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swole30

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I am a bodybuilder and for any of you that know what cytomel is --- > I am taking cytomel for about 4 weeks only but when I tried to roll, it didn't seem to hit near as hard... Does anyone know of cytomel and possible effects on your roll...


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A search of ED doesnt turn up anything for cytomel. Someone here may be able to help you or possibly the steroids area of BL may find someone who can help.


ether, I have added a link for hydroxycut threads in the Directory under hydroxycut.
 
my recommondation to u is this..........

learn what the chemical does...not just burns fat,REALLY know what it does!
Most fat burners do not alter brain chemistry intentionally but it does speed up your metabolism so on that note u may either be

1) speed up meto could have an effect on your brains seratonin
2) i have read that u want to not pee for an hour because the pill needs a chance to get into your system. so maybe your juiced meto could be making u not able to process the pill!!

Please learn exactly what u r doin to your body with the workout shit and go from there!!
 
What is going on with BL these days??

Pullstring that's a lot of bullshit in one post.

"speed up meto could have an effect on your brains seratonin" Ick.

First of all, it's serotonin. "fat burners" are usually CNS stimulants of some kind, ephedrine for example. These increase metabolism and overall arousal levels, burning more calories thus burning fat in the long run. CNS stimulants raise blood pressure levels, heartrate, etc. etc.

So mixing it with MDMA, another stimulant, is certainly not a good idea. Anyway, if you're relatively young and fit, this should not be an issue. Many pills contain different stimulants in them already. Cytomel, is a thyroid gland stimulant, causing artificial hiperthyroidism thus raising metabolic rate by a lot. I don't really know how this particular compound is metabolized, or by what enzymes, so I wouldn't be sure about how it would affect the breaking down of MDMA in your body.

about the peeing comment: Bullshit, anything that is in your bladder has been already metabolized and if some % of MDMA is still present (usually MDA, one of its metabolites) will not be absorbed by retaining urination.
 
ok fuji u need to read things before u go off being an assclown

i said that the speed up meto could have an effect on seritonin...COULD!!never said it would and that was actually reason that i was suggesting that he learn what the damned drug did to him COMPLETLY!! just tryin to give him a direction to go on!!

Second...fine maybe i miss read my peeing thing ok! but i still stand firm that u had no right to attack me on subject 1!!
 
Fujicrow- said:
First of all, it's serotonin. "fat burners" are usually CNS stimulants of some kind, ephedrine for example. These increase metabolism and overall arousal levels, burning more calories thus burning fat in the long run. CNS stimulants raise blood pressure levels, heartrate, etc. etc.

um..yeah....since it messes with the CNS i say there is a chance maybe it does release a little serotonin
 
pullstring said:
um..yeah....since it messes with the CNS i say there is a chance maybe it does release a little serotonin
Fortunately our nervous systems are much more complicated than that. Thermogenic fat burners don't act on serotonergic systems. Some prescription appetite suppressants may inhibit serotonin, but not the fat burners sold commerically.

Cytomel (T3) stimulates metabolism very strongly and if you're taking it at the doses recommended in bodybuilding circles (rather than by directions of your physician) there is absolutely no way you should combine it with any stimulant, MDMA included. T3 puts a lot of strain on your heart and causes tachycardia (fast heart rate) and hypertension (high blood pressure) as it is; you run a decent risk of hospitalising yourself if you go out and rave on it.

Don't do it. I'd advise stopping T3 at least a few days before taking any other drug. MDMA is a pretty decent stimulant & thermogenic anyway, and along with the appetite suppression I think you'd likely burn plenty of fat on its own. Protein shakes to minimise catabolism (muscle loss). Don't take T3 for a few days after MDMA either; let your cardiovascular system recover.

Ephedrine/clenbuterol are much safer fat burners than T3, so unless you compete I wouldn't be putting your safety at risk.
 
Fujicrow- said:
about the peeing comment: Bullshit, anything that is in your bladder has been already metabolized and if some % of MDMA is still present (usually MDA, one of its metabolites) will not be absorbed by retaining urination.
Very true; no-one should be recommending holding their urine when taking MDMA (see hyponatremia/water intoxification), and doing so will not get you higher. However, a huge percentage of MDMA is excreted unchanged from the body (I've seen figures approaching a third of what was ingested), so if you want to get higher you should be thinking about drinking your whizz, not holding it.
 
lol...i wont drink my whizz thank you...that pee thing was a misread then maybe....so sorry

HalcyoN- that was a much better argument than "bullshit" and u actually hit what i was sayin!! U told me what the drug does to your system and now there is knowledge on how it would act (or in this case not act) on seritonin!
That was all i wanted to know was how it acted together,I was only theorizing seritonin release with my knowledge i have on human anatomy,but never said it was set in stone and recommended learning the chemicals body reactions!!

Thank you again *insert smiley face
 
Pullstring: please (a) stop theorizing about issues unless you have some actual knowledge one way or the other - saying "x could affect y" and then turning around and saying "I didn't say it would, I said it could" doesn't help anyone; (b) stop insulting long-term and respected posters.
 
cytomel is a synthetic thyroid chemical isnt it?
I can see how that would make you more alert, and possibly help somewhat in burning fat, but isn't it mostly used for people with no thyroid gland, or an underactive one.

There are links between MDMA overdose and thyroid problems, please combine these two carefully or use one or the other just for safety.
 
I appreciate all help and such... Been off and now will be ready for next time! Thanks Again
 
Hydroxycut should not be a problem with MDMA if it's ephedra free. Ephedra raises your heart rate and blood pressure, MDMA does the same, even if it's slightly...combining the two stimulants it's not a very good idea. I dont think it would kill you if u r a healthy individual but why play with two stimulants that r raising blood pressure.
Now, hydroxycut ephedra free should not be a problem. It just has ingredients to supress appetite, like Garcinia which comes from a plant. It also contains l-carnitine which plays a roll in fat metabolizing and that's is not a problem combined with MDMA. It also contains ALA which is an antioxidant, so no problems there. So the only thing that would stand out is the Garcinia, but if u r not having a problem with it by itself, it's not gonna do anything when combined with MDMA . And in my opinion, hydroxycut ephedra free sucks. The only ingredient that i see there that plays the best roll in weight management is l-carnitine which u can buy by itself by a much cheaper price.
 
well i do use hydroxy now....iused the old ephedra also....i actually think that this one seems to work better and when i used the old ephedra one i was actually in the marine corps!

but thats irrelavent....thanks for da input
 
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