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here&there, if you still read bluelight, i'm sure you'll be interested (i searched for references to this film, and all that i could find was posted by here&there in the v&pa forum! :)).

It is a credit to Godard's talent, intelligence, and vision, that the film is so oddly relevant some forty years after it was made. And to think, computers in his day existed only on such a basic level, that he could even begin to see the potential social and political outcomes of the technology. Of course, the film is not an accurate representation of our society (even if you transplant the Alpha-madness from "another galaxy" back to earth), but the Orwellian themes of a controlled state, is somewhat foreboding, and threads of it are easily identifiable in our seemingly growing conservatism.

France, whilst being at the forefront of a liberal society, seems even to be turning back, with recent news of the outlawing of Muslim head-scarves at high schools - the world is turning into a horrible cross between Godard's vision and the current conservative America.

From the beginning, "Ivan Johnson" (who we later learn to be Lemmy Caution, a secret agent sent to spy on Alphaville from "the Outlands") is at odds with the technological dependant society, with his old-fashioned yet ubiquitous camera, and obvious distaste for the planet's automated systems. This is an absurd yet strangely "real" world, and Johnson's caution towards it are echoed (hopefully, they certainly were with mine) by our own responses to what we are seeing - the computer, Alpha-60, which "runs" the entire city/planet is one based on logic - when interrogating Caution it is caught out by his response with poetry, a form of expression which - though full of depth and meaning - is illogical at its very base level, and therefore entirely impossible for the machine to interpret.

It is this contrast - between the reality of our natural humanist urges and responses and the disturbing, detached and cold rationality and logic from the computer - that gives the film its resonance. Godard's direction is as perfect as ever: refusing to shoot the film as he typically would, he instead gives the film a detached feeling, taking us away from the "heart" of the action, instead preferring to have us merely witness the horrible workings of the world.

Also, though I would presume that the odds of Kylie Minogue or her "people" would be so literate, I couldn't help but notice Lemmy's response to Natasha's request for help at the end of the film - "Impossible, Princess". Could it be that this is where Kylie's album title came from, or am I being perhaps a little too optimistic?

As some have pointed out, the performances in this film are somewhat less interesting than one might expect from a Godard film (though it is, of course, hard to figure whether to blame the director or the actors themselves for this folly), but this is really the only way to fault the film. Godard's low-budget use of the modern Paris is inspired, really pushing home his contention that as scary as this future world is, it's not nearly as scary as the fact that they were practically already living it. If nothing else, this film at least proves Godard's genius, through its brilliant allegorical concepts and foresight.
 
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I tried to watch this movie while really stoned. It didn't work. I had to start over several times and then gave up. But i'm sure it's great with a clear mind :)
 
^^^ maybe :)

it's probably worth mentioning that this film isn't for everyone - imdb comments seem split, some adore it, some think it's the biggest piece of shit ever made. obviously you know what i think.

anyone else seen it? nyashin, you should check it out again :)
 
I have watched it. Its been a couple of years though.
I thought it was interesting when I saw it. I remember how it didn't make sense. It jumped around a lot? It seemed really relevant to Lynch at the time.
Or comparable to. I watched Fahrenheit 451 recently (more interesting for me)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060390/ (1966 version) and thought it was very similar. I can't be more specifc because that would be pretty involving.
 
Godard rules.

Unfortunately, it's been a long time since I've seen this, so I'm due for a reviewing.

From what I can recall, I liked the script and actually thought parts of it were rather humorous. It is remarkably unlike any other Sc-Fi film in that it doesn't really try to be a visually stunning portrayal of the future. Maybe a little sloppy and clustered (definately cheap!), but still full of thought provoking themes and motifs brought on especially through the dialog. I really love the pulp/noir feel coupled with the Brave New World-esque dystopia.

That is all. Off to go rent it again. :D
 
Thanks for bumping this -- we've a video of it and I haven't watched it in ages. Not sure how much I like it. It's hard to see what's going on. Anyone seen his latest work? Read a review and it sounded good. The last stuff I'd seen were abstract newage animations... I think they were from the mid to late 80s.
 
Breathless was so awesome, and what was that other one.. Weekend? Goddard is great. I totally got to check out this film. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
Originally posted by jpgrdnr
Or comparable to. I watched Fahrenheit 451 recently (more interesting for me)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060390/ (1966 version) and thought it was very similar. I can't be more specifc because that would be pretty involving.


it's probably similar to fahrenheit in that it's a science-fiction, and comes from a very leftist perspective (though truffaut moved away, a bit, from that in later years), but otherwise it's quite dissimilar. the set design of fahrenheit is absolutely insane, whereas godard utilises a grittier kind of aesthetic to ground it more in present-day reality (of the time).

fahrenheit's good though :)


Originally posted by Sn2
From what I can recall, I liked the script and actually thought parts of it were rather humorous. It is remarkably unlike any other Sc-Fi film in that it doesn't really try to be a visually stunning portrayal of the future. Maybe a little sloppy and clustered (definately cheap!), but still full of thought provoking themes and motifs brought on especially through the dialog. I really love the pulp/noir feel coupled with the Brave New World-esque dystopia.


godard has a really cutting wit; he makes you laugh when you know you probably shouldn't. what's best, i think, is that when you're laughing you're also trying to figure out *why* and that's what often makes his films so poignant.

and like i said in my first post, i honestly think the choice to do this low-budget and without any kind of visual extravagance was a conscious one, to illustrate just how much that future world had in common with the world at the time.


Originally posted by fungus44
Anyone seen his latest work? Read a review and it sounded good. The last stuff I'd seen were abstract newage animations... I think they were from the mid to late 80s.


i've seen his new one - notre musique - yeah. really amazing film, but i didn't post a thread because i've only seen it once and probably didn't take it in very well. it's very heavily philosophical and political, but unlike some of his more dogmatic eighties work, it has a beautiful lyricism to it, too. definitely worth seeing (more than once).

Originally posted by Jert
Breathless was so awesome, and what was that other one.. Weekend? Goddard is great. I totally got to check out this film. Thanks for the suggestion.


:D

i'll make godard converts of you all, muahuahuahaha!! ;)

and if you do like godard, see le mepris (contempt). it's pretty easy to follow, and so so beautiful. probably the greatest film ever made, in fact.

there's a weekend thread here, too: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=193160
 
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