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Film: Jarhead

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psychetool

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Wow. I never thought a movie about war in Iraq could be so boring. Even with the cast and the great direction I couldn't get over how SLOW the fucking movie went! It was like pulling teeth! Wow, life out in the desert.... Amazing....

I literally wanted to walk out but I was with friends, hardly any of them seemed to enjoy it either. It just seemed so lacking in plot and character developement, as I fucking hated most of these jarhead assholes and tried to go to sleep multiple times during the movie.

So... What did you guys think ?
 
It was my understanding that it wasn't to be about the war but more of a character study. Is that accurate?
 
If you're expecting a shoot 'em up war movie like Black Hawk Down, you're going to be disappointed. There are pretty much no action scenes. Describing the movie as a 'character study' sounds right, since the movie is basically an interpretation of the Gulf War through Gyllenhal's character and how the war changes him as he lives through it.

There are definitely some slow parts, as the first poster stated, but I think if you go into the movie not expecting a lot of action, it's an interesting movie. It really tries to show a realistic view of war from a soldier's perspective by focusing on the small details, i.e. what he has to deal with on a daily basis.
 
I've yet to see it, but I'm going to go some time this week. Sam Mendes hasn't disappointed yet, Jake Gyllenhaal's one of my favorites, and the trailers looked awesome.

From what I've heard it is a very cerebral type of movie; some people might call it boring. But this is apparently a conscious stylistic decision; Melville does this a lot, intentionally makes the writing boring in order to reflect reality. Life on a whaling boat is pretty boring. Life in the dessert is boring. But a lack of action doesn't mean you can't appreciate the movie in a more sophisticated way.

Whether I will enjoy it remains to be seen.
 
I know it's completely ridiculous, but I've seen so many commercials for this fucking movie I have no desire to see it.
 
Here's what A.O. Scott had to say about it:

"Mr. Swofford's book has earned a place alongside the classics of military literature, but Mr. Mendes's film is more like a footnote - a minor movie about a minor war, and a film that feels, at the moment, remarkably irrelevant."

Although I haven't seen the movie, the book is very good.
 
posner said:
Really? Look how well Titanic did.


off topic ,the definition of a Jarhead. ?? someone once told me ,it was the shape of the stereotypical marine head and the fact that they uncrew the lid, take out your brain and insert "Marine". IE having a "JARHEAD"

ebert thought it rocked, i look forward to it ....

Jarhead

BY ROGER EBERT / November 4, 2005

"Jarhead" is a war movie that rises above the war and tells a soldier's story. It tells it with the urgency and pointlessness that all men's stories have, because if something has happened to us, then it is important to us no matter how indifferent the world may be.

"Four days, four hours, one minute. That was my war," the Marine sniper Tony Swofford tells us. "I never shot my rifle."

The movie is uncanny in its effect. It contains no heroism, little action, no easy laughs. It is about men who are exhausted, bored, lonely, trained to the point of obsession and given no opportunity to use their training. The most dramatic scene in the movie comes when Swofford has an enemy officer in the crosshairs of his gunsight and is forbidden to fire because his shot may give advance warning of an air strike.

His spotter, Troy, goes berserk: "Let him take the shot!" Let him, that is, kill one enemy as his payback for the hell of basic training, the limbo of the desert, the sand and heat, the torture of months of waiting, the sight of a highway traffic jam made of burned vehicles and crisp charred corpses. Let him take the shot to erase for a second the cloud of oil droplets he lives in, the absence of the sun, the horizon lined with the plumes of burning oil wells. Let him take the ###### shot.

The movie is based on the best-selling 2003 memoir Jarhead by Anthony Swofford, who served in the first Gulf War. It is unlike most war movies in that it focuses entirely on the personal experience of a young man caught up in the military process. At one point, Swofford (Jake Gyllenhaal) is being interviewed by a network newswoman who asks him why he serves. He has already given two or three routine answers. She persists, and finally he looks in the camera and says: "I'm 20 years old, and I was dumb enough to sign a contract."

His best friend is his spotter, Troy (Peter Sarsgaard). Their small unit of scout-snipers has been led through training by Staff Sgt. Sykes (Jamie Foxx), who knows why he serves: He loves his job. Others in the group include borderline psychos and screw-ups but mostly just average young Americans who have decided the only thing worse than fighting a war is waiting to fight one -- in the desert, when the temperature is 112 and it would be great for the TV cameras if they played a football game while wearing their anti-gas suits.

"Jarhead" is a story like Robert Graves' Goodbye to All That, in the way it sees the big picture entirely in terms of the small details. Sykes briefs them about Saddam Hussein's invasion of the Kuwait oil fields, but says their immediate task is to guard the oil of "our friends, the Sauds." This they do by killing time. The narration includes one passage that sounds lifted straight from the book, in which Swofford lists the ways they get through the days: They train, they sleep, they watch TV and videos, they get in pointless fights, they read letters from home and write letters to home, and mostly they masturbate.

