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friends and heroin

unearthlyn

unearthlyn

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I've got a friend whose always been interested in RCs and the more abstract drugs, just a infatuation with drugs to the point of wanting to do them. He knows I'm a heroin addict, and he's very supportive of me but he's starting to become more interested in opiates. He says it's not my fault that he wants to try them, but i can't help but feel guilty for it. He sees all the stress it puts me through, and I think it attracts him more. He asked me last night if I would help him make sure he does H right the first time, and i want to help him so he knows what to do safely, but i dont want to be the reason if he gets addicted. I know he's going to do it no matter what I say, I wouldve done the same thing, but if anything happens to him its gonna hurt. I care about him a lot. But then again there is a side of me that wants to get him involved, I sort of want him to get addicted because of selfish reasons. I want him to be able to relate to me. but only for my sake. I want to tell myself it's okay if he does heroin with me, but i know it's not. My mind isn't clear about it completely and I was wondering if anyone had a similar situation/ advice to give me.
 
I was in a similar position a few years ago. I knew him long enough to know that he would get addicted if he started messing around with them so I wouldn't pick up for him and wouldn't do them around him or anything. Then a mutual friend of ours started picking up with him and he's now also a heroin addict.

I wish I had some advice to offer, but people are going to do what they want. Like your situation, my friend had seen me in bad WDs at one point, and he heard me complain about the WDs and the difficulty in staying away, the misery, the stress, and how it effected the quality of my life. None of this seemed to deter him though. I think it might have actually made him want to try it more. I think he had the attitude that if it was making me so miserable, but I was still getting it, then it must be really good, right?


(That's the other problem, it IS really good! Until it isn't.)
 
But Is he going to do it anyway? H is not really always that easy to come by but then again I dont know your situation. I would definitely do everything to turn him away even if you need to lie. Exaggerate the negatives as much as possible and downplay the positive to the min., to nothing if possible. Portray your situation as that youre trying to get clean, youre sick of it, make him afraid, tell him youre afraid you have permanent brain chemistry changes etc... Tell him youre not buying it anymore for the time being and youre on a maintainance dose of suboxone (which you tell him you find is useless for getting high so he doesnt get any ideas). Just keep telling him the neg. sides of it and how it doesnt even get you high anymore. Dont help him glamorize it, dont tell him how nice the high is, tell him after the first its just down hill (whether its true or not) . If hes a friend youre going to do anything to prevent him to go on this path.

If you have to rationalize anything, do it for the goal of discouraging him. Not why you should "help him do it right the first time" cause hes going to do it anyway. If he does at least try to keep him off the needle.
 
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If he's really going to do it anyway than you helping him is just keeping him safe. You retain some control over the situation--you can recommend he only snorts it rather than using a needle for instance.

You should make him score by himself though, don't give him access to your connects. If he's willing to go through the trouble of scoring I don't think it's unreasonable for you to be there to make sure he doesn't OD.

Insisiting on having Narcan on hand isn't unreasonable either. Make him totally aware of the danger and risk.
 
I'm of two minds of it, because on the one hand I feel that introducing people to dangerous and addictive drugs is somewhat immoral, but on the other hand I tend to believe in the "do unto others" principle, and under that principle I would probably feel obliged to help someone score because I'd put myself in their position and think, hmm, if I really wanted to do some drugs and this individual had access, I'd sure want them to help me out...
 
I think it all boils down to whether or not he can get it himself. Don't get it for him, but if he comes to you and has some, insisting that he's going to try it no matter what, at that point you can make sure he uses in the safest manner. But if he can't get it himself, no worries, keep him away from it.
 
Where I am from, and where I live now, Heroin is extremely prevalent. If he is pretty much anywhere on the east coast or west coast, well anywhere than chances are if he looked hard enough he can find it. I feel that as the more experienced user, you have a duty to your friend. You know his intent as you more than likely once had it yourself. Just keep him safe, and for the love of god, be there when he takes it for the first time.
 
