• ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️



    Film & Television

    Welcome Guest


    ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
  • ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
    Forum Rules Film Chit-Chat
    Recently Watched Best Documentaries
    ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
  • Film & TV Moderators: ghostfreak

Films About 9/11 (Flight 93 trailer released, see p. 2)

wanderlust

Bluelighter
Joined
Jan 6, 2002
Messages
3,755
Location
shoreline
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9270886/
Films finally begin to take on 9/11
Toronto Film Fest features some movies that deal directly with the tragedy
Related Articles

Updated: 3:15 p.m. ET Sept. 9, 2005
TORONTO - Anguish over Sept. 11 lingers, yet filmmakers slowly are overcoming an early reticence to address the attacks with a growing number of projects examining the horrors and heroes and even finding rays of humor in the tragedy.

Leading the way are two yet-untitled projects, Oliver Stone’s big-screen tale starring Nicolas Cage in the story of two New York City rescuers involved in the World Trade Center aftermath and an ABC miniseries chronicling the terrorist attacks.

The Toronto International Film Festival features a handful of films that, with the initial shock of Sept. 11 wearing off, now are beginning to incorporate the events in historical context as facts of everyday life.

“It takes artists awhile both to digest current events and get films made. This lag of four years makes sense, if one was going to predict accurately when we would start seeing these kinds of films,” said Noah Cowan, Toronto festival co-director.

Among the Toronto films: “The War Within,” a chilling portrait of an Arab student falsely detained as a terrorism suspect who seeks revenge against the United States by joining a terrorist cell that plots a new wave of Sept. 11-like attacks around New York City, the targets including Grand Central Station.

Another Toronto entry, “Sorry, Haters,” stars Robin Wright Penn as a troubled, angry New Yorker who forges an unlikely bond with an Arab taxi driver, the relationship set against the backdrop of post-Sept. 11 Manhattan.

Silverman takes on taboo topics
In her performance film “Sarah Silverman: Jesus Is Magic,” comedian Silverman takes on a range of taboo topics — AIDS, the Holocaust, race relations — with a fierce politically incorrect attitude.

Regarding Sept. 11, Silverman jokes that American Airlines missed out on a good marketing slogan: “American Airlines: First through the towers.” She also kids that Sept. 11 was especially trying for her because it was the same day she learned that the soy lattes she had been drinking daily had a whopping 900 calories.

Silverman said it took her a long while after Sept. 11 before she could think about including material on the attacks in her act but that eventually the need for humor won out.

“I always want to laugh at the sad stuff. You don’t need to laugh at the other stuff,” Silverman said. “I’m not numb to these things. I still go into really dark periods about Sept. 11. I think it’s kind of like bullies. Bullies are just scared and thin-skinned, so they have to become bullies as a kind of survival tactic. I think comics are that way, too.”

Other films related to Sept. 11 are finding their way into theaters, onto television and on DVD. The documentary “The Flight That Fought Back” — examining United Airlines Flight 93, whose passengers died in a crash after they foiled one of the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11 — played in a handful of movie theaters in advance of its TV debut.

“Flight From Death: The Quest for Immortality,” a documentary that includes a segment on how the Sept. 11 attacks wounded the American psyche, came out this week on DVD.

“Answering the Call: Ground Zero’s Volunteers,” a documentary about emergency personnel that mobilized on Sept. 11, is playing at memorial screenings this month in several cities.

“Protocols of Zion,” which opens theatrically in October, looks at a surge in anti-Semitism that followed the Sept. 11 attacks.

also 9/10- 'the flight that fought back' on discovery channel
 
no, that's "cashing in."

I predict crap. over-dramatized hollywood crap.
 
Sideways_Falling said:
making a blockbuster film is "coping" ?


no, making a film isn't coping. I said "coped". the "ed" shows it's past tense.

making a film shows we've coped. coped... and moving on. just like I said in my first reply. ;)

so to reiterate... we've already coped. moved on. and are ready for films.
 
hmm. I'mma bit torn.

Many musicians, poets, and painters..even some novelists have taken on 9/11. Why not filmmakers? Artistic expression of a great tragedy i think is gravely important.

On the other hand i understand the shallowness and callusness of people merely cashing in off other's misery, and i think that's pathetic.

But.. lets ask this. CNN, FOX, ABC, NBC.. they too were "cashing in" on 9/11. Advertisements on these stations didn't hault b/c 9/11 happened. It drove their ratings sky high.

On the other note, we needed to know and i think it was great we were informed. We would expect nothing less of news organizations, yet the theory of them "cashing in" doesn't really come into play with our daily discussion of that.

