Stimulants Fentanyl in Meth

[tryptakid]

Putting a test strip in urine will only register metabolites......if that.

Urine doesn't show the actual chemicals in something it only gives the waste and byproducts of that particular chemical. So if there is fentanyl ( or anything else in something) testing the actual product in front of you is the only way you can tell. It seems logical that the urine would show you what's in the sample but it won't.

I'm not a chemist or biologist so I may be wrong but I don't want people to think that they can test their drugs by putting the strips in urine as opposed to actually testing the actual product.

If I am not mistaken, fentanyl isn't fully metabolized into nortfent, it's excreted in urine unchanged, and the test strips would be testing for it's presence. I have used urine cups to test pills for meth and I have used dipsticks to test for fent.


It doesn't work for all drugs, but for some drugs you can just follow what the tests are designed to detect, and also look at what a drugs metabolism will be.

Apparently based on the post above, the manufacturer also states this.

Also, you are right not to just trust some random person on the Internet who says yes. In this case, however, I knew this to be true. I shouldn't have been lazy and not offered more explanation than I did.

 

[Zentropy]

If your a smoker I met with someone who's pretty tight with a maker. He was showing me when you melt it in a glass pipe and watch it "crack back" the fentanyl will be the last to solidify! Anyways I try not to smoke, guy might be full of it.

Actually, from what I've seen, meth does have a very unique and rapid recrystalization process when heated on glass, I've received cut meth(inactive) once in my 10 years of very very occasional usage, and it took forever to recrystalize.
AFAIK, fentanyl can't be converted into a crystalline form that would even properly mix with meth

 

[got2muchdrugs]

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Extremely blurred vision. This is if there’s a decent amount of fetty and u have no tolerance. Ur gonna feel wired but ur technically nodding off. Meth is hillbilly narcan tho so you’ll be good

can confirm took a dirty 30 couldnt stay awake or breathe easily, so I smoked some meth and still had feeling like I could die any moment but at least I walked around the block 30 times to stay awake. if it wasnt for meth I probably would not be here.

 

[got2muchdrugs]

This is why I wish drugs were legal. So you know what your getting.

yeah man drugs used to be fun now I always worry, is this the pill that will kill me? its not fun thinking like that when ur about to do a drug.

 

[Burnt Offerings]

I’d invest in some fent tests. They’re pretty easy to obtain and it’ll give you peace of mind going forward, you’ll be able to make informed decisions regarding what you plan to ingest

 

[a40oztohell]

Not many ways to test other than just using test strips. Though if your dboy mobs around the city with a sack check to see if he puts blues or dope in the same bag to hold! Ive seen my homie carry strong ass blues in the same baggie as a half-oz shard and it definitely left some dust on that piece.. I was lucky enough to not get any 'infected' pieces.

 

[M4W4PNP]

I just used fentanyl test strips on 3 different batches of meth that was procured from 3 different sources and all 3 came back as positive for Fetti. I don't think there is any being sold here in the Seattle area that doesn't have some % of Fetti ! There's some batches I've had that I will smoke a bowl and then take a little nap.....wake up, smoke a bowl...take a nap, etc., etc.....
So the dilemma for me is that you never know how much Fetti these guys are throwing in with the meth and at what point is it too dangerous to use. I don't know any way to test for potency of the Fetti and if I did, what potency would put me 6 ft. under.
I just don't get how they think putting this downer crap into a drug that people take for its go-fast properties makes them more money. I know quite a few people that have put down the pipe because of this. I'm guessing there are more people quitting that there are getting hooked on Fetti due its use in cutting meth.
Does anyone know what straight Fetti looks like when it cracks back in a bubble? (Assuming that it melts similar to meth?)
The meth was already an ugly step child of the real deal of 5 or 6 years ago.......now they've found a new way to degrade it. It sucks !

 

[jake the mistake]

yeah man drugs used to be fun now I always worry, is this the pill that will kill me? its not fun thinking like that when ur about to do a drug.

I’m glad you knew to do that! My bestfriend was smoking blues one day. He sat up front next to our homie who was driving and I was in the back. So my homie up front takes a hit of fetty and his lips turn blue within a minute or two. He kept nodding off and I kept punching him in increasingly hard in the arm to wake him up. He kept getting bluer so I pulled out some meth and stuffed some in his lip. Then I loaded a bowl and was able to get him a hit before he fully collapsed.

I threw his arm over my shoulder and forced him to walk with me to keep his blood flowing. He couldn’t. We leaned him against the car, and I was two seconds away from pouring a gallon of milk on his head and then the meth fully kicked in and he woke the fuck up! 100% he was dead without.it.

 

[Methamphetanonymous]

Would there be any tell-tale sign (sans test strips/testing) to eyeball whether meth has any fentanyl in it ?? Would it stick to the shards in some anomalous way or cause the powder to appear a certain way after crushing it ? I know it just takes a few grains to die, so it likely could not be spotted without testing, but I thought there may be a way to tell if there was some sort of chemical reaction that occurs or something that could be obvious visually. Thank you.

The test strips can false positive with amphetamines

Unfortunately there wouldn't be visual signs of fentanyl in a quantity that could be lethal. However if you're smoking it the fentanyl will combust before the meth would melt rendering it inert

It's highly unlikely to have fentanyl in meth though, especially now. Fentanyl is much more scarce with the civil war going on between factions of the Sinaloa Cartel. Much less fentanyl is making it into the states... MUCH less. It's contributing to the astounding 30% drop of overdose deaths between last year and this year.

If you do fentanyl test with the right strips, you must dissolve the meth into water and swirl the stick as it would only test the material on the surface

 

[Methamphetanonymous]

I just used fentanyl test strips on 3 different batches of meth that was procured from 3 different sources and all 3 came back as positive for Fetti. I don't think there is any being sold here in the Seattle area that doesn't have some % of Fetti ! There's some batches I've had that I will smoke a bowl and then take a little nap.....wake up, smoke a bowl...take a nap, etc., etc.....

Yes amphetamines will test a false positive for fentanyl. If you smoked enough fentanyl to get sleepy you'd have smoked enough to overdose so its not fentanyl

So the dilemma for me is that you never know how much Fetti these guys are throwing in with the meth and at what point is it too dangerous to use.

Insanely unlikely that anyone is putting fentanyl in meth on purpose. Any amount is likely lethal and dangerous to use

I don't know any way to test for potency of the Fetti and if I did, what potency would put me 6 ft. under.
I just don't get how they think putting this downer crap into a drug that people take for its go-fast properties makes them more money.

That's exactly why no one dose this. Fentanyl is more expensive than meth right now too, so no one is lacing it on purpose. The risk would be accidental cross contamination at the dealer level

I know quite a few people that have put down the pipe because of this. I'm guessing there are more people quitting that there are getting hooked on Fetti due its use in cutting meth.

It's not used to cut meth

Does anyone know what straight Fetti looks like when it cracks back in a bubble? (Assuming that it melts similar to meth?)

Crack back patterns are meaningless, the recrystalization can take many forms based on water content from humidity, residual solvents or reaction byproducts, specks of dust or pocket lint etc. You can't derive any useful information from recrystalization in a pipe

The meth was already an ugly step child of the real deal of 5 or 6 years ago.......now they've found a new way to degrade it. It sucks !

It's the exact same product as 5 or 6 years ago, the cartel have used reductive amination via the same route today as they've done for decades. Some of the pre precursors have changed but not in a meaningful way

In fact street meth has averaged a steady increase in purity on over the last decade