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films: Cinematic Devices That You Hate...

Larr_E

Larr_E

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I always hate it when the characters are on a river and they didn't know that they were heading towards a waterfall. Then then get saved just in time...






What do you hate???
 
i typically notice things like that, too, but somehow... i've never thought about that one.

i can't think of any at the moment, but i'm sure some will come to me.
 
the countless variations on good guy and bad guy shooting invisible bullets at one another and then the bad guy falls down inexplicably.



cheap writing
 
When the chief of police (or protagonist's boss, whatever) turns out to have been the real bad guy all along...
 
--Freeze frames. Thank God these mostly went out in the '80s.

--Montages are annoying unless done very well; fortunately, these aren't as common today, either. Team America makes a pretty spot-on jab at this technique.

--People walking in slow motion towards the camera, side by side, to indicate how "cool" they are. Bonus for adding smoke or wind blowing their clothes back.

--In the same way, someone turning and walking away just as something explodes in the background, to which they have no reaction.

--The gunmen with automatics and unlimited ammunition who couldn't hit a monkey in the ass with a bass fiddle.

--Roger Ebert pointed this out: The villain who kills his henchmen to show how evil he is.

--The henchman who never says anything but is always by his master's side.

--In romances: the corny-ass, tearful meetings in airports, bus stops, and train stations at the last minute, especially when hundreds of complete strangers start clapping and shouting encouragement. I first noticed this in Crocodile Dundee (though it's certainly older), and it's been a poison in every chick flick I've been Shanghaied into seeing.

I could go on and on, but I have to get ready for work...
 
Sudden, loud noises and any other cheap device that attempts to scare us via our reflexes rather than in our mind.

Fast editing generally, but it does have it's place in small doses. An example of the worst kind is in Requiem for a Dream. Those quick shots of drug taking, eyes dilating, etc. Please, you can't polish a turd.

Not a device, but something else that annoys me is when a character hangs up a phone without saying "bye". Who doesn't say "bye"?
 
In movie trailers, when they try to make it dramatic by separating a bunch of scenes with a "whoosh" and a moment of blackness. Made worse by dramatic music and whooshing.
 
fast motion looks retarded anywhere except benny hill
but especially in supposedly scary films.
 
the fallback way to push ahead a story line, especially in a detective story... the phone call just in the nick of time from the chief/ME/whoever with enlightening information that lays out the next five minutes of the movie or show without the characters actually having to do anything resembling thinking.
 
EJ said:
Those quick shots of drug taking, eyes dilating, etc.
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that was "hip hop montage." i don't typically mind it for some reason. i don't understand why everyone here seems so against requiem anyways, i think a lot of people expect too much out of it. at the time it was pretty unique, nowadays, people over use the stylistic approach. i know not everyone's gonna like that movie, but it seems like EVERYONE on bluelight swears against it. :\

i can't stand vulgarity for the sake of being vulgar. too much cussing just waters down the dialogue. there are other ways to get the point across.
 
I hate it when they interject a scene (that has nothing to do with the story) just for the sake of being politically correct. In A League Of Their Own there is a scene where a black woman throws the ball past Gina Davis to another girl and hurt the hand of the girl that caught it. The made a point to note that the black woman was in a segregated area. That had nothing to do with the story line at all. They just wanted to be PC to make people like Al Sharpton happy...
 
this is a very cool thread.

ryanlaughlin said:
that was "hip hop montage." i don't typically mind it for some reason. i don't understand why everyone here seems so against requiem anyways, i think a lot of people expect too much out of it. at the time it was pretty unique, nowadays, people over use the stylistic approach. i know not everyone's gonna like that movie, but it seems like EVERYONE on bluelight swears against it. :\
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for the record, i have always and still do love that film.

juice by ryan juice by ryan
whoooooo
ryan got the juice ryan the the juice
whooooooo
RYAN!
 
The one-word zingers right before they know they're going to die. I can't think of a particular film example but something like

".... INCOMING!!!!!" - now dude is dead.

Is he really going to crack a dumb interjection right before he dies? What an idiotic way to die.
 
^yeah, and on the other side, stupid short lines before firing a weapon. :!
 
I hate forced romantic sub-plots.

The kind where it looks like the script was written without one but then the corporate suits came in and said "The script is great but we think there needs to be some romance in here to appeal to the 18-35 female demographic." It's cool if the romance is part of the story or is there to explain the character's motivation. But a lot of times it's just an unnecessary distraction from the story.

The supreme example of this is The Matrix. Not only does the romantic sub-plot add NOTHING to the story but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. WHAT exactly they like about each other is never really explained. And it didn't help that the actors had zero chemistry with each other. Clumsiest and most forced romantic subplot ever...
 
^ another good example would be "enemy at the gates." though i LOVE the movie... the love story almost ruined it completely for me.

Impacto Profundo said:
^yeah, and on the other side, stupid short lines before firing a weapon. :!
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or like in the case of david caruso... stupid short one liners before he does anything.

black chick: he died hours before the accident ever happened."
david caruso: so our accident................... is no accident at all."

here check out this youtube video to get a great example of such a shitty cinematic device. :)

btw, L2R, i'm glad you like requiem. i suppose that makes two of us. :\
 
ryanlaughlin said:
that was "hip hop montage." i don't typically mind it for some reason. i don't understand why everyone here seems so against requiem anyways, i think a lot of people expect too much out of it. at the time it was pretty unique, nowadays, people over use the stylistic approach. i know not everyone's gonna like that movie, but it seems like EVERYONE on bluelight swears against it. :\
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I'm surprised you say that actually, because from my perspective it seemed like EVERYONE on Bluelight loved it. It certainly did well in that drug movie poll. Was leading for ages.

Romantic sub-plots are probably my biggest pet-hate, I can't believe I didn't think to mention it. It shows with me too, as there's hardly a love story in my all-time top ten.
 
i didn't even think to check that poll. it just seems like (not saying it's the case with you) as "hip" as it was to like it at first, it became equally as "hip" to NOT like it later on. i suppose that's the case with most things though. people like to be the first to discover a movie, tv show, etc. then they like to be the first to denounce it when everyone jumps on the wagon. i still love that movie.

and i'm a sucker for love stories, but the love sub-plots... no.
 
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