AmorRoark
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I found the really graphic sex scene pretty unnecessary. I guess I'd rather just watch porn. 
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film: WATCHMEN
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Max Power
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wow, I don't even know how to respond to this.
AmorRoark
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I think the face is good enough. :D
face is good enough. :D
SnailS1904
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3 stars just for the CGI....
move was boring and entirely way to long
i felt no connection with the characters except for the guy with the white and black mask.
move was boring and entirely way to long
i felt no connection with the characters except for the guy with the white and black mask.
Max Power
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I think the
I just found out on Wikipedia that only 4 died. I think that prbly doesn't help my case.
Damn you probability!!!
CHiLD-0F-THE-BEAT
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I loved the montage in the beginning, and while the soundtrack was strange and unnerving in parts, Busty and I came to the conclusion that it was probably designed to do just that. I find if I'm watching a film and a predictable well-matched music sequence begins [i.e.: swelling strings for an emotional scene] I can tend to 'zone out' and lose touch of what's going on in the film. It's as if my mind thinks it already knows what's going on and joins the dots automatically without actually participating. The choices of music in Watchmen forced me to really look at what was happening for my brain to register a 'wtfbbq' reaction.
I loved the cinematography, scripting and acting.
Spoiler inside:
I felt the violence was beautiful and grotesque, and clearly gratuitous. I still wouldn't have had it any other way. Some of those scenes of great violence were truly breath-taking. Some of the film even reminded me of Saw - a very positive thing, imho.
Spoiler inside:
My favourite character by far was Rorschach. I adored how they portrayed his ever-changing mask, and discovering his dark past made me love him even more.
Doctor Manhattan was portrayed in an excellent way, but I was troubled by his complexity and God-like status. Do the comics flesh this out any more than the film?
The plot was great if not a little too long, and I didn't really love the ending. That said, I gave it
, as I was thoroughly entertained the whole way through. 
I loved the cinematography, scripting and acting.
Spoiler inside:
NSFW:
I felt the violence was beautiful and grotesque, and clearly gratuitous. I still wouldn't have had it any other way. Some of those scenes of great violence were truly breath-taking. Some of the film even reminded me of Saw - a very positive thing, imho.
Spoiler inside:
NSFW:
My favourite character by far was Rorschach. I adored how they portrayed his ever-changing mask, and discovering his dark past made me love him even more.
Doctor Manhattan was portrayed in an excellent way, but I was troubled by his complexity and God-like status. Do the comics flesh this out any more than the film?
The plot was great if not a little too long, and I didn't really love the ending. That said, I gave it
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PureLife
Bluelighter
Unfortunately I attempted to watch this movie on Sunday in the theaters. I had a seizure about 100min. into the movie. Then I was catatonic for the next four hours. I put on quite a show for the people viewing the movie. I can't say the same for the people who treated me at the hospital.
oh, I have epilepsy, in case your wondering about the seizure.
oh, I have epilepsy, in case your wondering about the seizure.
His Name Is Frank
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I couldn't help but laugh when I saw the amount of people who brought their kids to this movie. I'm talking 7-8 year kids watching this with their parents. If the graphic violence didn't make for an interesting conversation with them on the way home, I'm sure the fuck scenes did.
People are just stupid. They assume it's a superhero movie because it has men in costumes, automatically think Spiderman or Batman, and completely ignore the R rating.
People are just stupid. They assume it's a superhero movie because it has men in costumes, automatically think Spiderman or Batman, and completely ignore the R rating.
CHiLD-0F-THE-BEAT
Bluelighter
^Jesus fucking Christ. I can't believe people could take their children into this film?! I'm a big fan of violence in film, and even I was affected by some of the scenes. Not to mention the graphic sex scene, great fuck..
AmorRoark
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My friend bought me my ticket as I was running late. She said she saw a mother buying a ticket for her child as well. 8(
His Name Is Frank
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I made my first true meme. Woot.
indelibleface
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Okay, I saw it on IMAX. I've let it settle in, thought about the film, and then came to a conclusion. It was absolutely friggin' awesome. Awesome. Awesome. And, on IMAX, it was even better. I can't imagine seeing a movie on small screen again, especially a film like Watchmen.
