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Gabapentin please describe

plonk-ozoid said:
This, and it makes you very clumsy. Not drunk clumsy but your coördination is certainly affected. From the outside one looks a bit slow and dozy.
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Locally we call gabapentin and pregablin the wobblys. Great for skating as your center of gravity is somewhere about an inch below the board but terrible if you need to walk in a straight line
 
You bump into walls, you can't walk straight.
Horrible drug 😫 IME hard to taper off. Supposed to have anxiolytic properties but IME I got none.
 
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I just feel kinda sedated on it - it’s not a huge effect. But I don’t find downers recreational. It’s not too dissimilar from alcohol except that it’s not dehydrating like alcohol and I find my motor control isn’t as affected as on alcohol.
 
flipflopper said:
Prescribed dose, however, feeling like a normal human is considered recreational to me.
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Gabapentin feels like you’re more normal than normal. It makes opioid withdrawal go away. It also makes mental pictures go away completely. You can’t see images in your head so you can’t experience anxiety from them. It somewhat relieves pain. Its effect is ultimately very subtle and almost sublime. It truly is like being more normal than normal.
 
I love gabapentin at prescribed doses. I love it at doses as high as 1800mg for opiate withdrawal. It’s a fucking godsend that it exists. The only downside is the mental pictures go away and words kind of get divorced from their meaning. It is not a good drug for artistic endeavor but it is a phenomenal drug for those who are in pain, anxiety or in withdrawal.
 
helpingout said:
Gabapentin feels like you’re more normal than normal. It makes opioid withdrawal go away. It also makes mental pictures go away completely. You can’t see images in your head so you can’t experience anxiety from them. It somewhat relieves pain. Its effect is ultimately very subtle and almost sublime. It truly is like being more normal than normal.
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So are you saying you like it?

EDIT: oh I see your second response, thanks. I was hoping for some artistic help so good to know.
 
flipflopper said:
So are you saying you like it?

EDIT: oh I see your second response, thanks. I was hoping for some artistic help so good to know.
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I would say I like it. I would say it’s a better medicine than it is a recreational drug tho.

Pleasure wise, I was ecstatic when it suddenly occurred to me that I hadn’t used an opiate in like three days. But is the drug itself pleasurable. I wouldn’t say it is. But is it sublime? I would say it’s sublime. It’s something that I would gladly take again if I needed it.

Feeling normal is a prize in and Of itself. If you sre taking drugs to feel normal then it’d absolutely a pleasure to take gabapentin.
 
helpingout said:
It also makes mental pictures go away completely. You can’t see images in your head so you can’t experience anxiety from them
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i could probably get a prescription cause of back problems, but this makes it sound no good to me... i get that everyone is different, so maybe that wouldn't happen to me... sounds really unappealing though.... thanks for the reply... i kind of hesitant about taking any new meds.... my back kind of flairs up with anxiety. i'll probably take ativan sometimes when i can't smoke weed all the time living in smoke free housing.... ativan actually sets off involuntary breathing for me and i always feel really good even on smaller doses unless i've been using for a while daily.usually i can find some time off where i just smoke weed or take edibles or whatever. so i should be good.

i was thinking about adding some gabapentin to the mix. i don't know if that would help me stay from getting too addicted to the ativan or if they'd both jus tbe downers and kind of doing the same thing making my body want downers more. hmm. probably won't start gabapentin with poster helpingout's description.
 
foodcrisis said:
i could probably get a prescription cause of back problems, but this makes it sound no good to me... i get that everyone is different, so maybe that wouldn't happen to me... sounds really unappealing though.... thanks for the reply... i kind of hesitant about taking any new meds.... my back kind of flairs up with anxiety. i'll probably take ativan sometimes when i can't smoke weed all the time living in smoke free housing.... ativan actually sets off involuntary breathing for me and i always feel really good even on smaller doses unless i've been using for a while daily.usually i can find some time off where i just smoke weed or take edibles or whatever. so i should be good.

i was thinking about adding some gabapentin to the mix. i don't know if that would help me stay from getting too addicted to the ativan or if they'd both jus tbe downers and kind of doing the same thing making my body want downers more. hmm. probably won't start gabapentin with poster helpingout's description.
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I’d say it’s much more likely to help your pain than Ativan. It’s also less addictive although dependence can still form. But it will likely not be as effective for anxiety as Ativan, and I would really not recommend being on both, as it’s generally not good to combine downers. Have you tried baclofen?
 
helpingout said:
Gabapentin feels like you’re more normal than normal. It makes opioid withdrawal go away. It also makes mental pictures go away completely. You can’t see images in your head so you can’t experience anxiety from them. It somewhat relieves pain. Its effect is ultimately very subtle and almost sublime. It truly is like being more normal than normal.
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That's interesting - I've taken gabapentin off and on for many years and do sometimes notice that I have effects similar to what you're describing, especially if I"m taking it more frequently.

