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film: No Country For Old Men (Coen Brothers) (Trailer incl)
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Finder said:
imo, i thought that the movie could have been so much better IF THEY HAD drawn out some of the scenes. the movie was great and i give it five stars. my only qualm was that there was much i would have liked to seen. i was genuinely disheartened when SPOILER ALERT====
=======they cut from james brolin meeting the lady by the pool, to him dead on the hotel floor when tommy lee jones shows up.
and i thought there were several parts where they should have shown MORE!
Benefit
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Not a masterpiece, but one of the better films of 2007.
This film is filled with the same hard edged cynicism that distinguished Kubrick and Peckinpah as masters of postmodern cinematic angst. Despite the sophomoric philosophizing on determinism, fate and chance (a psychopath who kills people based on a coin flip is really not that deep maaan) the movie gives us a lot to digest. The beautiful cinematography is consciously devoid of stylization, and the barren, sweeping landscapes evoke the bleached morality of the film's world and help to visually strip human nature down to its elemental layers, which is where the movie wants to take us.
The acting is good but not remarkable, except for Javier Bardem who steals the show with his unstoppable evil guy routine. Tommy Lee Jones stinks it up a bit and I agree that his character was not as fleshed out or interesting as it should have been. Josh Brolin is just right as the understated sort-of-anti-hero. For those of you lamenting the dialogue, much of it was lifted straight from the novel. Novel dialogue and movie dialogue are very different creatures, novel dialogue being primarily intended to be read in your head. That is why the opening and closing monologues by Tommy Lee Jones, aside from any delivery problems, were a little bit hard to follow. I loved the way they abruptly cut to black when Jones finishes talking about his dream. It worked really, really well though I think it sucked the air out of some of the stupider people in the audience.
Can't harp on the dialogue too much anyway, with gems like this:
Anton Chigurh: Call it.
Attendant: Call it?
Anton Chigurh: Yes.
Attendant: For what?
Anton Chigurh: Just call it.
Attendant: Well, we need to know what we're calling it for here.
Anton Chigurh: You need to call it. I can't call it for you. It wouldn't be fair.
Attendant: I didn't put nothin' up.
Anton Chigurh: Yes, you did. You've been putting it up your whole life you just didn't know it. You know what date is on this coin?
Attendant: No.
Anton Chigurh: 1958. It's been traveling twenty-two years to get here. And now it's here. And it's either heads or tails. And you have to say. Call it.
Attendant: Look, I need to know what I stand to win.
Anton Chigurh: Everything.
Attendant: How's that?
Anton Chigurh: You stand to win everything. Call it.
Attendant: Alright. Heads then.
[Chigurh removes his hand, revealing the coin is heads]
Anton Chigurh: Well done.
[the gas station attendant nervously takes the quarter]
Anton Chigurh: Don't put it in your pocket, sir. Don't put it in your pocket. It's your lucky quarter.
Attendant: Where do you want me to put it?
Anton Chigurh: Anywhere not in your pocket. Where it'll get mixed in with the others and become just a coin. Which it is.
I'm so glad there are people like the Coens making films in today's Hollywood.
This film is filled with the same hard edged cynicism that distinguished Kubrick and Peckinpah as masters of postmodern cinematic angst. Despite the sophomoric philosophizing on determinism, fate and chance (a psychopath who kills people based on a coin flip is really not that deep maaan) the movie gives us a lot to digest. The beautiful cinematography is consciously devoid of stylization, and the barren, sweeping landscapes evoke the bleached morality of the film's world and help to visually strip human nature down to its elemental layers, which is where the movie wants to take us.
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The acting is good but not remarkable, except for Javier Bardem who steals the show with his unstoppable evil guy routine. Tommy Lee Jones stinks it up a bit and I agree that his character was not as fleshed out or interesting as it should have been. Josh Brolin is just right as the understated sort-of-anti-hero. For those of you lamenting the dialogue, much of it was lifted straight from the novel. Novel dialogue and movie dialogue are very different creatures, novel dialogue being primarily intended to be read in your head. That is why the opening and closing monologues by Tommy Lee Jones, aside from any delivery problems, were a little bit hard to follow. I loved the way they abruptly cut to black when Jones finishes talking about his dream. It worked really, really well though I think it sucked the air out of some of the stupider people in the audience.
