Opioids Freezing poppy pod tea?

[Bleaney]

Does anyone know if it's possible to freeze PPT (made with hot water, lemon juice, and ground pods) without damaging the alkaloids?

My method of preparation and consumption has been to make one large batch of a consistent amount and strength which I wish to stick to.

I am tapering down and off and have reached the stage where one batch is lasting a long time, as I'm near the end of the taper.

I have tried making smaller batches, by halving the quantities of Pod grounds and water, but this definitely affects the strength of the PPT, for reasons too long winded to explain. Doing this means that the batches are not the same strength and so it messes up the taper.

So I'm considering freezing half or more of the next batch, due to concerns of bacterial or mould growth if I keep the tea in the fridge for several weeks.

But if freezing could potentially destroy or damage the alkaloids then obviously that's not going to be any good.

 

[lolis my thesis]

im doing that now.
I use boiling water, blenderful of pods, one blenderful hot water, blend then strain.
Pour tea into ice cube trays; it works out that one cube equals about 5mgs methadone.
Trying to work it out as my methadone doc is retiring and I am down to 15mgs so its off or bupe for my future.
Hoping to pod taper as well; when the legs start to ache, pop an ice cube sized dose.
So far I have been experimenting and the poppy pod stuff sure gets me high
But itchy, queasy, also high. I prefer the methadone high but not usually inclined to take more as I tapering
TL;freezer outta work

 

[Bleaney]

im doing that now.
I use boiling water, blenderful of pods, one blenderful hot water, blend then strain.

I'm using a similar method, but with some differences.

I use a coffee bean grinder full of hand broken pod pieces, I push them down so that it's full to the brim, and then empty half or more out, as I have to grind each batch using 2 or 3 top ups, as the grinders cant cope and burn out quickly if you over load them.

I use a full kettle of just off the boil water with this. So it sounds like my method is a lot more dilute than your super concentrated version.

A kettle full is 1.7 litres and my dose is now down to about 75ml from 350ml. (I'd previously found that taking any more than 350 ml of pods from this particular supplier didnt do any more, so I stayed at 350ml for some time - a few years) So considering my dose and the amount, my next batch is probably going to last a month or more, which I don't think will be a good idea to store in the fridge for that long.

They defintately arent full spectrum or full stregth pods which is good news at this stage. But they definitalely do something for mood, anxiety, energy, and GI soothing and appetite stimulation. My dose is already so low that it's probably not doing much of anything, and it's probably mainly psycholgical now.

I expect to complete my taper with my next batch.

One thing is that the taper is making me crave kratom more strongly as the day goes on, I guess to try and compensate. So I'm also reducing that at the same time.

I know freezing reduces some vitmin content of vedges etc, so just on that basis I'm suspecting that freezing may also reduce alkaloid content in other plant materials. No idea for sure though.

I've heard that these alkaloids can be reduced by boiling etc, so they do seem to be 'sensitive' (for want of a better word) to extreme temperatures.

 

[Halif2]

I've heard that these alkaloids can be reduced by boiling etc, so they do seem to be 'sensitive' (for want of a better word) to extreme temperatures.

I've never had an issue with freezing tea. You should be just fine.

Good luck with the tapering.

 

[Delam]

Yeah man, I got nothing really to add to this other than good on ya. Sounds like you are in a positive place and making some great progress with your taper. Can I ask, what dose of Kratom are you on daily? Is you plan to be off everything eventually?

 

[Bleaney]

Can I ask, what dose of Kratom are you on daily? Is you plan to be off everything eventually?

I'm down to one dose of around 3.5 - 3.6g per evening, along with the reducing PPT in the mornings. So it's nothing too heavy at all. I'm just taking it easy on myself tbh rather than maing things any harder than they need to be.

My current plan regarding kratom is mainly to reduce my tolerance, ideally have a break from it for some time. I have no current plans to be off everything.

But as I'm having some difficulty making my ADHD meds prescription last, I'm needing to take days off those too, so it's really hard to not use kratom or modafinil on the days off to try and stretch out my ADHD meds.

I seem to be making things complicated for myself one again. These things seem to go in constant cycles of reaping the rewards and then paying the penalties....Most here are probably very familiar with these sort of cycles.

 

[Just a little pinprick]

I have a quart and a half in the freezer now and I’ve been doing that the past couple of years since discovering pod tea,,I found that if I tried storing it long term in the fridge in a pitcher mold would form on it after a couple weeks so I just froze it in serving size containers and take it out the day before I wanted to use it,,I didn’t notice any difference in strength ….

 

[Keif' Richards]

Wow, this is all really interesting. I love the idea of using the ice cube tray to make dosing units. I'm intrigued. I never got around to making Poppy Tea in any form. I always assumed it would be too weak to work for me. Nice work on the tapering. I hope you're enjoying life. I know I really enjoyed listening to music again when I stopped using heavy Opioids. There were a lot of things like that I was missing without really knowing it. Good work and neat thread.

 

[lolis my thesis]

Its actually heavy like asiatic poppy as strong as oxycodone; but with all the various alkaloids its got a more robust side effect profile itchy like codeine(some add some benedryl to the tea; also queasy like. supposedly a uniquely horrible withdrawal thanks to the full spectrum alkaloid profile.
Myself I have been tapering methadone for years and down to 15mgs/day. not taking any as the poppy tea has me covered and dare i say quite high! I can feel my face flush and got that travelling itch.

1 pound of tiny stemmy pods I processed all of it, and used muffin tins to freeze doses.
Ended up with 65 hockey puck doses.

However, as an addict I am not taking any methadone at all hopefully for 20 days as I dose poppy pod tea 3xday.
But it gets me so high that I probably will raise my tolerance lol.
but at least I will be saving methadone for the next few weeks so I can taper with that;
Its gross as kratom but fuck me I am such a dope fiend and spent so long ditching to oxy and vicodin
dont want to undo the work of Contolling the methadone and reducing it to switch to bupe.

Tl; dr. Its strong, like full agonist, long half life, real deal dope.
Just need to overpay at least I only know of only one clear net vendors