FDA to Tighten Regulation of Extended-Release and Patch Opioid Meds

Totally agree.

phrozen said:
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Its abuse is not that rare amongst pharmaceutical opiate abusers.

As far as selling, on the street, yes it's rare; because it doesn't follow the same journey as illicit drugs, and it's not as oft prescribed as common street pharms are (xanax, perc's, etc).
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I totally agree. I have chronic pain due to fibro and rheum. arthritis and I'm only 36 years old and some people even close friends find out what I'm taking and the first thing the want from me is the oxy, not the patch because they just don't know. I've never shared anything because if something bad happened I couldn't live with myself knowing I was the catalyst! I use my patches and then and only if I'm in a flare up or the barometric pressure drops do I take my pills. Fibromyalgia is a bitch and I've tried everything and for them to come in not knowing my case history and just say sorry "you don't fit this criteria on this sheet of paper" and take my lifesavers away is going to spin me into the crazy place I was in before I found my Dr. who actually listened to me and felt my pain. Now I know what "get your hand outa my pocket" actually means!!!! Drug disposal should be up to the Dr.s who spent a huge part of their lives earning their degrees that hang on their walls and not up to Joe Shmoe government official who sees a bit of data and say's "boys I think we might just have us a drug problem here"!!!! Big Ole Boy government at it's best. :X Stay out of my house and my body and let me and my Dr. make the decisions that are best for my treatment and me.
 
K1nGp1N said:
this is tru, fentanyl can be dangerous, but when it comes to abuse, its pretty rare, its extremely hard to get on the streets were i live, and heroin is verry popular in certain areas nearby, god dammit wut is the FDA/DEA doing??? im SURE much more people die from heroin than fentanyl, only because of its popularity though, here its 15 bucks a bag for heroin, and 30 bucks for an oxy 40??? thats practically .80 a mg for a pill for something not as NEARLY strong as something u can get for half the price that'll whack u outta ur mind 2 times more? thats just crazy, and yes i do know wut im talking about many people i know switched to H because of teh high oxy street prices, unless they stole it from their fuckin grandma pfft :p anyways just watch and see as 10,000 people a year OD heroin and cocaine goes up to 15,000, or more just from the heroin...
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as someone whose first experience with opiates or opiods was heroin, I don't quite understood why people are willing to pay such high prices for street pharms. the prices you state are about the same as the prices in my area, both for oxy40s and heroin. I would like to point out that the majority of heroin related ods are due to what the drug is cut with. there was a scare several years ago involving accidental overdoses due to h being cut with....fentanyl. I cannot stress enough the basic rules of drug use. know your substance. know your source. know yourself. know yourself meaning specifically in this case to know your tolerance.
I know plenty of people who are still in high school who use on an AT LEAST weekly basis, and to me that shows that heroin is not decreasing in popularity, it is doing the opposite, however under the carpet it might be at this time.
heroin is usually cut with cheaper substances, and not psychoactive ones at that. laxatives (heroin has a rather constipating side effect)and sugar are some of the most common things heroin is cut with. the thing that concerns me about this law(other than the legit pain sufferers) is creating additional uninformed or inadequately informed users. With use expanding to younger people, quality and purity increasing, societal stress rising, and demand rising i would suggest that the number of people who accidentally od by making the most common mistake might go up; that mistake being assumption of tolerance, i.e a 5 bag a day tolerance level user who withdraws and then starts using as if he still has a 5 bag a day tolerance. but, I would hope, that a person who uses 5 bags a day is aware of this mistake and wouldn't let it happen to him. basically, this law would endanger legit pain sufferers who choose to use heroin to get relief, as they are more likely to be ill informed simply b.c they aren't likely to have had as much experience with the street drug world as someone who chooses to use h after being around using friends. then again, this person may be more likely to thoroughly research dosing before starting use. all in all, it doesn't do anyone any good, and while it may not change much for lifestyle drug users, it certainly ends up a massive amount of annoyance and red tape and paper work, as well as providing more 'reasons' to lock up legit docs, all of which falls on the legit pain patients and the doctors.
so.....the law would not harm the 'scum' recreational users, it would actually harm innocent pain sufferers and educated, legitimate but realistic doctors.
sound like a law written in the good old usa :P
 
dankstersauce said:
^^^not yet. just wait. ;) I never thought heroin was available in my area then I realized it very available and quite popular. actually i think illicit drug manufacturers need to think of some new opiate (or at least a new twist on an old opiate) to officially steal big pharm's customers. Like heroin tablets (to make the switch from OC to heroin less of a big deal) or heroin lollypops or maybe smoke able fentynol "tar
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oral heroin isn't really a good idea....most people don't like the idea of eating their money.
you'd need about 50-70mgs to get high even starting from no tolerance. not to mention you lose the rush.
i actually found an archive from this site while googling for the exact doses.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-34637.html

Luckily, I'm in an area where heroin is pretty easily accessible, snow white, so pure u can snort an eighth of a cap and nod off.
:D :D
oh, and the big pharms beat you to the lollipop idea only they use fentanyl instead of heroin.
http://www.opioids.com/fentanyl/perc-a-pop.html
 
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Question: Why don't they make patches with other drugs in them, i.e. oxycodone, morphine, or hydrocodone?
 
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