Lately, i have been taking it much much less and I've had much more vivid dreams.... I would bet there's a relationship there. I might continue this voyage of just kind of not taking it that often.
 
fairnymph said:
I’d say it’s much more likely to help your pain than Ativan. It’s also less addictive although dependence can still form. But it will likely not be as effective for anxiety as Ativan, and I would really not recommend being on both, as it’s generally not good to combine downers. Have you tried baclofen?
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the ativan just makes me breath really well, which helps with the pain...

i've never tried baclofen but i was on flexeral for years. i don't know how similar they are, but i'm googling baclofen and they are both muscle relaxers.... flexeral hit me pretty hard. i only needed a tiny chunk of the pill they prescribed me and i'd pass out pretty hard and wake up feeling kind of groggy but pleasant.... ddin't really do much for my injury though.. maybe made me so spaced out the pain was easier to deal with. i was smoking a lot of weed at the time too, but i always do that. flexeral is pretty strong for me

i wouldn't take the ativan and gabapentin and the same time if i had scripts for them... i'll probably stay away from that.. i know ativan will work for a while for my sleep disorde and anxiety. that's the biggest deal to me... i'll see when i get older... psychedelic mushrooms kind of make my nerve damage feel better for a few days after using. i might start using those again if my back gets worse.
 
foodcrisis said:
the ativan just makes me breath really well, which helps with the pain...

i've never tried baclofen but i was on flexeral for years. i don't know how similar they are, but i'm googling baclofen and they are both muscle relaxers.... flexeral hit me pretty hard. i only needed a tiny chunk of the pill they prescribed me and i'd pass out pretty hard and wake up feeling kind of groggy but pleasant.... ddin't really do much for my injury though.. maybe made me so spaced out the pain was easier to deal with. i was smoking a lot of weed at the time too, but i always do that. flexeral is pretty strong for me

i wouldn't take the ativan and gabapentin and the same time if i had scripts for them... i'll probably stay away from that.. i know ativan will work for a while for my sleep disorde and anxiety. that's the biggest deal to me... i'll see when i get older... psychedelic mushrooms kind of make my nerve damage feel better for a few days after using. i might start using those again if my back gets worse.
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Baclofen is not like Flexeril at all. I despise Flexeril and I find it totally useless. It just knocks me out for like 16 hours, leaving me groggy for even longer, and has no pleasant effects or muscle relaxation. Baclofen is very weak - but then my muscle tension and spasticity is extremely severe - but it does have some effect unlike Flexeril, and no sedation. Even more effective is carisoprodol, but nothing I’ve tried - and I have tried everything that might possibly help - compares to diazepam for muscle tension.

Gabapentin does help for sleep by the way. Ativan is not sedating for me at all.

The only things that actually helped to relieve the cause of my back pain:
1. diazepam
2. carisoprodol
3. baclofen & clonazepam
4. gabapentin

But everything below one and two has such a minor effect it’s barely worth taking - only if I can’t get one or two. And as I said, diazepam is by far the most effective. But everyone is different so you may need to try many things to find what works best for you. I have never found weed remotely therapeutic and I don’t enjoy it recreationally either.
 
fairnymph said:
Baclofen is not like Flexeril at all. I despise Flexeril and I find it totally useless. It just knocks me out for like 16 hours, leaving me groggy for even longer, and has no pleasant effects or muscle relaxation. Baclofen is very weak - but then my muscle tension and spasticity is extremely severe - but it does have some effect unlike Flexeril, and no sedation. Even more effective is carisoprodol, but nothing I’ve tried - and I have tried everything that might possibly help - compares to diazepam for muscle tension.

Gabapentin does help for sleep by the way. Ativan is not sedating for me at all.

The only things that actually helped to relieve the cause of my back pain:
1. diazepam
2. carisoprodol
3. baclofen & clonazepam
4. gabapentin

But everything below one and two has such a minor effect it’s barely worth taking - only if I can’t get one or two. And as I said, diazepam is by far the most effective. But everyone is different so you may need to try many things to find what works best for you. I have never found weed remotely therapeutic and I don’t enjoy it recreationally either.
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i'm gonna put this in my saved note pad incase my back starts to get worse and i have to look for other stuff... thanks.. i haven't really heard too much about the list of drugs you mentioned.
 
For me there are 3 plateaus to gabapentinoids. Level 1 is what you get when prescribed and slowly titrated upwards to the target dosage: Nothing recreational, maybe slight sedation. Level 2 is a moderately high dosage without tolerance and feels like being drunk. Level 3 is the full experience and - as far as I remember from 10+ years ago - feels like a stimulating dissociative, maybe a bit GHB-ish.

I never took gabapentin though, only pregabalin, but they are supposed to be fairly similar. Tolerance is an absolute bitch, if you take the same dosage like yesterday you'll experience diminished returns already. Might be just me though, for some the therapeutic effects seem to/must last.
 
dopamimetic said:
For me there are 3 plateaus to gabapentinoids. Level 1 is what you get when prescribed and slowly titrated upwards to the target dosage: Nothing recreational, maybe slight sedation. Level 2 is a moderately high dosage without tolerance and feels like being drunk. Level 3 is the full experience and - as far as I remember from 10+ years ago - feels like a stimulating dissociative, maybe a bit GHB-ish.

I never took gabapentin though, only pregabalin, but they are supposed to be fairly similar. Tolerance is an absolute bitch, if you take the same dosage like yesterday you'll experience diminished returns already. Might be just me though, for some the therapeutic effects seem to/must last.
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Pregabalin is waaay stronger than gabapentin - but not in a good way, imo. I don’t understand the appeal at all. Only useful for knocking myself out during withdrawal.
 
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