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Fire/Flash Testing MDMA??

bigZ241

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Hi everyone! First post, so going to try and make it count!

As with anywhere, the purity and strength of MDMA varies. I know that an EZ test will only give a yes/no answer as to the contents of a pill or powder. I have been asking around as well as scowling the internet, but really can't find anything to do with testing PURITY.

I'm sure with the right lab equipment it can be done with ease, but what about those who don't have access to all this? I have a friend who swears by burning MDMA as a field test for purity of mdma. This makes sense to me, as a melting test can be used on tons of substances out there, illicit drugs or otherwise.

SWIM says that putting mdma in a spoon or on tinfoil and putting fire to the bottom gives results that speak to the purity of MDMA. Can this be true? Has anyone else heard this?

The theory is that the more potent MDMA should melt, turn clear, and then later turn red, and ending in a deep dark red. A lesser specimen does not turn as dark a red... Or so the theory goes

So I'm wondering how useful this test can actually be?

SWIM has tried this with two different powdered MDMA (molly) and both turned red, however took different times, and different shades of red. Here were SWIMs results

test 1:
1-15seconds: applied constant flame to under of spoon, at about 12s powder turned to clear liquid.
15-25seconds: slow change to a red, slightly more red than caramel (for those who have ever just melted sugar in a pan).
25-30seconds: deepening of colour, liquid almost looks "baked" to spoon now

test 2:
1-15seconds: again constant flame, equal quantity as first test. at 10s this time, powder melted to clear
15-25seconds: faster change to the same red as above, by about 22-24 seconds, colour change continued to an even darker hue then above.
25-30seconds: no real colour change, but the now very dark red liquid started to fizz or boil. No "baked" look like above

MDMA from test 1 is mg per mg stronger than test 2 when taken orally. SWIMs friends have all tried both, blah blah blah, number 1 was stronger.

CONCLUSION (Finally, I know, what a first post!):

Pure MDMA would likely have a higher melting point than adulterants (not all adulterants, but most). I would then assume the longer time it takes to melt to clear and then change colour, the more complete of a reaction was done to form the MDMA, as well as there being less adulterants.

Also SWIM did the above to another sample of MDMA that tested false to EZ tests, but was "sold" as real MDMA. Long story short, melted clear, no red colour, and fizzing/bubbling like in test 2.


Finally, I'm done! What do you think?
 
Bah please dont use swim here we dont use it we know your talking about yourself :)
welcome to the site bro.i wouldent know what to say about that as i havent tested much MDMA but seems like a waste to me =D
 
sorry for the SWIM, lots of forums, lots of conventions for posting. tried my best, haha!

EDIT: as for the testing, it took all of 0.05g to 'test' it. I'll waste that if it actually is worth doing. I'm pretty up tight about getting what i paid for, quality, and all that
 
Cool bigZ, I've been questioning some powder I have and just tested with your method.

Long story short it turned clear in 13sec, changedto red about 5 sec later, and then started to actually smell like caramel and the color darkened and well as the liquid started to vaporize. Thanks for the new method! I hope its pretty accurate.

Link to my marquis results: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=554380
 
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Dear seattlestranger, I just saw your post on the roll call thread and was wondering if you're going to kandyland 7 this saturday? If so, LETS MEET UP! :)

Also, I probably inhaled some vapor but I only burned probably 15mg so no effect was noted or expected.
 
Hey Dub Nub. I know Im not a moderator or anything even staff-like but I believe its a no-no to use the actual names of events. Not trying to bitch just trying to keep you from getting bitched at.
 
not sure about the rules here, but the event in question is completely legal ( i actually dropped by there tonight ), so it should be good.

not 100% on that though.

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as for the fire/flash testing, would be good to hear more reports on peoples experience with this method. i don't have a testing kit here and i'm trying to figure out if there is any mdma in the pills i have.
 
sick party huh gray? :D if I did brake any rules I am sorry, had no idea you couldn't post legal rave names.
 
I would think melting it in a meth pipe would be a better way since its clear and you can hold it up to light
 
Turns out even though my molly tested like the OP's, it was total bunk shit. 150mgs produced no effects whatsoever. It was just extremely weak and cut to shit leading me to believe this is not a viable way of testing mdma.
 
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