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Flag desecration, and how about it?

Question for the folks who think burning flags is an offence to the people who died 'defending our freedom' - what happens when you realise most of that was less about defending freedom and more about forwarding the neo-imperialist agenda of the military industrial complex?

If our flags represent everything our countries propagate, I say burn 'em. If I was part of the indigenous population, I would have grown up seeing the flag for exactly what it is: a symbol of tyranny much like the communist hammer and sickle.
 
Flickering said:
Question for the folks who think burning flags is an offence to the people who died 'defending our freedom' - what happens when you realise most of that was less about defending freedom and more about forwarding the neo-imperialist agenda of the military industrial complex?

If our flags represent everything our countries propagate, I say burn 'em. If I was part of the indigenous population, I would have grown up seeing the flag for exactly what it is: a symbol of tyranny much like the communist hammer and sickle.
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Believing in the ideals the flag represents doesn't mean believing in the agenda of those in power, sometimes the most patriotic thing you can do is speak out against the actions of your government. Treason can just as easily refer to the actions of those in power whom swore to protect and defend the constitution and knowingly and willingly try to destroy it.
 
^A flag does also represent its respective state too, though. When people in far away lands are burning American flags I don't think they're saying "yeah! Take that, Bill of Rights!" Although I do I agree with your post. If America has/will become a repressive police state, perhaps the most "American" thing to be is to be anti-American.
 
You have a point, I think it depends on your own perspective. If you're American and have an interest in fixing the problems it's probably from the perspective of saving the country you live in, if you're from somewhere else and are a victim of US policy you probably wont really care about much more than stopping the US as a whole. That said I really hate people bashing the US if they're from a first world country and have no clear coherent reason for their hatred and think nothing of saying that shit to my face and expect me to say nothing, and if I do I must be an idiot American. Some hate us with good reason, but I think most people in the first world are just assholes jumping on the "smart people hate the us" social bandwagon.
 
Apparently this psychopathic twerp was a flag burner...

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Not sure why he's wearing a Gold's Gym shirt tho. I thought you were supposed to weigh more than 120lbs soaking wet for that shit.
 
So nothing. Just making fun of a psychopath who clearly had no rational reasoning for what he was doing.
 
nuttynutskin said:
...who clearly had no rational reasoning for what he was doing.
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you've mentioned this a couple of times now. leaving aside the obvious argument that anybody who murders people could hardly be described as acting rationally, what makes you believe this guy had no rational reasoning?

alasdair
 
It's pretty obvious to me he was capable of rational thought, and there's no evidence that he's a psychopath in the traditional sense of the word. Commuting a murderous hate crime does not make someone irrational nor a psychopath, these are just easy label's that completely disregard the complexities of the human mind. But complexities are tough and have hard answers, so much easier to apply a label, but I'm sure no one will listen to me.
 
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