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for those that claim marijuana isn't physically addictive...

Try to work out a bit - this usually helps me when I'm having problem sleeping and eating regularily. Because the weed makes you more hungry and sleepier than you really are, and so you will need to substitute some physical activities with your weed to get the same effect.

It's just your body turning back to normal, and you aren't ready for such a radical change ;)
 
You call that withdrawl? Pfft.. Shoot heroin for 14 years and stop...then get back with me.8)
 
in my opinion the by far most obvius and annoying one is insomnia... i got so used to weed regulating my sleep patterns.
 
Isn't it great that us potheads can get together and honestly discuss the negative effects of the weed?

Honestly, Bluelight has its share of dogmatic bickering, but for the most part I find these discussions decidedly sane. If you've frequented other drug forums like a.d.p, yahoo groups, and the like, it really gives you an appreciation for what we've got going here. That being said, I would like to add my two cents on the mj addiction issue.

Over many years of observing my many pot smoking friends, acquaintances, and family members, I have noticed a trend in opinions about addiction. Among those who smoke pot occasionally (once a day or less, on average), it seems to be "common knowledge" that marijuana is not addictive in any way, physically or mentally. They percieve extremely heavy use as more of a bad habit, like biting your nails. Those, like myself, who smoke pretty much whatever they can get their hands on, will readily admit that pot is addictive for some(though we don't seem to care all that much.) So what do we conclude from this? I would say that both views are equally correct, in fact, semantics aside, both are saying the same thing.

When, years ago, I quit a lifelong nail-biting habit, I got some extremely unpleasant physical symptoms. The tips of my fingers went numb, as the skin grew thicker over my deadened (read downgraded) nerve endings. My wrists ached from drumming my fingers incessantly. I couldn't stop grinding my teeth, playing with my tongue, and so forth, so I had a headache and my mouth was sore. This was all annoying as hell, to say the least. It was somewhat worse for me than withdrawing off pot, though not nearly as bad as cigarettes. Now, if biting my nails had been getting me all fucked up, I wouldn't have been able to quit, thank god this was not the case.

My point, which has already been made in this thread, I think, is that emphasizing physical withdrawal over mental or vise versa, or saying it's just a habit, is sidestepping the issue. Many habits are hard to break (not flossing, biting nails, not stopping completely for stop signs), some are impossible (the habits we can't even see, our cherished methods of thinking and justifications for these) Likewise, many addictions are hard to break (for me this is pot and oxymetazoline), some are impossible (coffee and cigarettes), some are easy (adderall, for me.)

If you're still saying, "That's all well and good, but you'll never convince me that pot and heroin addictions are somehow alike.", consider the following: There are canniboid receptors all over your body, in greater and lesser concentrations. In your body they are concentrated in the reproductive organs and immune system. These receptors are not just doing nothing, and when you stimulate them constantly, your body's gonna compensate. Thus, canniboid withdrawal could potentially cause direct physical symptoms. So don't be too quick to tell an ailing reefer-junky that his/her addiction is all in the head.

If you're still reading, I'll end by telling you my personal pot withdrawal symptoms. I've been smoking pot for 4 years. Most of that time is 3-4 month intervals where I smoke all day long nonstop (3-10 grams.)Occasionally this is punctuated by periods of no or little smoking for a few days. The number of week long breaks could be counted on one hand. You could say that I'm quite addicted. In fact, my friends and I are fond of calling good chronic "green crack." Depite this, my withdrawal symptoms are easily manageable:

1. Wanting to not be sober. I can't emphasize this enough. I just love to be high.

2. Wanting to smoke something. I compensate this with cigarettes.

3. Irritability, insomnia, loss of appetite, retention of stress, minor.

4. Heart burn, perhaps brought on by stress, rare.

5. Since early childhood, I have never been able to recall my dreams as anything more than an abstract felling when I awake. The only time I remember them is the couple of days after I've stopped smoking.

That's about it. Peace.
 
Pot is a very magical substance. It's a plant, so with just a few seeds and some dirt you can obtain decent ammounts of it. It's very easy to find all over the world, and it's becoming more and more accepted everyday.

I feel that if I did anything as much as I smoked bud, and I enjoyed it as much as I enjoy bud, I would have the same effects qutting that then I would qutting bud.
 
lol whenever i feel like i smoke too much weed i turn to you guys and im never disapointed ;) btw would you consider 1 bong hit = 1 time if you are saying i smoke 3-5 times a day, or what here? 1 joint or bong session?
 
Physically addicting refers to when your body developes a need for the chemical you were taking. Many of the symptoms can be psychosomatic however not chemical imbalances. Just because your body is sore after doesn't mean you are 'physically addicted.'
 
Aros2k said:
The symptoms described are very real.

Pot is extremely physically addictive, and should stay illegal. Anyone who says otherwise is smacked out on the effects of pot and needs to open their eyes.

Because alcohol, tabacco, and caffiene don't have miserable withdrawal symptoms. All I know is when I stopped taking caffiene pills, I was all out incapacitated for two days. Shakes, sweats, couldn't stand, could barely formulate sentences. And nicotine craving, for me, were worse than my old hydrocodone ones.