There are some shortcomings with the film that I'll address. First, everyone complains about Malin Ackerman's acting, and you know, it didn't bother me that much, but there were some scenes where it kind of brought me out of the universe of the film, but I realized it's just the high calibre of the other actors (like Jackie Earle Haley a.k.a. Rorschach) that made her look bad by comparison. I also felt some of the sex and violence was a bit too gratuitous - the fight scenes themselves felt a bit obligatory - in many of the scenes, and especially Nite Owl and Silk Spectre II's combo battle scenes, it seemed like they were just parading through bad guys, sweeping them away into walls like floaty toys in a swimming pool. I got no sense of tension - there was no moment were I might have felt "Oh, he might actually get hit...once..." The sex scenes are fine, although less is more in movies sometimes, and a bit more effective drama might have been generated had they shortened those scenes a little. And the rape scene, well, I felt like they went beyond the source material and made it a bit overly brutal - it wasn't really like that in the novel.
Oh, and Nixon looked retarded. He looked like an SNL parody of Nixon. I tried to basically ignore him.
Okay, anyway, those aside, the film was absolutely brilliant. The acting was, for the most part, totally effective, and most of the characters absolutely nailed their parts. I really felt like I was watching the comic book, brought to life, on the big screen. Jackie Earle Haley, in particular, was unbelievable. I could not have hoped for a better Rorschach. In a perfect world, this would net him an Oscar. No kidding. Matthew Goode (Ozymandias) threw me off at first, but I came to appreciate the subtleties he poured into the role. Billy Crudup perfectly portrayed Dr. Manhattan as a detatched God-being. It was a very understated and beautiful performance. Bottom line - I can't really fault any of them - no one in the main cast was outright awful, even Ackerman.
The music was absolutely fabulous. Not just the rock tunes, which were pulled directly from quotations in the source material, but the orchestral score was haunting and memorable. Especially in the sequence where Dr. Manhattan's backstory is told. It brought me into the moment and made me feel like I was a part of another world. I mean, that's the biggest plus of this movie - it brought me into the Watchmen universe. I was there. It's summarily a beautiful film - the cinematography is a joy to behold, and the set design is meticulous and well-researched.
The changes to the ending actually made sense better in a thematic setting. I loved the closeness to detail, while still appreciating the creative choices Snyder made. In conclusion, I was deeply moved by this movie. I have to say you must treat it as a different entity than the graphic novel. It's hard sometimes to separate the two, but I've made a conscious effort to, and I've stopped nitpicking and simply enjoyed this film for what it is. I can see how audiences would be divided over it - it's slow sometimes, cryptic even, but I tend to like slower-paced films. It's like a work of abstract beauty - almost like an Aronofsky or Kubrick flick.
All I could say when the movie was done was "Wow."
Good fucking job.
There are some shortcomings with the film that I'll address. First, everyone complains about Malin Ackerman's acting, and you know, it didn't bother me that much, but there were some scenes where it kind of brought me out of the universe of the film, but I realized it's just the high calibre of the other actors (like Jackie Earle Haley a.k.a. Rorschach) that made her look bad by comparison. I also felt some of the sex and violence was a bit too gratuitous - the fight scenes themselves felt a bit obligatory - in many of the scenes, and especially Nite Owl and Silk Spectre II's combo battle scenes, it seemed like they were just parading through bad guys, sweeping them away into walls like floaty toys in a swimming pool. I got no sense of tension - there was no moment were I might have felt "Oh, he might actually get hit...once..." The sex scenes are fine, although less is more in movies sometimes, and a bit more effective drama might have been generated had they shortened those scenes a little. And the rape scene, well, I felt like they went beyond the source material and made it a bit overly brutal - it wasn't really like that in the novel.
Oh, and Nixon looked retarded. He looked like an SNL parody of Nixon. I tried to basically ignore him.
Okay, anyway, those aside, the film was absolutely brilliant. The acting was, for the most part, totally effective, and most of the characters absolutely nailed their parts. I really felt like I was watching the comic book, brought to life, on the big screen. Jackie Earle Haley, in particular, was unbelievable. I could not have hoped for a better Rorschach. In a perfect world, this would net him an Oscar. No kidding. Matthew Goode (Ozymandias) threw me off at first, but I came to appreciate the subtleties he poured into the role. Billy Crudup perfectly portrayed Dr. Manhattan as a detatched God-being. It was a very understated and beautiful performance. Bottom line - I can't really fault any of them - no one in the main cast was outright awful, even Ackerman.
The music was absolutely fabulous. Not just the rock tunes, which were pulled directly from quotations in the source material, but the orchestral score was haunting and memorable. Especially in the sequence where Dr. Manhattan's backstory is told. It brought me into the moment and made me feel like I was a part of another world. I mean, that's the biggest plus of this movie - it brought me into the Watchmen universe. I was there. It's summarily a beautiful film - the cinematography is a joy to behold, and the set design is meticulous and well-researched.