These are not the colorful dogfaces of World War II movies with their poker games, or the druggies in "Apocalypse Now." They have no wisecracks, we see no drugs, they get drunk when they can, and there is a Wall of Shame plastered with the photos of the girls back home who have dumped them. They go on patrols in the desert, looking for nothing in the middle of nowhere, and their moment of greatest tension comes when they meet eight Arabs with five camels. They sense a trap. Their fingers are on their triggers. They are in formation for action. Swofford and one of the Arabs meet on neutral ground. He comes back with his report: "Somebody shot three of their camels."

In a war like this, the ground soldier has been made obsolete by air power. Territory that took three months to occupy in World War I and three weeks in Vietnam now takes 10 minutes. Sykes warns them to expect 70,000 casualties in the first days of the war, but as we recall, the Iraqis caved in and the war was over. Now we are involved in a war that does require soldiers on the ground, against an enemy that no longer helpfully wears uniforms. Yet many of its frustrations are the same, and I am reminded of the documentary "Gunner Palace," about an Army field artillery division that is headquartered in the ruins of a palace once occupied by Saddam's son, Uday. They are brave, they are skilled, and death comes unexpectedly from invisible foes in the midst of routine.

"Jarhead" was directed by Sam Mendes ("American Beauty"), and it is the other side of the coin of David O. Russell's "Three Kings," also about the Gulf War. If Russell had Catch-22 as his guide, it is instructive that the book Swofford is reading is The Outsider by Camus. The movie captures the tone of Camus' narrator, who knows what has happened but not why, nor what it means to him, nor why it happens to him. Against this existential void, the men of the sniper unit shore up friendships and rituals. Their sergeant is a hard-ass, not because he is pathological but because he wants to prepare them to save their lives. They are ready. They have been trained into a frenzy of readiness, and all they find on every side, beautifully visualized by the film, is a vastness -- first sand, then sand covered with a black rain, then skies red with unchanging flames 24 hours a day.

It is not often that a movie catches exactly what it was like to be this person in this place at this time, but "Jarhead" does. They say a story can be defined by how its characters change. For the rest of his life, Swofford tells us, whether he holds it or not, his rifle will always be a part of his body. It wasn't like that when the story began.
 
Yeah, it really was a character study. Too bad the characters were all jarhead assholes. It just demonstrates what kind of people we have working over there and makes me even more pissed. I mean, if you want to watch a bunch of pissed off marines clean toilets and patrol an empty desert all while fighting each other - then this might be your kind of movie. If you actually want to enjoy knowing your character and go into the movie for a 'good time' then find something else, this movie while it focused mainly on the soldiers was incredibly hard to watch because of how much I simply detested these morons after seeing how they were presented in the movie. Unlikable characters, slow plot, just not the movie for me...

I was expecting a lot more from Sam Mendes, J. Foxx, and Jake Gyllenhaal, this movie just seemed like a letdown after seeing American Beauty. One of my favorite movies ever made.
 
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Not a Roger Ebert fan? I agree with him about 80% of the time, but I understand why some people don't like him, given some of his questionable calls as of late. Sometimes it seems like he's sucking up to the Hollywood establishment. He's still better than most mainstream critics, imo.
 
I don't know what you mean by mainstream. But there are infinitely better reviewers (past and present) than Roger "Fuckin Four Stars" Ebert.
 
i liked it... maybe if you are a war movie freak it doesn't meet expectations, but for me, this was a satisfying and thought-provoking film. i liked how you got a sense of what it was really like for these guys, and how swafford (jake g) was this anti-hero or non-hero. i was surprised at how much it related back to vietnam movies and experiences, like when they showed the marines apocalypse now (creepy how they were cheering so aggressively) and deer hunter was referenced.
i was reading reviews of this on yahoo movies, and all the former marines who reviewed it (and there were quite a few) said that it was quite accurate and moving for them.
also, there is a lot of yummy muscular man candy in this movie... never hurts in my book ;)
 
I guess why I enjoyed this movie so much is that the script/acting made a point of showing flawed characters. Why are you here? I sold drugs therefore...my father was a vet and destroyed our family so...I have nothing really but to go into the marines.

It also made fun of masculine things/marines (the field fuck) or the prevailing homophobia or lack of. Or the failure of people who think they are tough shit when in fact they are really human (when their girlfriends tell to them to stuff it
and they fall apart).

I think I had more respect for Foxx/Cooper's portrayl of the career marine (where Foxx showed that he was afraid). The trailer doesn't do the "Ooorah" scene justice. Jake's character doesn't really understand the love for the core or maybe he does and refuses to buy into the hysteria.

Anyways one of the best films of the year. A must see for any American. Or hopefully. :)
 
posner said:
Dude. Quoting Roger Ebert? Not good, man. Not good.

sorry i didnt know you felt you were above him, how about James Berardinelli



Every war is different. Every war is the same." So says the voiceover narration in the closing moments of Sam Mendes' Jarhead. I might add: Every war movie is different. Every war movie is the same. This is Mendes' Gulf War answer to Apocalypse Now - he announces as much by connecting the two in an early scene showing marines whipped into a frenzy while watching the helicopter attack sequence from Francis Ford Coppola's 1979 film. Jarhead is about how the experience of being in the military fundamentally changes an individual. In this case, the focus isn't about the madness of slaughter in the jungle, but the madness of inaction in the desert.

