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films: Hardest Movies to Understand

Edvard Munch

Edvard Munch

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So I just watched the beginning of "Heat" and I am lost. Other movies I'm okay in understanding, but some movies I just sit there and ask "What is going on?" Some of the harder movies to understand for me are "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Pi: Faith in Chaos" .

What movies do you encounter that you cant follow?
 
Anything by David Lynch, but I don't think those are meant to be completely understood. And I just didn't get Eyes Wide Shut at all and I was really dissapointed in myself for it (enjoyed all the boobies though).

I didn't really find Fear and Loathing or Pi very difficult to follow though?
 
yes, lynch- blue velvet is maybe the most easily waded through but fire walk with me and lost highway... hrm can be stumpers. nonlinear art films confuse people, and films that must be watched for every second in fear of glancing away and not noticing the final missing piece falling into place both confuse and aggervate.
ive heard a friend or two say pulp fiction was too all over the place and hard to get a handle on... i just think thats what made it genius
 
perhaps "hard to understand" and "open to interpretation" and "defies conventional analysis" are synonymous?

i love a symbolic, non-literal movie as much as the next guy but i find some of peter greenaway's stuff a bit of a slog.

alasdair
 
I thought Memento was extremely hard to follow....

Pi and Fear and Loathing.. i dunno.. i watch those type of movies frequently. not hard to follow for me..
 
i think there's a tendency to try to over-analyse certain movies (memento is one) as they are happening in case we miss something.

i find, often, the best approach is to sit back and just let the movie wash over me in a more general way and it seems, a little counterintuitively, easier to follow.

alasdair
 
^^ yep, exactly.

I think if you view cinema as an art form over analysing and taking *too* strong an intellectual perspective most often devalues the essence of the work.

A great case in point which i value to a degree is Federico Fellini's 8 1/2 . You really had to as you said just sit back and let the film wash over you in a more general way to be able to get something out of it. For those who havent seen it the movies directed in such a way so that it's a complete wish wash of dream sequences, fantasy elements, and reality. It's a movie, and it's simultaneously a movie about the making of that movie... Very tricky. If you try to rationalise everything in it, well.., you just cant.
 
FunkyAlfonzo said:
Anything by David Lynch, but I don't think those are meant to be completely understood. And I just didn't get Eyes Wide Shut at all and I was really dissapointed in myself for it (enjoyed all the boobies though).
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I was going to post Eyes Wide Shut. I just don't get it fully. Everytime I watch it, I get a different perspective. i wonder if the DVD has the commentary??
 
j22 said:
I didnt get "Donnie Darko" the first 2 times I saw it.
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There is no definate ending to Donnie Darko. That's the beauty of it imo. You try to get your head around it but you can't if you add everything up. It makes no sense and perfect sense at the same time.

I thought The Usual Suspects was supposed to be a famous hard film to follow. It's one film I really wanna see but haven't gotten round to it.
 
wanderer21 said:
I was going to post Eyes Wide Shut. I just don't get it fully. Everytime I watch it, I get a different perspective. i wonder if the DVD has the commentary??
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No commentary, unfortunately SK (RIP) passed away about the same time he completed the film.


Most films I enjoy more when analysing alot, but I just need to give a films some months after analysis to purge my thoughts of it.


One of the few films I still don't grasp (to a satisafactory level) is Magnolia. I enjoy the ride every time, but I sense i'm missing alot too.

The Usual Suspects isn't hard. Just enjoy the ride.
 
Houston said:
Lastnight i was "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" for the first time ever and i had absolutly no idea what was going on in the movie. By the end i had given up trying to figure out if the characters in the movie were tripping or if it was just all part of my trip 8)
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Yeah I found this movie hard to fully comprehend after the first viewing. After reading the book and watching the movie again it is actually pretty straight forward.

The key to understanding the end, is to realise that most of the disjointed clips are flashbacks. In the book this part is told in a fairly linear fashion which makes it easier to understand what is happening.
 
I watched Fear and Loathing for the first time all the way through while I was on mushrooms. WHAT?!

Mollholand Drive would also had been one if I hadn't watched it with poeple that had already watched it a couple times through to help me understand after it was over.
 
Believe it or not, "Ghost in the Shell." The plot is extremely convoluted (IMO), and the occasionally densely-packed philosophy make it need a few viewings before it kind of settles into place.

The end of "American Psycho" left me scratching my head. I think "Cube" deserves some honorable mention, maybe followed by "Existenz." Finally, I found "K-Pax" to be a brainteaser, but I know that was it's intention. :)
 
OMg, i almost forget. The first time i watched AKIRA on dvd....with my full attention plus subtitles.....my brain got kind of overworked figuring out WTF is this jap dude spazzing about? LOL
 
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