Can't harp on the dialogue too much anyway, with gems like this:
Anton Chigurh: Call it.
Attendant: Call it?
Anton Chigurh: Yes.
Attendant: For what?
Anton Chigurh: Just call it.
Attendant: Well, we need to know what we're calling it for here.
Anton Chigurh: You need to call it. I can't call it for you. It wouldn't be fair.
Attendant: I didn't put nothin' up.
Anton Chigurh: Yes, you did. You've been putting it up your whole life you just didn't know it. You know what date is on this coin?
Attendant: No.
Anton Chigurh: 1958. It's been traveling twenty-two years to get here. And now it's here. And it's either heads or tails. And you have to say. Call it.
Attendant: Look, I need to know what I stand to win.
Anton Chigurh: Everything.
Attendant: How's that?
Anton Chigurh: You stand to win everything. Call it.
Attendant: Alright. Heads then.
[Chigurh removes his hand, revealing the coin is heads]
Anton Chigurh: Well done.
[the gas station attendant nervously takes the quarter]
Anton Chigurh: Don't put it in your pocket, sir. Don't put it in your pocket. It's your lucky quarter.
Attendant: Where do you want me to put it?
Anton Chigurh: Anywhere not in your pocket. Where it'll get mixed in with the others and become just a coin. Which it is.
I'm so glad there are people like the Coens making films in today's Hollywood.
AmorRoark
Bluelight Crew
Is it just me or does anyone else have the sneaking suspicion that benefit is actually Bob Mondello? I also wonder if LOVELIFE is actually Anthony Lane. :D
finally saw this, first day back in aus.
beautifully shot, actually stunningly beautiful. great dialogue and acting. nice pace.
but
i have no shame in saying that i don't get it. not yet at least. i just walked out of the cinema 20 minutes ago and my head is still swimming.
currently 3.5/5 but that is pending.
beautifully shot, actually stunningly beautiful. great dialogue and acting. nice pace.
but
i have no shame in saying that i don't get it. not yet at least. i just walked out of the cinema 20 minutes ago and my head is still swimming.
currently 3.5/5 but that is pending.
CloudyHazeD
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caught this last night.....
thought it was a great film....one of the best i've seen in some time. great dialog....great cinematography
maybe I was too tired and missed something , but I did not get the ending at all
have to re-watch it I suppose.
thought it was a great film....one of the best i've seen in some time. great dialog....great cinematography
maybe I was too tired and missed something , but I did not get the ending at all
have to re-watch it I suppose.
doesntmatter
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definitely the best film i've seen in a long time.
it was refreshing to me.
it was refreshing to me.
ego_loss
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Just finished it, and the first thing I gotta say is everyone should get off Tommy Lee Jones' jock.
Every bit of dialogue he spoke was essential to the over all theme of the film. So there may not have been the typical resolutions that we've come to expect from the typical Hollywood movie, but it wasn't about resolutions. It was about the never ending theme of good vs evil... or this guy vs that guy... The last act was pretty much entirely made up of old people discussing these very themes.
I'm certainly going to watch it at least one or two more times before I make a "movie of the year" call... not to mention I have to go see a lot of the other big Oscar contenders, but I can say right now that the Coen's made a very solid movie with their trademark knack for dialogue and photography that come together to make a VERY solid movie... Oscar or no.
Regarding the character of Anton, it was great to see another ba-dass on screen with such inhuman coldness, but I disagree with the camp that think he is the newest, greatest anti-hero in cinema. Yeah, he was scary, but he was also pretty one dimensional.
In closing, I'm going to reserve my "Best Movie of the Year" designation until I see "There Will Be Blood".
Every bit of dialogue he spoke was essential to the over all theme of the film. So there may not have been the typical resolutions that we've come to expect from the typical Hollywood movie, but it wasn't about resolutions. It was about the never ending theme of good vs evil... or this guy vs that guy... The last act was pretty much entirely made up of old people discussing these very themes.