I've been through similar, even exact situations before multiple times. First time was with my best friend back in the theen days, when I was 16 and already hooked as hell. My best friend envied me while seeing me nodding off amidt the movie we watched, or scratching or puking and saying how I don't feel bad while doing it. Pretty soon, he started being more and more persistent, while at the same time, I was getting more and more addicted, so my personal integrity character strength suffered in the process, to the point I felt so lonely and isolated in my addiction that I needed a friend, a partner in crime. I gave him the dope, just a small line, and after few minutes I saw him nodding, burning his t-shirt with his cigarette, and saying he literally feels blessed! He was my best friend so I had this huge amount of responsivility not to get him to te place where I was, and I was in a postion to control his drug use, to limit it (the rule was never to give him more than two days in a row), to explain and to educate him abot all the important aspects to be aware of. As a result , he never got hooked to it, after I went to rehab, he quit definitely, and never came back to it. We are still great friends, he's now drug free, while I still sruggle with it, now I'm on/off of smack for 3 years.
 
Unless I though they'd kill themselves without it, I wouldn't be willing to supply someone with heroin for their first time. And id strongly recommend against them starting for all the reasons heroin has been a destructive force in my life. Except for some very unusual circumstances.

Now if they managed to find and buy it on their own and fully intent is to use it, of course id give them to every assistance and help to do it safely. But I dont want to help someone I call a friend get addicted. Until he or she actually has it and intends to use it I might still be able to change their minds.

Pibolar said:
I think it all boils down to whether or not he can get it himself. Don't get it for him, but if he comes to you and has some, insisting that he's going to try it no matter what, at that point you can make sure he uses in the safest manner. But if he can't get it himself, no worries, keep him away from it.
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That's my philosophy perfectly described
 
I have been in a similar situation twice and neither one ended well. You pretty much already know this guy is going to end up with a heroin addiction just from the way you describe him. If he can get the drug without your help then you should be there for his first time and show him how to use safely but I wouldn't shoot him up if he cant do it himself. Try to make him smoke it or snort it so maybe it wont be as good as his expectations and he will not pursue it further. Bad situation all the way around though. The two people who I knew both ended up getting addicted.
 
Update on this: I never helped him get heroin, he didn't know where to get it himself either. Ended up getting some sort of RC shipped to his house.. didn't wait for me to get there and let him know if he was even doing it right. OD'd and died first use.. R.I.P. 03/2/16
 
U47700 it's like a synthetic opiate, 7x more potent than morphine, only like 8 people have died from it because it's not well known- from China
 
Yeah rc opiates can be sketchy and if you gonna do it you should proceed with so much caution it won't even be that fun. I personally don't want to discuss rc opiates.

I never help someone shoot up until they are already sticking a needle in there arms and I say " I will show you how to do it once, I want you to do a low dose or leave but I will show you how to do it without hurting yourself just once and you shouldn't be doing this to yourself."

I have had gfs ask me to hit them and they are like "my ex always did it for me" and I tell them I ain't there ex and once again show them once.

I won't help someone shoot up the first time. No fucking way. I felt pretty uncomfortable when this girl I ended up dating later shot up at my house. My ex shot her up and she did a bit much and I knew she was gonna fall down so I ended uo catching her when she fell. I was like "bitch stay the fuck awake" and she was cool about it and she ended up slipping her number in my pocket.

I kept trying to discourage her but she was smoking oxy and she sure went through alot. She already knew how to shoot up but not well so seeing how I couldn't stop her and cared about her I kinda had to show her how to shoot up until she did it right and it took her forever to have good hygiene and technique.

Now that I stopped I can tell people to fuck right off with it but damn I hate to see someone missing just knowing it's only a matter of time before they end up hurting themselves. I have seen someone hit an artery and the plunger fly out and this girl says "this vein so good it pushed the plunger out" and it took about half an hour for her to understand she should bot stick a needle there let alone inject there. She kept asking what difference did it matter which way the blood was going.
 
Damn, poor guy. Really sorry to hear that dude. Man, the pursuit of drugs is such a powerful force, huh? Despite all the horror stories you hear, and all the cold, hard facts accumulated, and it STILL doesn't deter a lot of people...crazy...
 
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