Film: The Dark Knight

[His Name Is Frank]

what possible reason would you have for doing that?

I like to cause ripples. Just on IMDB though. Plus, it's pretty much a given that this is a 10 star movie in my mind. Now, in movie news that's sure to give all batlovers some serious wood:

IMDB

Knight Director May Shoot Next Film In IMAX
21 July 2008 10:30 AM, PDT


Director Christopher Nolan, who shot the action sequences in The Dark Knight using gigantic IMAX cameras, says that he "would be very interested in shooting a whole film in IMAX" since it would allow him to provide a theatrical movie that would "be distinct from the home theater experience." In an interview with the Collider website, Nolan said that the principal problem is the noise produced by the IMAX camera's mechanism, which apparently cannot be adequately contained by the usual soundproof "blimp" used for most studio cameras. "It's very, very hard to see how you do dialogue scenes," he said. "And the lenses are so wide, you're shooting this conversation, the cameras go 18 inches from your nose, basically, and it sounds like one of those small portable generators -- that's about the level of volume of it. So to just speak over that and to act as if that's not there is very tough."

 

[L2R]

^interesting.

but i still don't see how one can rate a film before seeing it.



anyway, we're planning to catch it at imax tonight.

 

[vegan]

But are the bats reconstructing their prey's face?

no, but that's not the point
it would be the same idea, more developped

I find it sort of silly that everyone says 'with the right technology' to basically anything. Yeah, technically, with the right technology, we can do AMAZING things. With the right technology we can transcend time and space (literally, not just in the mind). But that hasn't happened. Maybe my mind is limited but so be it. It was a personal annoyance. ::

look back a few years and see what we were unable to do and can do today

tell someone from the 18th century that humans are going to be able to talk to people on the other side of the planet through mobile phones, or receive images from mars through waves

or for a current example that few people know about
look for "hyper sonic sound"
it exists, yet it seems like magic

Also, for the record, I never did and almost positively never will see Daredevil.

not talking about the movie
talking about how matt murdock recognizes his surroundings
he uses his over developped sense of hearing in the same way as i suppose this sonar technology is working

(and it is actually rendered very well in the movie)

 

[ThunderPants]

(@ vouchers) haha will do, thanks for the offer.

(@sonar)

Spoiler: The Dark Knight

Well how I understood it was, somehow (this is possibly a big "somehow"), Bruce managed to get the sonar technology into just about every person in the city's mobile phone (Lucious was unaware of this, earlier in the film he questioned Bruce about some changes to the 'RND program funds' or something like that, and Bruce's response was 'I would like to keep that close to my chest', of course later on when Lucious found out the intentions behind it, he was against the idea (sacrificing the privacy of millions to protect them).

With the sonar technology in the phones, I assume that each phone sends out sonar signals and then each individual sonar reading is combined into a sum total sonar image, which is the resultant mapping of the entire city. I believe that Bruce traces just about any conversation in the city (that occurs over phone). I say this because Bruce did not attempt to trace The Joker until he heard him speaking on the loudspeaker to the ships passengers (hearing the Joker's message was what prompted him to attempt to search for 'location of the message' and was how he located The Joker... Possibly because The Joker was using a phone to transmit his message to the ships. A bit far fetched I guess, but I am generally willing to suspend disbelief when a movie does not try to pass it self off as supremely believable.

As can be seen. Good and bad are not simple or clear cut ideas, and this was one of the key ideas of the movie I think.

Spoiler: The Dark Knight

I believe the way Batman did it was using the microphone part of each cell phone. I dont think he *put* something in each phone. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't figure any other way it could be done.

Fantastic movie. Not only did they stay true to the comics, the movie as a whole was extremely well done.

 

[Rated E]

See, I think personally I'm all about crazy non-realistic technology if it's in a fantasy setting. For instance in Dune they are able to time travel but it isn't a modern-day setting. Applying crazy technology to right now is what bugs me. It seems all the more ridiculous then. Again, ::

Gotham City isn't a real city.

random comment :
i really liked "what the policeman should have done 10 minutes ago" on the boat

This was a highlight of the movie for me, so unexpected.

 

[wizekrak]

I thought it was great, though the social experiment scene felt a little heavy handed, and the scene following it in the building felt a little hollow, as if it was added as a reason to use the crazy visuals. But aside from those two minor points it was a very strong film. The impromptu fight between a guy in a Joker costume and his henchmen and a guy dressed as Batman before the movie began was almost as entertaining.

Loved Heath Ledger's Joker.