I'm certainly going to watch it at least one or two more times before I make a "movie of the year" call... not to mention I have to go see a lot of the other big Oscar contenders, but I can say right now that the Coen's made a very solid movie with their trademark knack for dialogue and photography that come together to make a VERY solid movie... Oscar or no.
Regarding the character of Anton, it was great to see another ba-dass on screen with such inhuman coldness, but I disagree with the camp that think he is the newest, greatest anti-hero in cinema. Yeah, he was scary, but he was also pretty one dimensional.
In closing, I'm going to reserve my "Best Movie of the Year" designation until I see "There Will Be Blood".
doesntmatter
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^^^
good luck. both are great films.
i can say for certain that daniel day-lewis deserves best actor.
i'm actually surprised by some of the responses here as i thought "no country" would have been easier to swallow than "there will be blood" for most movie goers. however yall aren't "most movie goers" so i guess thats to be expected.
i agree with the inhuman description of anton, but i don't think he was supposed to be "anti" anything. he was death. neither good nor evil. just there, and inescapable.
good luck. both are great films.
i can say for certain that daniel day-lewis deserves best actor.
i'm actually surprised by some of the responses here as i thought "no country" would have been easier to swallow than "there will be blood" for most movie goers. however yall aren't "most movie goers" so i guess thats to be expected.
i agree with the inhuman description of anton, but i don't think he was supposed to be "anti" anything. he was death. neither good nor evil. just there, and inescapable.
thugpassion
Bluelighter
No country for old men
This movie is awesome. I scored a really good bootleg copie and have watched it four times already. I missed quite afew things the first time I watched it(maybe because I was high).
Have any of you guys seen it, and what did you think?
This movie is awesome. I scored a really good bootleg copie and have watched it four times already. I missed quite afew things the first time I watched it(maybe because I was high).
Have any of you guys seen it, and what did you think?
dr-ripple
Bluelighter
yeah but not as I expected . . still I like that old guy.
His Name Is Frank
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The Coen Brothers have lost nothing. This film,while not fast paced,was very interesting and character driven. Josh Brolin and Tommy Lee Jones were great. Javier Bardem's portrayal of Anton Chigurh was so powerful,it was too big for one movie. I would love to see the Coen Brothers make another movie with Javier and have Anton Chigurh be the main character. I will always love the Coen Brothers for not making CGI-filled,cliche' cookie-cutter Hollywood films. Even when they miss,the end result is still better than anything Michael Bay will ever put out. They swept the Oscars with this magic you've claimed they've lost. The day they try and go the route of trying to create the summer blockbuster of the summer is the day they will have lost their magic.
nominated for 8, won 4 is impressive but it's hardly a sweep.HisNameIsFrank said:
also, the day 'they won the oscars' has much value as currency in a discussion of movies will be a pretty sad day...
i really enjoyed this movie but i agree with s... (which, if you've spent any time in here you will know is pretty rare
). i can think of many coen brothers which had the magic this movie does not.'there will be blood' made this movie look pretty commonplace. but, hey, we're discussing art and mileage always varies.
alasdair
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^maybe it's got something to do with being an adaptation...
their next endeavour, "burn after reading" is an original screenplay, so i'd imagine it would be a better indicator of their magic than this, ladykillers or intolerable cruelty, which were all adaptations.
their next endeavour, "burn after reading" is an original screenplay, so i'd imagine it would be a better indicator of their magic than this, ladykillers or intolerable cruelty, which were all adaptations.
Bardeaux
Bluelight Crew
I gave it 4 stars as well. It kind of dropped off at the end. But it was a visually beautiul film
MynameisnotDeja
Bluelight Crew
Im not going to read through the whole thread til after, but Im watching it this weekend and cant wait, Ive been a huge Coen brothers fan for a long time.
waylost
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Bardo5 said:
Yea for some reason i liked tommy lee jones in this, even though ppl hated the ending i like his little speech. Was very serene or something.
BUT ... the movie TROY was the BUSINESS.
boy "Achailles , hes the biggest man I have ever seen, i would not like to fight him"
Achilles "That is why no one will remember your name"
I don' care what anyone says, what a fucking legend.