First rave and my relapse...

[chitown rollin]

I also discourage the use of 5-htp. For some reason I started taking it in college thinking that it would replenish my serotonin faster (which it may) and I would roll harder and could roll more frequently. Anyways, I rolled every week... not unusually hard or anything.... and it made me anxious and kind of depressed? Weird I donno. Just let your serotonin system replenish itself the natural way.

 

[llama112]

1. Always carry water around with you. I always have 2 bottles of water on me, 1 in each pocket of my jeans, so that ones mine and 1 is for any idiots who forget your bodys basic needs to drink water!!!

2. Dont overhydrate in one go. Another good idea of walking around with water on you. Sips throughout the night are also how you dont be sick drinking water!!!

3. I dont know about anyone else. But i only roll once. I take one pill and thats it. Might do some ket afterwards but i wouldnt take more than one? Surely your serotonin is near enough all out and gone , so i dont think that chemically it would be a good idea to take another ?

*Also sharing water with people you dont know is a bad idea. You can get disease like this not sure which ones, Hepatitus?

Very good advice I'd say
Sipping water is how I do it too ... I can't handle too much at once. Gatorade/juice is good as well. It tastes a lot better usually Easier to drink anyway.

About sharing water ... true it is not a good idea but I think she needed it in this situation!! Sometimes you've got to decide what is most important.

Always space out your rolls a month apart from now on. Twice in a weekekend is not good. And taking multiple pills in a weekend is not good either.

 

[waketheeffup]

First bad comedown, i think your knowlege is great and your willingness to share it with people is awesome as well.

The thing i think you need to remember that is much different in your first bad comedown is that you gave yourself an enema and fucked up your digestive system IN MY OPINION more so this way, than with overuse of MDMA.

 

[waketheeffup]

I also discourage the use of 5-htp. For some reason I started taking it in college thinking that it would replenish my serotonin faster (which it may) and I would roll harder and could roll more frequently. Anyways, I rolled every week... not unusually hard or anything.... and it made me anxious and kind of depressed? Weird I donno. Just let your serotonin system replenish itself the natural way.

5htp is a wonderful supplement for treatment of anxiety, and many homeopathic folks would recommend this combined w L-Theanine with GABA to treat anxiety like symptoms outside of a benzo (we all know the dangers of benzos, but boy are they wonderful for the day after rolling)

Supposedly from many user experiences, don't take 5htp for more than 5 days. I've done this before and nothing adverse happened to me, i actually quite enjoyed it.

I had a period where i got some anxiety and bad after effects from MDA abuse (yes, MDA, much more neurotoxic than MDMA) and it wasnt until i discovered 5-HTP and a few other great supplements that i really "got back on track"

Piracetam (spelling?) is by far my favorite though. I take this, Aceytl L Carnitine, and L-Theanine with GABA (Theanine serene with RELORA as the bottle says) and a baby aspirin daily just for overall health. If you have panic attacks a baby aspirin will solve the fear of heart attack MEDICALLY (at least for me, it's the "wonder drug" for older folks, and its an 81mg dose, so nothing too hardcore), the Theanine will help calm you, the 5htp will help you go to sleep, the Piracetam will help boost your cognitive abilities, and the GABA will soothe your anxiety.

You'll be fine within a few months, it takes a little bit of time to shake it, hard drug hangovers are... hard lol

good luck and dont worry so much, you'll forget you were ever like this in a year im willing to bet

 

[waketheeffup]

I am 8 months into recovery, and it still isn't over. But life DOES get much easier.
However, research and anecdotal reports suggest that even heavy users experience complete resolution of anxiety/depression within 1-1.5 years.
Again, I doubt you will take nearly as long. I have seen several reports indicating recovery within a few weeks, rather than months.

This is the part that I disagree with as well in the majority of your help to folks. I think you spend a lot of time believing that you're recovering from an episode, instead of actually weighing it out and accepting that you've recovered completely. Yes, you won't recover fully because you cannot erase the fact that you had this experience, but is your brain HONESTLY not up to speed yet? Really?? Are you sure?

How do you know? IMO it takes a lot of INTERNAL processing and belief to ever move on from something, People can literally CONVINCE themselves sick.

Also, when people are experiencing this "downtime" and anxiety, do you really think its beneficial to tell someone that you're around a year and you still aren't in tip top condition? Imagine if your doctor told you after a stroke "you'll never be the same,"

well, I'd be willing to bet that person would never experience a full recovery because they honestly believe that they can't. However, if you tell that same person, "You can expect a full recovery, you just have to (insert things a stroke victim should do to help rehab themselves back into shape)" don't you think they'd do a lot better?

I've seen you saying things such as: your body shut down its digestion (again, enema) and you had severe anxiety and nothing you did could stop it for months and you still haven't recovered but "don't worry" cause it'll become more bearable every month.

that's scary and heavy stuff man, when you told me this in the midst of my comedown, it helped navigate me move more towards the feeling that i was gonna be really fucked for a long time. Scary bro. Thankfully i realized i was 100% "back" about a month and a half later (the anxiety and really scary stuff went away rather rapidly).

I cannot blame you for how i felt as that is my choice to feel said feelings by the way so don't think i'm holding you responsible for that fear. I think your intentions are fantastic and you're heart is in the right place, I'd encourage that you don't project your expectations for a long recovery onto people, just as you encourage folks to not share their experiences abusing mdma with little to no side effects. everyone is different and we all have different experiences and paths to undergo

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

To begin with
DAMN are you on speed or somethin, cause that post (OP) rivals my speed rants in length...
i dont understand...how did you relapse again mang?
btw.
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