The changes to the ending actually made sense better in a thematic setting. I loved the closeness to detail, while still appreciating the creative choices Snyder made. In conclusion, I was deeply moved by this movie. I have to say you must treat it as a different entity than the graphic novel. It's hard sometimes to separate the two, but I've made a conscious effort to, and I've stopped nitpicking and simply enjoyed this film for what it is. I can see how audiences would be divided over it - it's slow sometimes, cryptic even, but I tend to like slower-paced films. It's like a work of abstract beauty - almost like an Aronofsky or Kubrick flick.
All I could say when the movie was done was "Wow."
Good fucking job.
His Name Is Frank
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Excellent review, Indelibleface. I feel the same about alot of what you've said (the guy playing Nixon looked like an idiot with that larger-than-life nose and Billy Crudup played Dr. Manhattan in a very subtle manner of a being who is growing increasingly indifferent and unattached to the humans around him) I also thought Jackie Earl Halie as Rorshach was the best part of the movie.
I have never read any of the graphic novels and had no idea what to expect. It was kind of all jumbled together and I didn't really care for the ending, but I liked it enough to give it 3 stars. It was almost 3 hours long, but the time flew by quick.
Did the show previews at the beginning when anyone else saw it? They didn't when I saw it. It went straight to the logo and movie. I've seen movies longer than Watchmen and have never seen them skip the trailers.
I have never read any of the graphic novels and had no idea what to expect. It was kind of all jumbled together and I didn't really care for the ending, but I liked it enough to give it 3 stars. It was almost 3 hours long, but the time flew by quick.
Did the show previews at the beginning when anyone else saw it? They didn't when I saw it. It went straight to the logo and movie. I've seen movies longer than Watchmen and have never seen them skip the trailers.
CHiLD-0F-THE-BEAT
Bluelighter
^They showed a heap of previews where we saw it.
indelibleface
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During the IMAX version they showed a couple previews in standard theater resolution, but the Star Trek trailer was sadly missing, to my dismay (I was hoping to see an IMAX version of the trailer, which would have been epic). It seems they just don't do previews much when it's IMAX.
Oh, by the way, Roger Ebert gave the film four stars.
Here's the link to his review.
And here's a blog entry he made on the film, kind of dissecting the movie more, talking about the characters and what not. Really nice to hear his opinion of the movie was so overwhelmingly positive, and it's also nice to hear someone provide a very in-depth analysis of the plot, the characters, and their relation to one another who has not read the comic.
Oh, by the way, Roger Ebert gave the film four stars.
Here's the link to his review.
And here's a blog entry he made on the film, kind of dissecting the movie more, talking about the characters and what not. Really nice to hear his opinion of the movie was so overwhelmingly positive, and it's also nice to hear someone provide a very in-depth analysis of the plot, the characters, and their relation to one another who has not read the comic.
Raz
Bluelighter
I pretty much agree with this. Dr Manhattan should have sounded boomy and divorced from humanity; instead he sounded like an emo bitch. Ozymandias should have looked like an Aryan superman; instead he looked effete.
In addition, I have to wonder if Watchmen needed to be made at all....I think the comic's strength is in what it says about superhero comics. It is by its very nature a product that has a select audience. It's also 20 years out of date....comics these days revel in the kind of ultra-violence and murky moral ground that Watchmen serves up....it's no longer a shocking new interpretation of the superhero genre, it's just another superhero movie, and in that I think it loses a lot of its original impact.
The cold war and Nixon are not threats to anybody under the age of 30. The cold war is something that our parents used to worry about, and Nixon is the funny evil dude from Futurama. I question how much relevance these inclusions have to a modern audience.
I was also really unsettled by the roles that women played in this movie. There were three women who had more than a line of dialogue in over two and a half hours of film....one was a rape victim who was in love with her rapist, another was a character whose whole purpose was to manipulate one of the other heroes, and the third was someone whose sole purpose was to function as someone or other's girlfriend. Seriously, imagine the movie without Silk Spectre in it....there wouldn't be sex, but aside from that nothing would change. I don't know if this is because Alan Moore had a problem with women in the 80's or if it's a statement on how women are treated in comics, but either way, it kind of made me uneasy...
All in all, I would call Watchmen a well-dressed failure. It wasn't a terrible film by any stretch of the imagination, but I wasn't all that impressed either.
AmorRoark
Bluelight Crew
I sincerely appreciate your review Raz. It really made me think about how women are portrayed in comic books (and films in general too really ![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
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