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Mr Crowley

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so I'm seeing lots of media crap regarding "flakka" and would like to know a few things since its in aus now.

what are the effects? both good and bad?

how can you tell the difference between flakka and mdma? taste, crystals, color?

any experiences or links to information would be appreciated. also I'm sorry if this thread is a duplicate or in the wrong place :c
 
I've never heard anyone use the term "flakka", except the media.
As for whether it is in australia or not - i think it is most likely being ordered from overseas, as it is illegal here and fairly unlikely to be sold by dealers or in head shops (though of course i could be wrong about this).

It is referring to a cathinone called alpha-PVP. It is nothing like MDMA at all, and is closer to a short-acting amphetamine. More like a really crappy meth/coke hybrid with a tendency towards psychosis that is not exaggerated. Plenty of info on bluelight if you put a-pvp into the search engine.
It is a white powder, smells kind of sickly and is active in very small amounts (~5mg).

It's a similar drug to the notorious MDPV, if you are familiar with that. While i think a-PVP is nasty shit that shouldn't be underestimated in terms of its potential for harm and mental illness, i can't really see it spreading like methamphetamine or other drugs.
It seems to be the latest media folkdevil drug; it has been doing the rounds since at least 2012, and i have honestly seen less of it (in online reports or anecdotal evidence) now than i did then. I havent seen much evidence of people selling "bath salts" (the 'legal highs' euphemism for these kinds of cathinones) for several years in australia. While i'm sure it happens, i don't see it being the kind of problem that certain tabloid media outlets make it out to be.
Australian Customs are so thorough that i dont believe it is a terrible threat to australian drug users. Anyone selling this as MDMA would be unlikely to have any return customers.
 
Deadly new drug hits Australia

FIRST ON 7: A new synthetic drug that is said to be worse than ice, has hit our shores.

The designer drug known as Flakka, causes bizarre and dangerous behaviour and has been blamed for several deaths in the US.

Now the cheap drug which is marketed to young people, has been detected in Australia.

“It will be appearing on the streets, it will be appearing in schools, it will be appearing in work places,” forensic toxicologist Andrew Leibie told 7 News.

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Forensic toxicologist Andrew Leibie says the drug will be appearing in schools and work places. Source: 7 News.

“They are marketed often as herbal highs or legal highs... Which of course they're not, they're completely synthetic.”

The drug which is targeted at young people who are used as guinea pigs, sells for as little as $15.

Also known as 'gravel', flakka's a type of NPS - a novel psychoactive substance.

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The medical and scientific community are deeply concerned about the drug, which is being increasingly produced.

“I wouldn't recommend that anyone goes near it, unless they want to turn themselves into some sort of lab experiment,” addiction medicine specialist Dr Philip Crowley told 7 News.

“There's no certainty about exactly what you're taking.”

Last year a woman on one of the drugs was taken to emergency after exhibiting bizarre behaviour at a city nightclub.

She had been compulsively licking the dance floor, so much so it shredded her tongue.

“It is a vast uncontrolled experiment on the young people of Australia,” Mr Leibie said.

With a few vids -

https://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/a/29684521/deadly-new-drug-hits-australia/
 
Licking the dance floor, awesome. At least she wasn't licking the floor of the club toilet, though it's probably not much better.
 
I've been given info from a very reliable source that a-PVP is being cut with, and sold as coke in Melbourne on a fairly large scale unfortunately. It has been happening for quite some time apparently.

Take care out there.
 
A-PVP, Ive done quite a bit of it over the years, mostly vaped, and Ive never chewed someones face off or had a psychotic episode apart from a bit of anxiety.

Ive suffered a red raw cock from wanking too much on it though
 
Labs detect flakka in workplace drug tests as police warn of new synthetic drug wave

IT IS the horror drug that sends users into wide-eyed rage, leaving them clawing at roads, lunging at cars and engaged in all manner of bizarre and dangerous behaviour.
And after fears it would reach Australian shores, dreaded designer drug flakka has now arrived.

Flakka — also known as gravel or alpha-PVP and one of many “bath salt” drugs around — has already terrified communities across the United States and Europe.
And now Australians are among its users, toxicology expert Andrew Leibie has told news.com.au.

“I know flakka has been reported in post-mortem findings in Australia, but whether or not it was the cause of death, or whether it was one of several drugs present, we don’t know,” he said.
“At the moment we’re starting to see it become more of an issue in Australia. (The US and Europe) are really having problems (with flakka) and I suspect we’re going to follow that experience.”

Florida is one of the worst-hit areas for flakka use. Earlier this year, a man high on flakka attacked a police officer after running naked through the streets, declaring himself God and having sex with a tree. A Fort Lauderdale man was also arrested naked and on flakka after he ran into traffic to escape an imaginary being he thought was trying to kill him. Flakka was also linked to the death of a Deerfield Beach man in December.
Now flakka has reached the Australian drug market, local companies are now worried their staff are using it.

Mr Leibie, who is the national marketing director for national drug testing laboratory Safe Work Laboratories, said his lab was testing for flakka in workplaces at a detection rate of 1 per cent, but stressed that wasn’t necessarily indicative of the rate of flakka use in Australia generally.

“We have had several approaches from large companies, mostly mining companies but some oil and gas companies as well, who have specifically said to us, ‘Can you please test for some of these drugs, including flakka’,” he said.

“I’m not certain what is driving that, whether companies have some intelligence on their side or they’re trying to get ahead of the curve, or possibly because they have some international operations and they’re seeing what’s happening in places like Miami in Florida. But it’s popping up on companies’ radars in Australia.”

Flakka is one of a large number of new psychoactive substances (NPS), which also includes drugs like synthetic cannabis. They are marketed as being “safe” or “herbal” alternatives to illicit drugs — but are far from it.
Mr Leibie said flakka and its derivatives triggered any number of reactions.

“Generally they have both a hallucinogenic-type affect, like LSD or magic mushrooms, but then they also have a stimulant effect, like ice,” he said.
“And you put the two together and it makes for a pretty nasty mix. People are thinking they’re seeing demons or the walls are possessed or whatever, and at the same time they have all the aggression and hyper stimulation and getting into fights for no reason that we see from ice usage.
“That’s what makes it so bad I guess — it’s taking the worst of those traditional drugs and combining them.”

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http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...thetic-drug-wave/story-fneuzlbd-1227553167240
 
Oh look more media bullshit on drugs.

I wonder why a-PVP is creeping in....or god forbid why it exists in the first place. It's not like it's replacing other things that have been made illegal. No...
 
It's been sold here for years. It replaced MDPV after the ban but was still available beforehand.

MDPV replaced 4-MMC. They were some good days.

4-MMC replaced MDMA when the AFP burnt the Saffron fields in Asia.
 
Hilarious reporting. I stopped using a-PVP 3+ years ago.
I'm glad news.com.au is keeping us up to date that it is "now in australia".

Without a constant new drug scare, what would we do?
 
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