admittedly the first dose of g after these abstinences has made me feel much better.
The worst is Lyrica, it absolutely knocks me out and even at low doses of 75mg at about an hour after ingestion I feel so out of it I can’t function, it makes me sweat like hell, feel dizzy and disorientated and the only way I can stop it is to take a hit of g where I feel instantly back to normal.
Similarly baclofen seems to heighten g withdrawal however not as bad as Lyrica, the only time I had any success with Baclofen was when I took a very small dose of 10mg which actually just felt like I’d had a hit of g back in the days when I enjoyed it, however after an hour or so I thought hell this seems to be working so I took another 10mg, about half an hour after I felt like my heart was racing and thumping out of my chest and again the only thing that stopped it was a 1ml hit of g which brought me back to normal almost instantly.
The thing I can’t understand is I’ve NEVER had such severe classic g WD’s when simply abstaining for longer periods (see my 7 hour sleep reference above).
What keeps me dosing during a normal day is a nagging anxiety which gets worse until I give in, usually after a couple of hours. I never feel any of the physical symptoms I get when I switch to baclofen and especially lyrica, I also can’t understand why I don’t get the anxiety after/during my sleep doses , maybe it’s more of a conscious thing.
Curiously the baclofen definitely helped with this anxiety feeling, but the racing and pounding heart understandably brought an anxiety all of its own. It’s such a bummer because before I got addicted to this shit I never had any anxiety problems in my whole life.
Maybe I’ve been dosing the baclofem/lyrica to soon after my last g hit.
Is there a set length of time I should be leaving since my last g hit before switching to these meds ?
I suppose there is the chance that these meds aren’t genuine as I bought them over the internet without prescription, but there is definitely some chemical in them, certainly not just chalk or something equally benign.
I’m at my wits end now because after reading such glowing reports about these meds this seemed like my way out, and now I feel like I’m right back to square one.
At the moment my next plan is to convert my gbl to ghb, then taper then make the jump with benzos and booze like I did the last time, however after reading the stories online I’m terrified to make the jump.
Sorry if this message is too long I tried to keep it as short as I could, I hope someone can help me get this evil shit out of my life once and for all.
