Flunitrazepam (Rohypnol) vs Loprazolam vs Temazepam vs Nimetazepam vs Nitrazepam

[kokaino]

Thank you, I'll stay away from lorazepam. I'm in the process of quitting smoking, so I'll definitely have to leave that out as well :]



I did a little further research on temazepam, and it seems that it may indeed be available where I live. I'll probably have to ask my psychiatrist about it using its commercial name, then he might recognize it.

I have a few more questions to ask, if you don't mind.

From what I understand, benzos with short half-lives are less prone to creating tolerance, especially when you don't make daily use of them. Is this correct? Let's say I take Halcion to sleep 3 times a week (Sundays, Wednesdays, Fridays). Since its half-life is very short, would it be fair to say that I will not create tolerance to it, since I am giving it plenty of time to exit my metabolism before taking it again?

I have a very fast metabolism, and I believe the half-life of benzos on me are usually on the low side. For example:

• Flunitrazepam has a half-life of 18–26 hours. For me, that would be closer to 18 than 26, which is ideal. (There's more to this, see below please)
  
• Temazepam has a half-life of only 8–20 hours, so I'm afraid its anti-anxiety properties (does it have any?) may be gone by the time I wake up.
  
• Loprazolam has an even shorter half-life of 6-12 hours, so I think that may not be the best option in terms of anxiety relief the next day either.

One of my main concerns is avoiding tolerance as much as possible, as I don't want to create physical dependence to them, so I am considering the idea of sticking with a low dosage (2mg) of Flunitrazepam in the mornings for anti-anxiety relief during the day, while taking a stronger sedative with a very short half-life at night, to put me to sleep. I am reluctant to try this, as it all depends on whether I am correct in assuming that benzos with lower half-lives are less prone to creating tolerance, as I mentioned above.

Given these assumptions are right, do you have any recommendations or suggestions as to which drugs may be best-suited to put me to sleep without creating tolerance quickly?

A few other things I'd like to point out:

My tolerance to Flunitrazepam has gone up only in the sense that it does not put me to sleep with the usual 4mg anymore. I may not sleep at all on 4mg, but the anti-anxiety/sociability goodness of it is still present during the whole next day, at that same 4mg dosage. I find this quite peculiar.

Again, thanks a lot for your help. Much appreciated.

Yes, temazepam has strong anti-anxiety properties, but yes you are right in that by the morning it's effects will probably be all gone since it is a more short to intermediate acting benzo. Temazepam's half life is similar to flunitrazepam's, but flunitrazepam has active metabolites that last a long time.

 

[Raymonde]

Can I use this thread to ask a similar question? It's basically true to say that all benzos have sedative effects, and all benzos have anti-anxiety effects. I know for instance that alprazolam scores high on anti-anxiety but is relatively low on the sedation side, temazepam is one of the stronger sedative benzos, and diazepam seems roughly in the middle for both anti-anxiety and sleep-inducement.

Is there any accurate information about relative effectiveness of the two main properties I mentioned? Ideal answer would be a graph or similar plotting the two with any novel effects mentioned, but that's probably asking a bit much so if anyone can give any sort of "league table" with relative strengths of effect that would be awesome and much appreciated.

 

[kokaino]

Can I use this thread to ask a similar question? It's basically true to say that all benzos have sedative effects, and all benzos have anti-anxiety effects. I know for instance that alprazolam scores high on anti-anxiety but is relatively low on the sedation side, temazepam is one of the stronger sedative benzos, and diazepam seems roughly in the middle for both anti-anxiety and sleep-inducement.

Is there any accurate information about relative effectiveness of the two main properties I mentioned? Ideal answer would be a graph or similar plotting the two with any novel effects mentioned, but that's probably asking a bit much so if anyone can give any sort of "league table" with relative strengths of effect that would be awesome and much appreciated.

Refer to this thread, it has exactly the info you are looking for.

 

[bloodshed344]

I have always disagreed with Capt. Heroin on this subject. He praises Temazepam like its the best benzo known to mankind.. I just don't understand sense I believe its the weakest most useless benzo on the planet right next to ativan. And I am prescribed Temazepam for sleep so trust me when i say, I wish I liked it as much as Capt. Heroin.... but i digress, temazepam sucks imo and Xanax (alprazolam) is the KING of benzos..

Yeah except lorazepam feels better than alprazolam in high doses and lasts way longer. WHERES YOUR GOD NOW?

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

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