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Tryptamines Future Tryptamines ?

MedicinalUser247

MedicinalUser247

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Well I don't know about you, but I'm looking forward to the future of Tryptamines. Aren't you ? In another post I mentioned that I wondered what a drug such as 4,5-Dimethoxy-N,N-Dimethyltryptamine would be like. Which brings me to the question. What do you think about future Tryptamines ?
 
Haven't they made all the basic ones? Are Pipt and EPT duds? I heard good things about MPT.
 
Well I'm a Pharmacology enthusiast you would need an actual chemist to make the stuff. As for PiPT, EPT and MPT I consider all three of them duds. Structures such as 5-MeO-DMT, 5-MeO-DiPT and 5-MeO-MiPT I find much more interesting.
 
Did you vape/smoke the nnMPT? I heard oral was good but at 80+ mg. - edit- oral was the 4ho version
 
While not promising, I don't think there's been lot of push into things like N,N-NPT and its substitutions, right? N,N-NET and N,N-NMT are debatably inactive.
Dougie Doozer said:
Haven't they made all the basic ones? Are Pipt and EPT duds? I heard good things about MPT.
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N,N-PiPT was well-regarded by a couple people that reported on it over a decade ago. When I tried it once, I didn't care for it. Weird and boring. I love N,N-EPT but it's so light it's barely psychedelic. Xorkoth liked N,N-MPT. I never seem to get around to it.

5-MeO-PiPT was fine. I probably underdosed on my trial and just never revisited it.
 
Damn I wish I grabbed that while it was on clearnet. Dude named Joey Oleus on facebook mentioned it. Dude's definitely on bl somewhere. Kept switching his name like me lol
 
MedicinalUser247 said:
What do you think about NDTDI ?
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What about it? I don't think many people have ever tried it. I did read somewhere that it was pretty bunk though.

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Nothing ndtdi from what i have heard from the dude who runs the legal lsyergamine operation that ndtdi is a complete fail. Or not remotely worth the money it costs. I have heard from them that it does look very similar to ndtdi. But it coukd literally be anything. I suspect its ndtdi but one...
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Just came across some N,N-sBT today. I can't imagine it's interesting--definitely not on my 2024 bingo card--but there it was.
 
Pfafffed said:
Just came across some N,N-sBT today. I can't imagine it's interesting--definitely not on my 2024 bingo card--but there it was.
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How do you expect it to be? Have you tried any of the N-secbutyl tryptamines that people often refer to as being moreso a relaxing drug than a psychedelic?

Shulgin seemingly bumped upon two unexplored classes of sedatives between the N-secbutyl/N-tertbutyl tryptamines and also 3,5-dimethoxy-4-bromophenethylamine, it seems.
 
Kaleida mentioned the other day that the secbuts were 5-HT2a agonists, but beyond that I'd just be speculating with nothing to go on.

In other news, I've since come across vendors purportung to sell 5-MeO-subbed amyl-tryptamines, which seems even weirder.
 
Dougie Doozer said:
5-MeO's give me panic attacks but DMT, DPT, and DiPT were nice. Wish I had the balls to try 4-HO-DiPT but I hate overstimmy feelings. Hopefully 2C-E is manageable.
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Seems so, 5-meo-DIPT the only one I have experience with correlated a bit to the storys about 5-meo-DMT an 5-meo- AMT.

It was psychedelically quite good, akin to sped up acid. But the side effects like vasoconstriction and anxiety very annoying.
So if DIPT is quite well appreciated and tolerated, even unique some say.
I wonder bout 4-ho-DIPT, if it behaves like 5-meo-MIPT vs 4-ho-MIPT. As the latter was more eassier on the body. Would this also occur with DIPT subtituting a 4-ho instead of a 5-meo?

Not actually a novelty. But if you get rid the mentioned side effects, could be a very nice tryptamine.

2c-E, which was a gift 20 mg + 100 mg 4-fma in a little bottle. Well besides 2-cT-2 the phenethylamines are not my thing, neither are tryptamines. Maybe Mescaline is a exception but threw my kilos of San Pedro's without thinking away (kids).
So the 2c-E in that mix, a half dose/ 10 mg 2c-E and 50 mg 4-FMA was to my surprise pretty good (hate premixes by default). Maybe the synergy between the two? never took 2c-E as stand alone But 2c-C, 2c-D and 2c-B were less enjoyable, then that combo, though the B is nice.
 
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Esperighanto said:
How do you expect it to be? Have you tried any of the N-secbutyl tryptamines that people often refer to as being moreso a relaxing drug than a psychedelic?

Shulgin seemingly bumped upon two unexplored classes of sedatives between the N-secbutyl/N-tertbutyl tryptamines and also 3,5-dimethoxy-4-bromophenethylamine, it seems.
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5-MeO-NsBT and 5-MeO-MsBT are reported to be active as psychedelics.

I've personally tried NsBT and it was inactive for me at the dose (would have to check notes and it was not analytically confirmed, but looked fine on TLC except for a little tryptamine contamination). I know reputable people for which it was active in a manner as described by Shulgin, i.e. calm and meditative but not necessarily psychedelic. Hamilton Morris mentioned in a podcast it may be one of those placebo compounds, but maybe there are non-responders?
 
emkee_reinvented said:
4-ho-DIPT, if it behaves like 5-meo-MIPT vs 4-ho-MIPT. As the latter was more eassier on the body. Would this also occur with DIPT subtituting a 4-ho instead of a 5-meo?
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Yes, trip reports of 4-HO-DiPT do not mention significant physical side effects with the same frequency as 5-MeO-DiPT. It seems better tolerated. It's also a different subjective experience.
 
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