 

[L2R]

damn, imax sold out till thursday.

oh well, can't complain with $10 tickets (normally $25)

 

[vibr8tor]

I like to cause ripples. Just on IMDB though. Plus, it's pretty much a given that this is a 10 star movie in my mind.

how does that "cause ripples?" do you think that people on IMDB know when you personally see the movie, or care that much about your predicted opinion? i'm not trying to be a jackass; i just don't understand why anyone wouldn't actually wait to see a movie before rating it. especially on a board like that, where one opinion is a tiny drop in a giant bucket. if you had that much confidence in the movie, you would have waited to see it. by rating it prematurely, and then bragging about it, you pretty much lose all credibility, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[vibr8tor]

~anyhow~ I saw the movie last night. i'm in the minority, but i agree with the few people here who were a little disappointed. i got bored, and think a lot of the scenes could have been shortened without losing any momentum. the batman voice bugged the crap out of me, Maggie Gyllenhaal's character annoyed me, and some of the action scenes were almost too busy. but that's usually my complaint about action movies; when there's that much going on at once, i really have a hard time following what is supposed to be occurring. i'm guessing that's my problem and not the movies, based on the cash this thing is pulling in.

i have nothing bad whatsoever to say about the joker, however. he definitely held my attention, and captured the role better than anyone else would have been capable of doing.

 

[vibr8tor]

oh, and if i had rated it on IMDB before seeing it, i probably would have given it 8.5 stars. and 7 stars after the actual viewing. 8)

 

[steinanwine]

^ vibr8tor, so glad AmorRoark and myself are not the only ones who were a bit disappointed with the film. In fact, it is extremely refreshing to hear that not everyone is assuming that it is the best film ever made.

 

[alasdairm]

by rating it prematurely, and then bragging about it, you pretty much lose all credibility, as far as I'm concerned.

i have to agree.

alasdair

 

[ego_loss]

^ vibr8tor, so glad AmorRoark and myself are not the only ones who were a bit disappointed with the film. In fact, it is extremely refreshing to hear that not everyone is assuming that it is the best film ever made.

Usually when people make a blanket statement like best/worst movie ever, chances are that person hasn't really experienced some of the truly great or totally awful films.

For what it's worth, I enjoyed the movie... as far as super hero or comic book movies go, it was one of the best. Heath Ledger really did steal the show. I disagree with your earlier statements that Harvey Dent wasn't a very worthwhile villain. Axl was right on with his assessment of the character. While it was a very enjoyable film, it does seem to be pretty over-hyped as well. Bale turned in an even weaker performance than he did in "Begins", and Michael Kanes cockney accent was a distraction. The action scenes were too jumpy, and not as realistic as they could have been. Another reviewer suggested that the producers should have gotten the same choreographers that did the Bourne movie fight sequences. THOSE were impressive fights.

Regarding all the fanboys who decided weeks before the movie even came out that it was the best thing ever to hit the big screen, they need to take a few deep breaths and a cold shower... whatever helps them put their man-crush on Bale or Ledger behind them.

 

[His Name Is Frank]

how does that "cause ripples?" do you think that people on IMDB know when you personally see the movie, or care that much about your predicted opinion? i'm not trying to be a jackass; i just don't understand why anyone wouldn't actually wait to see a movie before rating it. especially on a board like that, where one opinion is a tiny drop in a giant bucket. if you had that much confidence in the movie, you would have waited to see it. by rating it prematurely, and then bragging about it, you pretty much lose all credibility, as far as I'm concerned.

Wow.

It's a movie internet site, not the presidental election. Why does it bother you so much that you've actually responded several times about it? I've actually made the same comment about people prematurely rating movies here, (see Pineapple Express thread) but it doesn't bother me to the point where I would actully try to get in the person's heads that are doing it.

And as far as this movie cred you mention, when did I ever claim to have any? I'm just a nigga who loves movies.

 

[vibr8tor]

IMDB is a respected movie database. Bluelight F&T is not.

and you don't gain credibility by claiming it; it's something ya earn. just saying...

(as far as people rating movies here prematurely, i feel the same way, and a lot of others do as well)

 

[*Love*Lite*]

jokers drug of choice would be Cocaine I believe.

Plus he could use his cards to cut up the lines

For a psychedelic he would probably choose something a bit darker so Id say shrooms.

**oh yes and I saw the movie last week and LOVED it!
so sad about heath... definite loss of talent and eye candy

 

[-Guido-]

IMDB is a respected movie database. Bluelight F&T is not.

jokers drug of choice would be Cocaine I believe.

Plus he could use his cards to cut up the lines

I just LOL'd.

 

[alasdairm]

let's not drag this off-topic. hisnameisfrank, you are as entitled to say that you rate movies you haven't even seen yet to cause ripples as vibby and i are to tell you we think it's lame and pointless.

let's just not do it here - in this awesome batman thread.

alasdair

 

[-Guido-]

I saw this movie the other day and I was blown away. It was amazing. What was even more amazing was the number of fanboys in theater with joker make up on.

 

[AmorRoark]

Gotham City isn't a real city.

Yeah, it's Chicago. 8)

They did nothing to make it look like a fantasy setting. Everything was realistic. I honestly, personally, need a little alteration for it not to just seem like a real city. Especially since they travelled to real places such as Tokyo.

I will reiterate, it's a personal thing I have with movies like this. There's nothing flawed or wrong with it really, I just prefer when the fantasy technology is linear with a legitimate fantasy setting.

There's nothing to argue here.