Get you head out of your ass, you fucktard.
 
Aros2k said:
The symptoms described are very real.

Pot is extremely physically addictive, and should stay illegal. Anyone who says otherwise is smacked out on the effects of pot and needs to open their eyes.


well, overall, that's a pretty stupid fucking statement if you ask me.

i know NON-pot smokers who believe that pot should be legalized.

and i, myself, though never using opiates or cocaine or anything else, believe that they should be legalized and that it is up to the individual to make the choice as to whether or not they will indulge.

it being illegal has NOTHING to do with how addictive it is.
caffeine, alcohol and tobacco are all extremely physically addictive, are abused every day by millions of people, and yet remain legal.

AND, pot is not physically addictive. your body never becomes dependant on it for homeostasis. it is, however, very psychologically addictive. it becomes a lifestyle, and being stoned is your new baseline. i am very addicted to weed right now, but most of my withdrawal symptoms come in the form of anxiety and intense loss of appetite.

and i echo the fucktard sentiments of hashish2020.

peace
 
A few people mentioned this already, but I thought I'd still put in my two cents worth.

Marijuana is not physically addictive because it doesn;t supply us with a chemical our body produces naturally, as cocaine and heroin do. Your body produces a certain amount of x chemical, you start putting larger amounts into your system to get 'high', your body then produces less of the chemical to compensate for what you put in. Thusly, you have to keep upping your dosage to get high, or even maintain normal levels of that chemical, or you stop using and go through withdrawl while your body get's used to producing lots of the chemical on it's own again.

Pot doesn't do that. It gives you something that wasn't there before, and makes you feel good. Like Alcohol, if you use it to excess, it starts hurting you, but used in moderation, it's almost symptom free and a damn good way to relax.
 
sounds like you're the type of person who should'nt reek the benifits of marijuana, i've never had withdraw symptoms. You're not supposed to have pyhsical withdraws anyways since the chemical stays in your body in your fat cells. Maybe you should just stop smoking...
 
maybe u shouldnt have smoked pot for like 5 years straight. so stop bitching about it. Its not addictive at all
 
Aros2k said:
The symptoms described are very real.

Pot is extremely physically addictive, and should stay illegal. Anyone who says otherwise is smacked out on the effects of pot and needs to open their eyes.

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Penis McCockitycock said:
Marijuana is not physically addictive because it doesn;t supply us with a chemical our body produces naturally

what about anandamide retard, the natural cannabinoid found in the human brain...

the fact is that there are receptors in the brain that are there specifically for cannabinoids to bind to.

as for your stupidity, see above post
 
hi i just have to say, i had all those symptoms mentioned up top BEFORE i started smoking weed. smoking weed daily for about 6 months made me feel happy and removed these effects. then I stopped and it all came back just as described. in retrospect the withdrawl, while real, was also partly just contrast between normal and continously stoned day in and day out.
all those withdrawl effects i can have frequently. loss of apeitite, salivation, dehydration, depression and insomnia... i had that all the time as a teenager, and even a long time after after my 6 month marijuana 'addiction'. however i know now it was merely poor health. i eat and sleep better and work out i'm fine now. i'm also past some troubling times of life.

i used to think it was weed withdrawl, but now i'm so much better i realise it was absolutly not. i can understand how beneficial cannabis would be to chemotherapy patients etc!

note i've hardly used any drugs in the last 1 1/2 years except for a handfull of phens and tryptamines, smoked just a few times.
 
Just because some people simply cannot handle their dope, the stuff isn't necessarily evil.

Though I myself have been there... especially the extreme irritability and a general physical un-wellness.

Some people can't stop eating cream cakes... or chocolate... and still governments don't go out and ban it.

Seriously, people, those who blame the weed need to have a good look at themselves. Blame yourselves and not the weed.

I'm not saying it can't be addictive, but look at how much you've bene using, and for how long.

Get an equivalent amount and grade of alcohol into your system for as long, and see where you end up.

(This equivalent would probably be sth like whisky or stronger, at a bottle a day or more, I suppose).

And don't give pot a bad name. You'll ruin it for all those who CAN handle it.

Thank you.
 
I smoked everyday for 3 years straight and when I quit, the only thing I felt was a need to play video games. I play them all the time anyway though, so I guess that doesnt even matter.
 
I have smoked fairly large amounts of cannabis for the last year now (2-3 joints a day). This year has been punctuated with occasional periods without weed, usually for a couple of weeks.

I have noticed some of the withdrawl symptoms described, including

insomnia (by far the worst side effect for me)
irritability
lack of hunger

These usually last for 3 or 4 days, or untill i get more weed. Whichever happens sooner.

It would be hard for me to say whever or not these side effects are physical or psychological. I've been through nicotine withdrawl (successfully i might add) and i can say that the pot related withdrawl is about 10x less bad (for me) than nicotine.

It seems to take fairly heavy and extended use to obtain these withdrawl symptoms. Back when i was smoking 1 joint a day i could stop without noticing any of these problems.
 
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