For those who don't remember the Gulf War (or who weren't old enough to watch in unfold in real time on television), here's a brief recap. The conflict started in August 1990, when Iraqi forces invaded Kuwait, igniting worldwide protests. As diplomatic negotiations stagnated, United Nations troops (primarily from the United States) massed in Saudi Arabia. By mid-January 1991, more than 500,000 U.S. men and women were in the Middle East, and "Operation Desert Shield" became "Operation Desert Storm." More than a month of brutal pounding from the air decimated the Iraqi forces. The ground war, launched on February 23, lasted only four days (or, to be precise: four days, four hours, one minute). A ceasefire was called on February 27, and Iraq accepted terms on March 3.

Jarhead shows these events not from the perspective of a civilian, war correspondent, or diplomat, but from that of a jarhead (jargon for marine) sniper who was supposed to be on the front line of the ground conflict - except there was no front line. The air attack so devastated the Iraqi army that no one was left to wage an effective battle. So when the marines went in, they were left with mop-up duty. Many of these men, despite being trained as killing machines, left without firing a shot. (As one puts it: "Are we ever going to get to kill anyone?") Based on the memoirs of Anthony Swofford, Jarhead takes viewers into the barracks and tents of a group of marines who view the conflict as a phantom war - a tease that never offers release.

The film opens at Camp Pendleton in 1989 - a year before Kuwait became the lead story of every nightly news program. There, Anthony Swofford (Jake Gyllenhaal) is undergoing a brutal basic training regimen under the tutelage of an officer who recalls R. Lee Ermy's character from 1987's Full Metal Jacket. A year later, Swoff is enrolled in sniper training along with his spotter, Troy (Peter Sarsgaard), who would become his closest friend. Their commander, Sergeant Siek (Jamie Foxx), is the kind of hard-but-fair solider who shows up in nearly every war movie. In late 1990, Swoff's unit is sent to Iraq, where they spend months drilling and finding ways to kill time, waiting for the word to be given for the sword of American military might to fall. But the longer the finger is on the trigger without firing the weapon, the greater the stress becomes.

Mendes (American Beauty, Road to Perdition) invests a great deal of energy into developing the battleground as an alien environment. Using the sands of Mexico as a stand-in, Jarhead shows how different desert warfare is from conventional conflict. We see men training while wearing bulky anti-contamination suits in 100+ degree heat. Water must be downed in such quantities that vomiting sometimes occurs. Finding ways to blow off steam leads to risky behavior, the punishment for which can be the dreaded latrine duty. (If you thought it was bad in Platoon, wait until you see it here…) The Kuwaiti desert comes alive in this film, forming its own supporting character. There are some wonderful twilight and nighttime shots that appear almost to have taken place on a different planet. Cinematographer Roger Deakins uses handheld cameras effectively (but not to motion sickness inducing excess). And, to strengthen the connection to Apocalypse Now, Mendes has employed Walter Murch, who edited the earlier film.

It's unsurprising that Jarhead attains an impressive level of verisimilitude. Although The USMC did not officially participate in the filming, Mendes hired an army of ex-marine advisors who kept things real and avoided caricatures. This is not a strongly political or anti-war film (certainly compared to pictures like Apocalypse Now or Platoon). It's about the characters and how they react to their circumstances. They see things within the microcosm of their tents. What "it all means," whether the attack is justified, and whether the troops should have pushed all the way to Baghdad are questions for other movies with other agendas
Given the spotlight, Jake Gyllenhaal seizes the opportunity with a performance that will generate Oscar buzz. His portrayal of Swoff is credible and complex. Nothing in his development seems jarring or poorly motivated. Peter Sarsgaard earns points for stepping out of the minor rut into which he had fallen. Jaime Foxx makes a stock character more interesting that he might ordinarily be. Chris Cooper has a small part as Lt. Col. Kazinski, and unsurprisingly steals the scene. And Dennis Haysbert shows up a couple of times as a major. His first appearance - the latrine scene - is memorable.

Like many war movies, Jarhead comes complete with a voiceover narrative. Despite my general disapproval of this as a cinematic device (it's too often used as a crutch), it succeeds for the most part. This is, after all, a memoir, and there are times when it's helpful to provide viewers with information in a short-hand manner that would be cumbersome to present in a traditional way. Apparently, Mendes worked long and hard on the voiceovers - they are not distractions and they do not pull the viewer "out of the moment."

Jarhead is compelling in the way it presents a new facet of a genre that some would argue was mined out long ago. Yet, as much as the film contains the familiar elements of war movies, the thrust is different. This is about loss, but not the loss of life. Instead, it's about the dissipation of identity. Those who entered the corps and were sent to Kuwait were disconnected from their previous life and all that went with it: wives/girlfriends, friends, jobs, families… But, instead of accomplishing what they were trained to do, they wait, and Godot is nowhere to be found. Portraying these personality transformations is where Jarhead excels, and the reason why this isn't just another of the growing number of dramas about the Gulf War.


© 2005 James Berardinelli

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