I think there's two ways (a pro and con) to look at it.

I'm sure some of the suits at the MPAA corporations are popping wood at the though of how this will increase their capital. I'm sure some filmmakers might even be like this. But i don't think everyone that wants to participate in an artistic expression of a tragedy that hits close to home to so many of us, would be doing so to fatten their wallets and i think it's a bit unfair to judge it as such.
 
Stone can only express one opinion. He's really good at expressing it well.
 
DigitalDuality said:
hmm. I'mma bit torn.

Many musicians, poets, and painters..even some novelists have taken on 9/11. Why not filmmakers? Artistic expression of a great tragedy i think is gravely important.

On the other hand i understand the shallowness and callusness of people merely cashing in off other's misery, and i think that's pathetic.

But.. lets ask this. CNN, FOX, ABC, NBC.. they too were "cashing in" on 9/11. Advertisements on these stations didn't hault b/c 9/11 happened. It drove their ratings sky high.

On the other note, we needed to know and i think it was great we were informed. We would expect nothing less of news organizations, yet the theory of them "cashing in" doesn't really come into play with our daily discussion of that.

I think there's two ways (a pro and con) to look at it.

I'm sure some of the suits at the MPAA corporations are popping wood at the though of how this will increase their capital. I'm sure some filmmakers might even be like this. But i don't think everyone that wants to participate in an artistic expression of a tragedy that hits close to home to so many of us, would be doing so to fatten their wallets and i think it's a bit unfair to judge it as such.

Exactly my feelings. Very well put.
 
keystroke said:
where's the new spielburg movie about a hurricane killing thousands of blacks?

damn that movie will make a lot of money! 8(

there probably will be a movie on katrina somewhere along the line, there's already some documentaries about it.

do you honestly think that everyone involved in making movies wrapped around tragedy is simply after a buck?

Before anyone criticizes it again, answer that.

Showing the horror and tragedy people at 9/11..or Katrina, or whatever, goes through can really touch peoples hearts in a more personalizing way than say news reports. It can dramatically effect their opinions politically, it can knock off our typical dehumanization of these things b/c of our obsessive political discussions about them, and knock them back down to a human level.

Was Hotel Rwanda tasteless? Was it merely after a buck? Could you think of a more horrible tragedy? Do you think it was "that" long ago? hell, they're still dealing with it over there to some degree.
 
I'll throw Shindler's list in the mix too. Just a money making machine? is that all that was? There plenty of surivors around that would argue it was tasteless and after a buck.
 
DigitalDuality said:
do you honestly think that everyone involved in making movies wrapped around tragedy is simply after a buck?

Before anyone criticizes it again, answer that.

Not always, but the swiftness of these movies being put into action makes them questionable.

If you refer to my first post in this thread I mentioned maybe in 20 or 30 years these films will be more appropriate.

DigitalDuality said:
I'll throw Shindler's list in the mix too. Just a money making machine? is that all that was? There plenty of surivors around that would argue it was tasteless and after a buck.

Filmed and released almost 50 years after the events occurred. This film reaches a whole new generation that hardly knew anything of the holocaust and opens our eyes to the horrors. Essentially passing the events and knowledge on. This film works as a memorial and tribute and NOT a money making blockbuster because of the time allowed. granted I know Steven didn't say 50 years ago I'll make a movie about the holocaust in about 50 years because this will be the best way for it to truly live on. but it is a good example of how it could work...

these films are going to be shit. I don't care if they are the film makers artistic way of tribute (and not a money making machine) to whatever disaster, they'll fail. If they really wanted to make in film a message that would essentially live on forever they would... screw it //rant
 
Hotel Rwanda wasn't filmed 50 years later. :\

A downfall of waiting that incredibly long, what if the film makes wants as many first hand accounts of it he/she can find? What if an actor/actress is based on a real life person, and the person is providing some kind of guidance as to what really happened. These things will fade over time.

Like i said, with each and any of these films there will probably be some fucktard involved that thinks its a great way to make money.

But i will not deny that artistic expression, regardles of the medium, of an event that has touched so many of us, is important and i have no complaint about that.
 
Same for you as well. If a film was made about 9/11, i would hope that a good majority of the profits would go to a charity of some kind to those affected directly by the tragedy.
 
If it takes a movie to personalise this tragedy and make it hit home to the masses, it's a sad indictment on the state of the media, but so be it.

It may (if well made and accurate, i.e. not just an American pride tribute) make people realise that certain things about the event and its consequences and seek to be more educated as a result. And that would be a good thing.
 
Top